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    • Fickertundefined
      Fickert
      last edited by

      @Sniffle:

      ok, so for Probe type 4 which is a switched probe the endstop(black/white wires) need to be plugged into the E0 endstop. Also to simplify wiring you can plug the 5v and ground into pins 1 and 2 of the expansion header. the bltouch doesnt care where it gets power and ground from but it simplifies wiring some.

      to quote the Gcode wiki for M558

      @http://reprap.org/wiki/G-code#M558:_Set_Z_probe_type:

      A Z probe may be a switch, an IR proximity sensor, or some other device. This selects which to use.

      P0 indicates that no Z probe is present. P1 gives an unmodulated IR probe, or any other probe type that emulates an unmodulated IR probe (probe output is an analog signal that rises with decreasing nozzle height above the bed).

      If there is a control signal to the probe, it is driven high when the probe type is P1.

      P2 specifies a modulated IR probe, where the modulation is commanded directly by the main board firmware using the control signal to the probe.

      P3 selects an alternative Z probe by driving the control signal to the probe low.

      P4 selects a switch for bed probing (on the Duet, this must be connected to the E0 endstop pins).

      P5 (from RepRapFirmware 1.14) selects a switch (normally closed) for bed probing between In and Gnd pins of the Z-probe connector (Duet 0.8.5 and Duet WiFi).

      P6 is as P4 but the switch is connected to and alternative connector (on the Duet series, the E1 endstop connector).

      currently though you seem to not be getting signal to the bltouch, doublecheck your connections, and try to isolate the signal wire for the bltouch away from the other wires in the wire bundle, especially the motor wires. you could be getting intereferance from an outside source.

      Oh okay thank you for the clarification on the E0 pins not the probe pins.

      I guess i am still confused as the pin will not react to pwm signals. This exact setup worked on my previous mks board so I have confidence there is no wire interference as the gantry hasn't even been moved since then. I will look again though and see if I see anything with it.

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      • Sniffleundefined
        Sniffle
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        David, I tried to go make a few changes to the wiki to update the info you had ??'s at, but have been blocked. If for some reason i am not unblocked I'll just make a post here to clarify the info.

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        • Fickertundefined
          Fickert
          last edited by

          @3dprinting:

          is it possible to test the bltouch without connecting to the power supply?
          I mean, if I plug in usb, I can use web control, but is it enough power to activate servos and all that jazz?
          I think It would work, but not sure. My boadr's sitting on the table and I'd rather get bltouch up and running before I disassemble my printer because my current z probe is not compatible.

          Supplying external 12v to the board shouldn't be difficult. An external psu or even just long wires from your psu in the printer. More importantly this thing is awesome (Duet Wifi) for that fact you don't really ever have to plug into it again.

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          • Fickertundefined
            Fickert
            last edited by

            @Sniffle:

            David, I tried to go make a few changes to the wiki to update the info you had ??'s at, but have been blocked. If for some reason i am not unblocked I'll just make a post here to clarify the info.

            Not sure if you or David updated the Wiki but shouldn't the retract pin macro file be "M280 P3 S90 I1" ?

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            • Fickertundefined
              Fickert
              last edited by

              @3dprinting:

              @Fickert:

              @3dprinting:

              is it possible to test the bltouch without connecting to the power supply?
              I mean, if I plug in usb, I can use web control, but is it enough power to activate servos and all that jazz?
              I think It would work, but not sure. My boadr's sitting on the table and I'd rather get bltouch up and running before I disassemble my printer because my current z probe is not compatible.

              Supplying external 12v to the board shouldn't be difficult. An external psu or even just long wires from your psu in the printer. More importantly this thing is awesome (Duet Wifi) for that fact you don't really ever have to plug into it again.

              Yea, but I was hoping to cheat a little because my printer has a metal cabinet base I have to flip the printer over to access power, all my connectors need to be replaced to connect to the wifi, and I have an incompatible z probe right now,so when I set up the BLtouch, i gotta test it before installing the board, it's a lot of work to roll it back to 8 bit, especially since nobody within 40 miles of me sells 240k resistors, and the new bltouch doesn't come with one.

              But I'm 1 day in on the upgrade, and I alotted myself 3, so I'm not doing bad right now.

              Ahh I see. Got extra wires to run temporarily to the duet from your psu? Only gotta flip it once then ๐Ÿ™‚

              Also the new bltouch doesn't need a 240ohm resistor. you just cut the jumper on the chip that says 3.3v logic.

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              • Sniffleundefined
                Sniffle
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                @Fickert:

                @Sniffle:

                David, I tried to go make a few changes to the wiki to update the info you had ??'s at, but have been blocked. If for some reason i am not unblocked I'll just make a post here to clarify the info.

                Not sure if you or David updated the Wiki but shouldn't the retract pin macro file be "M280 P3 S90 I1" ?

                I regained access to the wiki, and updated some of the info, I need to go back through and edit some more but it's more accurate now.

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                • 3dprinting meatheadundefined
                  3dprinting meathead
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                  @Sniffle:

                  @Fickert:

                  @Sniffle:

                  David, I tried to go make a few changes to the wiki to update the info you had ??'s at, but have been blocked. If for some reason i am not unblocked I'll just make a post here to clarify the info.

                  Not sure if you or David updated the Wiki but shouldn't the retract pin macro file be "M280 P3 S90 I1" ?

                  I regained access to the wiki, and updated some of the info, I need to go back through and edit some more but it's more accurate now.

                  I have the new bltouch right here in my hand, and the color code for the probe output is
                  black= ground
                  white= signal out

                  not sure if it's the right way to word it, I'd call it z+ and z-, but that might confuse with minimum and maximum heights, but I think you get the idea for the purpose of updating the wiki

                  If I can learn it, than anyone can learn it.

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                  • Sniffleundefined
                    Sniffle
                    last edited by

                    @3dprinting:

                    @Sniffle:

                    @Fickert:

                    @Sniffle:

                    David, I tried to go make a few changes to the wiki to update the info you had ??'s at, but have been blocked. If for some reason i am not unblocked I'll just make a post here to clarify the info.

                    Not sure if you or David updated the Wiki but shouldn't the retract pin macro file be "M280 P3 S90 I1" ?

                    I regained access to the wiki, and updated some of the info, I need to go back through and edit some more but it's more accurate now.

                    I have the new bltouch right here in my hand, and the color code for the probe output is
                    black= ground
                    white= signal out

                    not sure if it's the right way to word it, I'd call it z+ and z-, but that might confuse with minimum and maximum heights, but I think you get the idea for the purpose of updating the wiki

                    I have 3 of them, my plan is to rewrite that section to have the 3 pin and the 2 pin separate

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                    • Fickertundefined
                      Fickert
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                      Okay so wonderful news, I can now deploy ad retract the pin! ๐Ÿ™‚

                      But checking endstops with m119, it shows I have a z stop at its min, when I do not even have one installed. I will have to double check my config for one. Using p5 and the probe pins I do not have to have a z end stop do I? Seems to be a bit more of an annoyance imo.

                      Also with the pin up or down the m119 also stated the probe was not stopped. Shouldn't it be stopped when retracted?

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        If your M558 command specifies that the Z probe is used for homing, then when the probe is triggered, M119 should show both probe triggered and Z at min stop.

                        What the probe shows when retracted will depend on what the probe outputs. Deployable probes are usually designed to show that they are triggered when retracted, for safety.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • Fickertundefined
                          Fickert
                          last edited by

                          So I guess what exactly should my m558 command be exactly? It was "M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F120 T2000"

                          Is this correct still?

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                          • 3dprinting meatheadundefined
                            3dprinting meathead
                            last edited by

                            Ok, so I have the probe mounted, and it deplys, retracts, and when I run the self test macro, it goes up and down endlessly like a blinker. Here's a video I made of it.
                            https://youtu.be/uu1BUnxgQMs
                            Is this how it's supposed to work? Am I missing an important step on how to see if the z probe is reading triggered in real time?
                            I don't know an easier way to do this, so here's my configuration.g, in it's entirety.
                            ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
                            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Feb 18 2017 23:41:13 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                            ; General preferences
                            M111 S0 ; Debugging off
                            G21 ; Work in millimetres
                            G90 ; Send absolute coordinatesโ€ฆ
                            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                            M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
                            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                            M208 X200 Y200 Z260 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                            ; Endstops
                            M574 X1 Y1 Z0 S0 ; Define active low and unused microswitches
                            M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F120 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
                            G31 P25 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

                            ; Drives
                            M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
                            M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
                            M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                            M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
                            M92 X100 Y100 Z4000 E98 ; Set steps per mm
                            M566 X600 Y600 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                            M203 X6000 Y6000 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                            M201 X500 Y20 Z250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                            M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1000 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                            M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                            ; Heaters
                            M143 S275 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 275C
                            M301 H0 S1.00 P10 I0.1 D200 T0.4 W180 B30 ; Use PID on bed heater (may require further tuning)
                            M305 P0 T100000 B3988 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                            M305 P1 T100000 B-6788 C3.166739e-6 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

                            ; Tools
                            M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                            ; Network
                            M550 PDMSDP5 ; Set machine name
                            M551
                            M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                            ; Fans
                            M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                            M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                            ; Custom settings are not configured
                            M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
                            ; Miscellaneous
                            T0 ; Select first tool

                            thanks for the help!
                            edit:shouldnt post my password, I'll change it now. Yea, I'm a meathead

                            If I can learn it, than anyone can learn it.

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                            • Sniffleundefined
                              Sniffle
                              last edited by

                              post the Macro,
                              If you are using M280 P3 S120 I1 that's what it does it cycles continually until M280 P3 S160 I1 to reset the probe to it's normal operating procedure this is a built in bltouch feature and not part of reprap firmware.

                              see my post on page 2 or 4 for testing the probing of a single point.

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                              • Fickertundefined
                                Fickert
                                last edited by

                                I finally got my bltouch to be usable as a probe and endstop for the z axis. Wohooo! Thanks so much guys!

                                I gotta ask too, I currently have the homing sequence to only probe once, unlike the normal endstop procedure (quickly enable endstop, back off and engage again slowly) procedure. What Homing code did you use to replicate this? Or are you using a simple one ouch method like I described?

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                                • 3dprinting meatheadundefined
                                  3dprinting meathead
                                  last edited by

                                  @Sniffle:

                                  post the Macro,
                                  If you are using M280 P3 S120 I1 that's what it does it cycles continually until M280 P3 S160 I1 to reset the probe to it's normal operating procedure this is a built in bltouch feature and not part of reprap firmware.

                                  see my post on page 2 or 4 for testing the probing of a single point.

                                  Ok, I'm up and running! probe is working great! Now gotts tune my bed, the map looks like utah, align my z axies, set z offset and enjoy

                                  Thank you and everyone else who had the patience to deal with my meathead questions! There's no way I could have figured this out on my own.

                                  If I can learn it, than anyone can learn it.

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                                  • Miasmictruthundefined
                                    Miasmictruth
                                    last edited by

                                    After much struggle I finally was able to get the touch to work. For some reason using M558 P5 did not work for me the Z probe would always sit a 1000, so I ended up using M558 P4 and it works like a charm. Do I have an old version of the probe or something maybe?


                                    ;Z Probe Setup in Config.g
                                    M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ;reserve pin 21 for servo use
                                    M558 P4 X0 Y0 Z1 H6 F450 T4000
                                    G31 X-17 Y7 Z2.3 P25 ; Set the probe height and threshold; increase Z to decrease bed probe distance X11.0 Y0.5


                                    ; Deploy Probe (having I1 at the end it did not work)
                                    M280 P3 S10


                                    ;Home Z
                                    T0 ; select first hot end
                                    G91 ; Relative coordinates
                                    G1 Z5 F200 ; Lower bed to avoid hotend dragging in bed.
                                    G90 ; Absoulte coordinates
                                    G1 X35 Y15 F3000 ; Go to first bed probe point and home the Z axis
                                    M401
                                    G30 ; Calibrate Z-axis
                                    M402
                                    G1 Z1 F200 ; Raise bed to 1mm.


                                    ;Mesh Level
                                    ;Setup
                                    T0 ; select first hot end
                                    G91 ; Relative coordinates

                                    ;Home X and Y
                                    G1 Z4 F720 ; Lower bed to avoid hotend dragging in bed.
                                    G1 X-350 Y-240 F3000 S1 ; move up to 240mm in the -X and -Y directions until the homing switches are triggered
                                    G1 X6 Y6 F600 ; move slowly 6mm in +X and +Y directions
                                    G1 X-10 Y-10 S1 ; move up to 10mm in the -X and -Y directions until the homing switches are triggered

                                    ;Home Z
                                    G90 ; Absoulte coordinates
                                    G1 X35 Y15 Z6 F3000 ; Go to first bed probe point and home the Z axis
                                    M401 ; Deploy Probe
                                    G30 ; Home Z-axis

                                    ;Preform Mesh level
                                    M557 X10:290 Y10:190 S20 ; Bed level from X30Y12 to X299Y188 in 20mm increments

                                    G29 S0 ; Auto Bed Level and create report (If I retacted probe first bad things happend)
                                    M374 ; Save calibration grid
                                    M402 ; Retract Probe

                                    G1 X70 Y200 F3000 ; Dock after bedlevel. Move first in front of docking notch
                                    G1 X70 Y235 F3000 ; Dock after bedlevel


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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
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                                      With P4 in your M558 command, you need to connect the sensor output to the E0 endstop connector. With P5 you connect it to the IN pin on the ZProbe connector. I added a wiring table at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#BLTouch last week and updated it today, using what little information I was able to find about BLTouch on the web.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • Miasmictruthundefined
                                        Miasmictruth
                                        last edited by

                                        Oooh dang, I wasted so much time, I mixed it up I guess with reading to put it on E0 and using P5, I read through this forum 3 or so times trying to get all the information scattered around and still screwed it up ๐Ÿ˜•

                                        I am working on a more complete walk-through integrating the Duet with the BigBox, I plan on a section detailing the BLTouch as well.

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                                        • FrankNPrinterundefined
                                          FrankNPrinter
                                          last edited by

                                          @claustro:

                                          Are this connections right?
                                          Can someone make a step by step description of the firmware modifications required?
                                          http://i68.tinypic.com/rle5g1.jpg

                                          these are not quite right. black and white leads should go to other port and not panel due connector. reverse pins accordingly

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                                          • FrankNPrinterundefined
                                            FrankNPrinter
                                            last edited by

                                            Duet Wifi BL touch is not working. It blinks red and shows z probe = 1000. i cant get probe to deploy manually either. Am i missing something or is it just plain wrong? pretty sure it is wired right.
                                            config.g = ; BLTouch
                                            M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
                                            M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H3 F200 T5000

                                            Bed.g = ; bed.g
                                            ; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32
                                            ; Clear any bed transform
                                            M561
                                            ; Home all axes
                                            G28
                                            ; Probe the bed at 5 points
                                            G30 P0 X15 Y15 H0 Z-99999
                                            G30 P1 X15 Y268 H0 Z-99999
                                            G30 P2 X255 Y268 H0 Z-99999
                                            G30 P3 X255 Y15 H0 Z-99999
                                            G30 P4 X128 Y138 H0 Z-99999 S

                                            Deployprobe.g

                                            M280 P3 S10 I1

                                            #Retractprobe.g
                                            M280 P3 S90 I1

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