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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @jay_s_uk Wiring2.jpg Wiring1.jpg

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @droftarts
      Hi.

      another event.
      it is certainly looks like 1 driver out of 4 of X axis lost his microsteping definition.
      [M350 Lost for 1 of 4 X axis drivers.

      M122.txt config.g M350 Lost for 1 of 4 X axis drivers.mp4

      attached is a video nd config + M122 output.

      please advice.
      this happen with multiple FW version (3.3 + 3.4.5 + 3.5.2)
      this happen with drivers from the duet/duex

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Sun Jun 06 2021 20:45:39 GMT+0300 (Israel Daylight Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                            ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                            ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"FT6_7"                                    ; set printer name
      
      ; Network
      M552 S1                                        ; enable network
      M586 P0 S1                                     ; enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                                     ; disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                                     ; disable Telnet
      
      M584 X3:4:5:6 Y0 Z8:7 E1:2
      
      M671 X-220:740 Y175:175 S15 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S0                               ; Drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1                               ; Drive 1 goes backwards
      M569 P2 S1                               ; Drive 2 goes backwards
      M569 P3 S1                               ; Drive 3 goes forwards
      M569 P4 S0                               ; Drive 4 goes backwards
      M569 P5 S0                               ; Drive 5 goes forwards
      M569 P6 S1                               ; Drive 6 goes forwards
      M569 P7 S0                               ; Drive 7 goes forwards
      M569 P8 S0                               ; Drive 8 goes forwards
      M569 P9 S0                               ; Drive 9 goes forwards
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                  ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z1440 E400        ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X900 Y900 Z24 E1200.00              ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z720 E7200.00  ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z500.00 E10000.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1600.00 Y1200.00 Z1600.00 E750.00 I30; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                  ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; switch motor
      M950 P0 C"spi.cs1"
      M950 P1 C"spi.cs2" 
      M950 P2 C"spi.cs3"
      
      
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                               ; set axis minima
      M208 X750 Y350 Z750 S0                         ; set axis maxima
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
      M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
      M574 Z1 S2                                      ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
      
      ;M591 D0 P3 C"e0_stop" S1 R70:130 L24.8 E1000 ; Duet3D rotating magnet sensor for extruder drive 0 is connected to E0 endstop input, enabled, sensitivity 24.8mm.rev, 70% to 130% tolerance, ;3mm detection length
      M591 D0 ; display filament sensor parameters for extruder drive 0
      ;M591 P3 C"e0_stop" S1 D3 L3 E4                          ; filament monitor connected to E0_stop
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" H5 F500:50 T6000             ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X-10 Y25 Z0                       ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X15:700 Y30:320 p20:14                      ; define mesh grid
      M376 H50
      
      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092     ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                              ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0                                            ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0                                            ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S150                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                               ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C
      M308 S2 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
      M950 H2 C"e0heat" T2                               ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
      M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H2 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 275C
      M308 S3 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin duex.e2temp
      M950 H3 C"e0heat" T3                               ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e2heat and map it to sensor 3
      M307 H3 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H3 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 3 to 275C
      M308 S4 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 4 as thermistor on pin duex.e2temp
      M950 H4 C"e0heat" T4                               ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e2heat and map it to sensor 4
      M307 H4 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H4 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 4 to 275C
      M308 S5 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 5 as thermistor on pin duex.e2temp
      M950 H5 C"e0heat" T5                               ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e2heat and map it to sensor 5
      M307 H5 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H5 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 5 to 275C
      
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                           ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H-1                                 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                           ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                              ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0:1 H1 F0                                  ; define tool 0
      M567 P0 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P1 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 1
      M567 P1 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P2 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 2
      M567 P2 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P3 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 3
      M567 P3 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P4 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 4
      M567 P4 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P5 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 5
      M567 P5 E1.0:1.0
      
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 1 axis offsets
      G10 P2 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 2 axis offsets
      G10 P3 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 3 axis offsets
      G10 P4 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 4 axis offsets
      G10 P5 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 5 axis offsets
      
      G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P1 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P2 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P3 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P4 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P5 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      
      ; Custom settings are not defined
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M575 P1 S1 B57600                              ; enable support for PanelDue
      M501                                                            ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000"              ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
      
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @maor3degem-co-il @Maestro
      I double checked it and
      the motor doesn't move 1/16 cycles than the other
      both motors are define in the same axis so it is impossible to define different micro stepping for each motor. and when I typed M584 the machine return 1:16 micro stepping for those X axis drivers/motors

      Regards
      Maor

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @Maestro
      I double checked it and
      the motor doesn't move 1/16 cycles than the other
      both motors are define in the same axis so it is impossible to define different micro stepping for each motor. and when I typed M584 the machine return 1:16 micro stepping for those X axis drivers/motors

      Regards
      Maor

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @droftarts
      The driver error is due to the carriage fall cut the wire.

      by the way, the machine is on pause right now and I can see the problem of the motors. if I will restart the machine the problem will go a way till next time.

      and before restart the is no evidence of changing in the configuration

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @maor3degem-co-il
      we have 15 machine that look pretty much the same.
      we used them for 4 years without any problem like this,
      this start happen in the last 4 months...

      can heavy dust cause this?

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @droftarts Hi
      thanks for your help,
      in the second, the Z motor also turning different length , the same symptom as with the X axis. and the Z connected to the main board...

      in addition we face this problem with a few machines we have (5) and it is occur also in the main boards drivers.

      please advice what else can help us to solve this problems

      Regards
      Maor

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @Maestro
      I alsothought this could be,
      but. this 2 motor define as the same axis. so cannot be done.
      and also I check the m350 and it remain OK as define in the config

      020205e4-82aa-4812-b485-0e63c39a489a-image.png

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @jay_s_uk
      Here is again, 3 pairs of motor are out of sync.
      config.g M122.txt Pic.jpg Vid.mp4

      this is with the latest FW version 3.5.2

      please advise

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @jay_s_uk
      thanks
      will do so and keep you posted

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @jay_s_uk config (1).g

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      @jay_s_uk
      Board: Duet 2 WiFi (2WiFi)
      Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.3 (2021-06-15)
      Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.26

      we did define 4/2 Z motor, depending on a specific machine
      M584 X3 Y1:2 Z5:7:8:9 E4:0

      posted in General Discussion
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    • Out of Sync for sync motors (same Axis)

      Dir all,

      recently we face a wired problem.
      we have 20 3d printer which has parallel x motor and parallel Z motor.
      after a while the printer is working suddenly random motor out of sync which case him to move shorter distance in compare to the sync one.
      attached is a photo and a video.
      after I restart the machine the problem goes a way till the next random occasion
      this happen randomly in 5 3d printer from 20.

      Pic:
      OutOFSyncZ (seperate Drivers).jpg

      Video:
      OutOFSyncZ (seperate Drivers).mp4

      Config:
      config.g

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3.3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Wed Mar 02 2022 19:03:35 GMT+0200 (Israel Standard Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      ;M575 P1 S1 B57600                                                       ; enable support for PanelDue
      G90                                                                     ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                                                     ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Trifolium"                            ; Set machine name
      
      ;M950 P3 C"exp.heater3" Q500          ;braks
      
      
      M42 P3 S1
      ; Network
      M552 S1                                  ; Enable network
      M586 P0 S1                               ; Enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                               ; Enable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                               ; Enable Telnet
      
      M587 S"Degem" P"Password123"
      
      M584 X3 Y1:2 Z5:7:8:9 E4:0
      
      M671 X-200:1300:1300:-200 Y-200:-200:1300:1300 S1000 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S1                               ; Drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S0                               ; Drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1                               ; Drive 2 goes forwards
      M569 P3 S1                               ; Drive 3 goes backwards
      M569 P4 S1                               ; Drive 4 goes backwards
      M569 P5 S1                               ; Drive 5 goes backwards
      M569 P6 S1                               ; Drive 6 goes backwards
      M569 P7 S1                               ; Drive 6 goes backwards
      M569 P8 S1                               ; Drive 6 goes backwards
      M569 P9 S1                               ; Drive 6 goes backwards
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1    			     ; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X97 Y97.00 Z640.00 E400.00        ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z24.00 E1200.00     ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X24000.00 Y24000.00 Z1440.00 E7200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E10000.00     ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1800.00 Y1800.00 Z1800.00 E750.00 I30; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                  ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; switch motor
      M950 P0 C"spi.cs1"
      M950 P1 C"spi.cs2" 
      M950 P2 C"spi.cs3"
      
      
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                               ; set axis minima
      M208 X1100 Y1070 Z1135 S0                         ; set axis maxima
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
      M574 Y2 S1 P"!ystop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
      M574 Z1 S2                                      ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
      
      ;M591 D0 P3 C"e0_stop" S1 R70:130 L24.8 E1000 ; Duet3D rotating magnet sensor for extruder drive 0 is connected to E0 endstop input, enabled, sensitivity 24.8mm.rev, 70% to 130% tolerance, ;3mm detection length
      M591 D0 ; display filament sensor parameters for extruder drive 0
      ;M591 P3 C"e0_stop" S1 D3 L3 E4                          ; filament monitor connected to E0_stop
      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" H5 F500 T6000             ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X33 Y5 Z0.8                         ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X50:1050 Y50:1050 p20:20                      ; define mesh grid
      M376 H50
      
      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092     ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                              ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0                                            ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0                                            ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S150                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8    ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                               ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C
      M308 S2 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
      M950 H2 C"e0heat" T2                               ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
      M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H2 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 275C
      M308 S3 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin duex.e2temp
      M950 H3 C"e0heat" T3                               ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e2heat and map it to sensor 3
      M307 H3 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H3 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 3 to 275C
      M308 S4 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8    ; configure sensor 4 as thermistor on pin duex.e2temp
      M950 H4 C"e0heat" T4                               ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e2heat and map it to sensor 4
      M307 H4 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H4 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 4 to 275C
      M308 S5 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4580 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 5 as thermistor on pin duex.e2temp
      M950 H5 C"e0heat" T5                               ; create nozzle heater output on duex.e2heat and map it to sensor 5
      M307 H5 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H5 S400                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 5 to 275C
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                           ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H-1                                 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                           ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                              ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0:1 H1 F0                                  ; define tool 0
      M567 P0 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P1 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 1
      M567 P1 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P2 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 2
      M567 P2 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P3 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 3
      M567 P3 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P4 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 4
      M567 P4 E1.0:1.0
      
      M563 P5 D0:1 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 5
      M567 P5 E1.0:1.0
      
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 1 axis offsets
      G10 P2 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 2 axis offsets
      G10 P3 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 3 axis offsets
      G10 P4 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 4 axis offsets
      G10 P5 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 5 axis offsets
      
      G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P1 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P2 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P3 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 3 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P4 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 4 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      G10 P5 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 5 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Custom settings are not defined
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M575 P1 S1 B57600                              ; enable support for PanelDue
      M501                                                            ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000"              ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
      
      M17
      M42 P3 S0
      

      regards
      Maor

      posted in General Discussion
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