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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @Tobs94
      last edited by A Former User

      @Tobs94 said in Broke Usb / Duet Wifi no connection:

      @bearer i have no PanelDue

      you don't need the actual PanelDue just a 3.3v ttl serial adapter.

      Wifi settings are stored in the wifi module, so if you had it set up with m587 before you went traveling then they're still there and if m552 s1 doesn't work then something might be a bit borked?

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      • Danalundefined
        Danal
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        If someone near you has a hot air rework station, they can fix that port. Maybe.

        I successfully fixed a micro usb, just like that one, on a Pi Touch Screen board a few days ago. Also had been torn off by the cable when moving the board.

        Anyway, if you know someone, have them take a look.

        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User @Tobs94
          last edited by A Former User

          @Tobs94 said in Broke Usb / Duet Wifi no connection:

          there is a Jst port above the usb.
          Will it be possible to solder there ?

          no, the jtag port does not have the usb signals.

          can you maybe show me a photo where i have to solder the wires. on the 5 little ares or where ?

          "yes" normally on the 5 pads, but as some of the pads are missing so to recommend where to solder we would need a clear picture of the area.

          (or using a usb to 3.3v ttl adapter like the ubiquitous ftdi cable and plug it to the PanelDue port)

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          by the looks of it you could solder to the side closest to the usb connector on R3 and R2 just be quick about it so you don't detach the resistor (they have very little mass and can heat up the whole thing enough to come loose even if you just solder on one side). Then ground and 5v you can find "anywhere". looks like the 5v pad on the usb connector is okay, but ground and d+ is missing. (if the board has Vin you don't need 5v/Vbus)

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            Tobs94
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            • Tobs94undefined
              Tobs94
              last edited by Tobs94

              Yes I have powerd the board by 24v power supply. So I just have to solder the wires green and white too r2 and r3 ?
              Should be right ?

              @bearer

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User
                last edited by A Former User

                you'll need a ground refrence as well but yeah.

                white lead to R2 and green lead to R3
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                For future refrence, shows optional pads to solder Red/VBUS to and Black/GND.
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                • Danalundefined
                  Danal
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                  If pin 1 is ripped up, this is an alternative ground.

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                  Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                  • Danalundefined
                    Danal
                    last edited by

                    Or any other ground, on a fan or io or whatever.

                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @Danal
                      last edited by dc42

                      @Danal said in Broke Usb / Duet Wifi no connection:

                      If pin 1 is ripped up, this is an alternative ground.

                      Those pads are not suitable, because they are connected to ground through a capacitor. A ground on an endstop connector would be suitable.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • zaptaundefined
                        zapta
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                        Good USB connectors are secured to the PCB with through-hole solder. This makes the mechanical connection much stronger. Otherwise they peel easily, often with pads.

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @zapta
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                          @zapta said in Broke Usb / Duet Wifi no connection:

                          Good USB connectors are secured to the PCB with through-hole solder. This makes the mechanical connection much stronger. Otherwise they peel easily, often with pads.

                          Yes, just like the ones on the Duet 2 Wifi/Ethernet/Maestro and Duet 3!

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User
                            last edited by A Former User

                            Is there a reason not to use the GND pads on the components surrounding the USB connector? The screenshot I posted show three GND pads next to the missing USB connector

                            (Pin 1 is 5v, and probably easier to solder to D1 than the remaining pads for the average tinkerer?)

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                            • Danalundefined
                              Danal
                              last edited by

                              Those nearby would all be fine.

                              Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                              • Tobs94undefined
                                Tobs94
                                last edited by

                                fixed it with wiring on.

                                But now my Modul still not running without Usb.

                                https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/14247/wifi-module-not-starting-on-boot/6

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                                • Danalundefined
                                  Danal
                                  last edited by

                                  Follow from step 6:

                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/1.)+Getting+Connected+to+your+Duet/7

                                  Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                  • zaptaundefined
                                    zapta @droftarts
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                                    @droftarts said in Broke Usb / Duet Wifi no connection:

                                    Yes, just like the ones on the Duet 2 Wifi/Ethernet/Maestro and Duet 3!

                                    Very good. Not visible in the PCB screenshot above.

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                                    • droftartsundefined
                                      droftarts administrators @zapta
                                      last edited by droftarts

                                      @zapta The lesson was learnt a long time ago with the Duet 0.6, where the USB port was surface mounted. I repaired a lot of them at RepRapPro, when possible. I think David redesigned the 0.85 with through hole. Don't know why the PCB picture isn't showing the via, but looks like the silkscreen or solder mask layers are covering it.

                                      Just got a camera phone macro lens so thought I'd try it out:
                                      Duet 2 WiFi USB top.jpg
                                      Duet 2 WiFi USB bottom.jpg

                                      Ian

                                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                      • A Former User?
                                        A Former User @droftarts
                                        last edited by A Former User

                                        @droftarts said in Broke Usb / Duet Wifi no connection:

                                        Don't know why the PCB picture isn't showing the via

                                        Most of the layers were hidden to make it easier to see the relevant pads to solder the USB wires to. The shield pads were not a concern in that respect.

                                        The full four layer board is quite busy it seems, and it could well be kicad placed the silkscreen on top or that the copper layer is simply a solid pad when shown without holes; but again the objective for the picture was just to show alternative locations to solder wires

                                        (Edit, it does seem the pad are shown with rectangular cutouts, rendered with the same colour as the other round hole to the right of the usb connector. Thin yellow outline and filled with the same colour as the silkscreen)

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                                        • Stoutundefined
                                          Stout @A Former User
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                                          @A Former User said in Broke Usb / Duet Wifi no connection:

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                                          Is #4 on the PCB not used? I'm asking because my micro USB broke when I moved the printer with the cable inserted. When desoldered the port I found out that I am missing the pad on number 4 completely.

                                          If it so that it's not in use then I guess I'm lucky. Otherwise, where do 4 go?

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                                          • chrishammundefined
                                            chrishamm administrators @Stout
                                            last edited by chrishamm

                                            @stout That pad is indeed unused and not needed. It's only rarely used by some USB devices.

                                            Duet software engineer

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