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    • Noisy motors when idle

      My motors are fairly noisy when idle. The noise stops when I do M18. It's not noisy at all when moving.

      These are the motors: https://e3d-online.com/motors-high-torque-motor
      Datasheet: https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/Document/122/.pdf

      The machine is a delta printer running on 24V. Only the axis steppers (no extruder) and endstops are plugged in at the moment.

      I have tried this (from https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Reducing_Stand-Still_Noise) :

      M569 Fx P0
      M569 Fx P1
      M569 Fx P2
      

      where x ranges from 1 to 15. F1 to F12 sounds like a loud noisy fan, F12 being the least noisy. Higher F-values produce a high-pitched sound.
      I've also tried M906 I0 hoping that it will shut off the motor when idle but that didn't help. The I-value doesn't seem to have much effect on volume.
      M569 C65968 P0 gives an error probably because I am on RFF >= 2.02; is there a F-value equivalent?

      Config attached below. Geometry setup is still a work-in-progress.
      Movement is extremely slow because of initial setup, but that shouldn't cause loud idle noise right?
      Is it supposed to be so noisy when idle? It's unusable as-is because the noise is loud enough to be a distraction.

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Tue Jan 01 2019 23:33:12 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                      ; Send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                      ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M555 PNaN                                ; Set firmware compatibility to look like 
      
      ;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
      M665 R105.6 L360.24 B85 H250             ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
      M666 X0 Y0 Z0                            ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
      
      ; Network
      M550 Pfoo                                ; Set machine name
      M551 Pxxx                                ; Set password
      M552 S1                                  ; Enable network
      ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
      M586 P0 S1                               ; Enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                               ; Disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                               ; Disable Telnet
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S1                               ; Drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1                               ; Drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1                               ; Drive 2 goes forwards
      M569 P3 S1                               ; Drive 3 goes forwards
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                  ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X160 Y160 Z160 E90.525               ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200             ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200          ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000             ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30          ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                  ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 Z0 S1                               ; Set minimum Z
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1                         ; Set active high endstops
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P5 R0.5 H5 F120 T6000               ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5                      ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 R85 S20                             ; Define mesh grid
      
      ; Heaters
      M140 H-1                                 ; Disable heated bed
      M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
      M143 H1 S240                             ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 240C
      
      ; Fans
      M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1                 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
      M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1                            ; Define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                          ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                             ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
      
      ; Custom settings are not configured
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M501                                     ; Load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      
      posted in Duet Hardware and wiring
      pytundefined
      pyt

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    • RE: Noisy motors when idle

      @dc42 The spreadcycle optimization documentation recommends enabling random off time (M569 P0 D1) or chopSync (not supported?), should I do that? Is stealthChop an option too? This is on Duet 2 Wifi.

      It looks like there are several parameters that affect idle noise: TOFF, HSTRT, HEND, HDEC, RNDTF, CHM, TBL. I made a macro that goes through all possible permutations. Something like:

      G91 ; relative positioning
      M906 I100 ; disable idle-current reduction
      
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:0" ; Print message
      M569 P2 F1 Y0:0:0 ; Set register
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:0 END" ; Print message
      
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:1" ; Print message
      M569 P2 F1 Y0:0:1 ; Set register
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:1 END" ; Print message
      
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:2" ; Print message
      M569 P2 F1 Y0:0:2 ; Set register
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:2 END" ; Print message
      
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:3" ; Print message
      M569 P2 F1 Y0:0:3 ; Set register
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      G1 S2 Z-0.1 ; Move Z a little bit
      G4 P1000 ; Wait 1000ms
      M117 P"F1 Y0:0:3 END" ; Print message
      
      and so on...
      

      First I will find the best TOFF, then the best HSTRT/HEND/HDEC value, then the best RNDTF/CHM/TBL. Moving on to the next stage if the previous doesn't work.

      It would look like this: M569 P0 F12 Y3:3:0 D1 B2 ; X, TOFF 12, HSTRT 3, HEND 3, HDEC 16, CHM rndtf, TBL 36 in the worst case scenario.

      This is assuming that the following stage is dependent on the previous stage (i.e. HSTRT/HEND/HDEC is dependent on TOFF and I don't have to find TOFF again). Does this make sense?

      posted in Duet Hardware and wiring
      pytundefined
      pyt
    • Noisy motors when idle

      My motors are fairly noisy when idle. The noise stops when I do M18. It's not noisy at all when moving.

      These are the motors: https://e3d-online.com/motors-high-torque-motor
      Datasheet: https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/Document/122/.pdf

      The machine is a delta printer running on 24V. Only the axis steppers (no extruder) and endstops are plugged in at the moment.

      I have tried this (from https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Reducing_Stand-Still_Noise) :

      M569 Fx P0
      M569 Fx P1
      M569 Fx P2
      

      where x ranges from 1 to 15. F1 to F12 sounds like a loud noisy fan, F12 being the least noisy. Higher F-values produce a high-pitched sound.
      I've also tried M906 I0 hoping that it will shut off the motor when idle but that didn't help. The I-value doesn't seem to have much effect on volume.
      M569 C65968 P0 gives an error probably because I am on RFF >= 2.02; is there a F-value equivalent?

      Config attached below. Geometry setup is still a work-in-progress.
      Movement is extremely slow because of initial setup, but that shouldn't cause loud idle noise right?
      Is it supposed to be so noisy when idle? It's unusable as-is because the noise is loud enough to be a distraction.

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Tue Jan 01 2019 23:33:12 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                      ; Send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                      ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M555 PNaN                                ; Set firmware compatibility to look like 
      
      ;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
      M665 R105.6 L360.24 B85 H250             ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
      M666 X0 Y0 Z0                            ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
      
      ; Network
      M550 Pfoo                                ; Set machine name
      M551 Pxxx                                ; Set password
      M552 S1                                  ; Enable network
      ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
      M586 P0 S1                               ; Enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                               ; Disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                               ; Disable Telnet
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S1                               ; Drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1                               ; Drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1                               ; Drive 2 goes forwards
      M569 P3 S1                               ; Drive 3 goes forwards
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                  ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X160 Y160 Z160 E90.525               ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200             ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200          ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000             ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30          ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                  ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 Z0 S1                               ; Set minimum Z
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1                         ; Set active high endstops
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P5 R0.5 H5 F120 T6000               ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5                      ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 R85 S20                             ; Define mesh grid
      
      ; Heaters
      M140 H-1                                 ; Disable heated bed
      M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
      M143 H1 S240                             ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 240C
      
      ; Fans
      M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1                 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
      M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1                            ; Define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                          ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                             ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
      
      ; Custom settings are not configured
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M501                                     ; Load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      
      posted in Duet Hardware and wiring
      pytundefined
      pyt
    • RE: Smart effector: 24v heater & 12v heatsink fan

      Thank you for the quick response!

      posted in Smart effector for delta printers
      pytundefined
      pyt
    • Smart effector: 24v heater & 12v heatsink fan

      My main VIN on duet is 24v. I have 12v power going into V_FAN (middle pin) of V_FAN JUMPER SELECT, the other 2 remaining (left & right pins) are not connected to anything.

      Wiring setup (INPUT 1):
      (smart effector <- >duet)
      H+ (24v) <-> E0 VIN
      H- <-> E0-
      HF+ (12v) <-> Always On Fans V_FAN
      HF- <-> Always On Fans GND
      PF- <-> No print fan yet
      PF+ <-> No print fan yet
      Also, place a jumper on On for 12V on underside of smart effector

      Is it ok to mix 12v and 24v on the smart effector? Am I missing anything?

      I will eventually switch to all fans to VIN (24v) or 5v for consistency. This is just to get things running first.

      Related references:
      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/5831/working-with-24v-but-having-a-noctua-as-heatsink-fan-in-12v
      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/4005/12v-fans-again

      posted in Smart effector for delta printers
      pytundefined
      pyt