I want to downgrade the WebUI back!!!

jens55 · 12 Dec 2019, 00:53

@Phaedrux, in my case I just prefer the nice clean layout that I am used to.
Ideally, rather than a 'revert' option that only shows up if you are running the new interface and that needs to be reselected on every boot-up, I would like to see a simple selection box in 'Settings - User interface' that allows me to choose one way or another and maybe even allow custom (plugin) interfaces in the future if that becomes feasible.
The current way of saying 'this is what you get unless you change every time you start' is a rather poor way of going (dare I say Microsoft-ish)

fcwilt · 12 Dec 2019, 00:56

@jens55

I found that once I selected the "revert" option it stuck.

But that might be a setting on my browser that remembered the new URL.

Frederick

jens55 · 12 Dec 2019, 01:00

I still think a one time setting is not appropriate. The user should be able to switch back and forth easily. Who knows, maybe I want to dip my toes into the water, find it a bit cold and leave and maybe come back later to get in up to my ankles ... and so on ....

fcwilt · 12 Dec 2019, 02:34

@jens55 said in I want to downgrade the WebUI back!!!:

I still think a one time setting is not appropriate. The user should be able to switch back and forth easily. Who knows, maybe I want to dip my toes into the water, find it a bit cold and leave and maybe come back later to get in up to my ankles ... and so on ....

You can switch back anytime you want by using the original URL.

You can, if you wish, create two desktop shortcuts, one with each URL.

Frederick

jens55 · 12 Dec 2019, 03:31

I got that .... but it is not intuitive. It should be a configuration option.
I have said my peace and there it is ... nothing more to add.

Stealthy_TT · 12 Dec 2019, 07:14

I think its alright. one thing I dislike is having to log in after my machine sleeps. Old version would usually leave me logged in unless I rebooted.

zapta · 12 Dec 2019, 07:32

Old version also had a Connect button that reconnected very fast. With the new one, the best option I found so far is reloading the page which takes significant time.

Also, renaming the Printing state to Processing is counter intuitive and inconsistent with PanelDue.

It's usable so subjectively seems to be more tedious.

dc42 · 12 Dec 2019, 08:42

For clarification: DWC2 uses different filenames and some different folders compared to DWC1, so that both can coexist on the same SD card. When you try to load the web interface having entered just the IP address in your browser, recent versions of RRF look first for file index.html (optionally with a .gz on the end). That is what the DWC2 root page file is called. If that isn't found, it looks for reprap.htm (again, optionally with a .gz on the end). That is what the DWC1 root page file is called.

So you can always get DWC 1 by putting /reprap.htm at the end of the IP address in your browser.

If you want DWC1 to be the default, but still have DWC2 available then I think you could achieve that (but I haven't tested it) by renaming the file index.html to (e.g.) dwc2.html. Then put /dwc2.html after the IP address in your browser when you want to load DWC2.

zapta · 12 Dec 2019, 18:06

Does DWC2 supersede DWC1 or will DWC1 be maintained just the same? (bug fixes, new features, etc).

Some software upgrades provide a clear value while others keep you wondering why did they do it?

T3P3Tony · 12 Dec 2019, 18:10

@zapta DWC 1 is very unlikely to receive any new features. The architecture behind DWC 2 is much more extendable and in the future configurable (potentially in the long run you could even make it look like DWC 1 if you wanted to.

A Former User · 12 Dec 2019, 18:13

@zapta said in I want to downgrade the WebUI back!!!:

Some software upgrades provide a clear value while others keep you wondering why did they do it?

indeed https://m.xkcd.com/2224/

Veti · 12 Dec 2019, 19:34

users are resistant to change. no matter how good or bad.

the beauty of open source it that you can contribute.
like the dwc. fork it and add new features together with other users that prefer the dwc1
or submit patches to the dwc2 to make it configurable in such a way that you like it.

zapta · 12 Dec 2019, 22:35

@Veti said in I want to downgrade the WebUI back!!!:

users are resistant to change. no matter how good or bad.

A counter example: the line before an Apple store before the launch of iPhone N+1.

Veti · 13 Dec 2019, 06:05

@zapta said in I want to downgrade the WebUI back!!!:

A counter example: the line before an Apple store before the launch of iPhone N+1.

they are beeing forced. apple just keeps releasing new firmware, that make the old phones unsuable.

themelle · 13 Dec 2019, 06:59

@Veti said in I want to downgrade the WebUI back!!!:

@zapta said in I want to downgrade the WebUI back!!!:

A counter example: the line before an Apple store before the launch of iPhone N+1.

they are beeing forced. apple just keeps releasing new firmware, that make the old phones unsuable.

On the other hand you have to admit that they are quite untiring in releasing crippling firmwares for their hardware, even for the older ones