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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      try the console and see any reported error message.

      ie. put in G0 Z295

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      • Bipotronicundefined
        Bipotronic
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        I put in the G-code "G0 Z295" in the console and nothing hapend. No error Messages only "G0 Z295" cloered in Green.

        Also weired, if i send "G1 X20 Y20 F2000" the X-axis and Y-axis move, but if they are positioned the Z-axis moves also.

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti @Bipotronic
          last edited by

          @philipp-r said in Core XY weired behavior of the Z-Axis and Endstop config:

          , but if they are positioned the Z-axis moves also.

          what do you mean by positioned?

          your M92 has Z650.00. this is a unusual number.
          what lead screw do you have?

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          • Scachiundefined
            Scachi
            last edited by

            Where is your M584 drive mapping line ?
            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M584_Set_drive_mapping

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              the M584 is not required if the default mapping is used.

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              • Scachiundefined
                Scachi @Veti
                last edited by

                @veti said in Core XY weired behavior of the Z-Axis and Endstop config:

                the M584 is not required if the default mapping is used.

                Ah, thank you for this information 👍

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                • Bipotronicundefined
                  Bipotronic
                  last edited by

                  I use a precision Ballscrew with a 5mm pitch without a gear.

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                  • Bipotronicundefined
                    Bipotronic @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @veti i ment, when i send the G-code "G1 X20 Y20 F2000" the X and Y-axis move to the position X20 Y20... after they reached this position the Z-axis will also begin to move without any commend used.

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti @Bipotronic
                      last edited by

                      @philipp-r

                      that is very strange behavior. in which direction does it move? how far does it move?
                      do you have a config-overwrite file?

                      how many motors does your z axis have. how are they connected to the duet?

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @Bipotronic
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                        @philipp-r said in Core XY weired behavior of the Z-Axis and Endstop config:

                        I put in the G-code "G0 Z295" in the console and nothing hapend. No error Messages only "G0 Z295" cloered in Green.

                        Also weired, if i send "G1 X20 Y20 F2000" the X-axis and Y-axis move, but if they are positioned the Z-axis moves also.

                        The lack of Z axis movement can be explained by the fact that you have set the maximum limit to 0 and the minimum limit to 300.

                        "M208 X425 Y343 Z0 S0 ; Set axis maxima
                        M208 X0 Y0 Z300 S1 ; Set axis minima"

                        Change that to be:

                        M208 X425 Y343 Z300 S0 ; Set axis maxima
                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima

                        You have defined the Z axis end stop to be at the high end (Z max)

                        M574 X1 Y1 Z2 S0

                        Is that intentional? Do you really have that end stop at Z max?

                        Ian
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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
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                          @deckingman said in Core XY weired behavior of the Z-Axis and Endstop config:

                          The lack of Z axis movement can be explained by the fact that you have set the maximum limit to 0 and the minimum limit to 300.

                          good catch. but why would that cause z movement after x and y movement?

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                          • deckingmanundefined
                            deckingman @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @veti said in Core XY weired behavior of the Z-Axis and Endstop config:

                            @deckingman said in Core XY weired behavior of the Z-Axis and Endstop config:

                            The lack of Z axis movement can be explained by the fact that you have set the maximum limit to 0 and the minimum limit to 300.

                            good catch. but why would that cause z movement after x and y movement?

                            I didn't say it would - I was very careful in my choice of words ☺

                            I suspect that Z movement may be something else, but the OP should at least put the axis limits right first.

                            Ian
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                            • Bipotronicundefined
                              Bipotronic @deckingman
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                              @deckingman thanks for your answer.

                              Your right i changed it and the lack is gone.

                              Yes i did thet intentionaly, because the endstop is at the lowest position the bed can reach. Related to the printhead this is the max Position. I also chose the right hand rule for thze coordinate frame.

                              I want to tell the machine if the Z-axis hits the endstop, it is position 300mm. But however i change the M208 command i did not get the right position.
                              When i home the Z-axis and type in 300mm into the Machine setting/Headposition at the left corner at the Web interface, the machine behaves like i want it to.
                              Does anybody know if i can save this kind of input or which M-command i should use to get the same Result.

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                              • Bipotronicundefined
                                Bipotronic @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @veti

                                • list itemit will move downwards until it hits the endstop again.

                                • no i don't have an config-overwrite file

                                • i use only one motor and its puged in at the Z-axis spot on the duet2ethernet

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  i would suggest you start without the z max for now and try and get the machine working.

                                  use the probe for now to determine z=0.

                                  determining z=0 from a z max endstop is not that easy.

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by dc42

                                    Do you have the direction of your Z motor correct? If the bed moves in the Z direction (not the print head), then increasing Z should move the bed down. The Z coordinate is the distance between the print head reference point and the bed.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      0_1563819506187_e5c637cd-7710-416e-93d6-eefb576f0824-image.png dbot axis.png

                                      Does this make more sense?

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                                      • Bipotronicundefined
                                        Bipotronic @dc42
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42 yes when i increase the Z value the bed moves down. I checked the direction of all axis they are correct.

                                        is there a change that there is something wrong with the board?

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                                        • Bipotronicundefined
                                          Bipotronic @Phaedrux
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                                          @phaedrux said in Core XY weired behavior of the Z-Axis and Endstop config:

                                          0_1563819506187_e5c637cd-7710-416e-93d6-eefb576f0824-image.png dbot axis.png

                                          Does this make more sense?

                                          Thank you for the picture. This is exactly like i set up the Z-axis.

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                                          • oliofundefined
                                            oliof
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                                            I want to tell the machine if the Z-axis hits the endstop, it is position 300mm.

                                            So if you have M208 Z0:300 (or the moral equivalent), if you run G1 Z350 H1, what happens?

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