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    • BlueDustundefined
      BlueDust
      last edited by BlueDust

      I feel like there is something I am missing to actually enable the feature during a print.
      This doesn't do anything.

      M915 X Y S-64 F0 H0 R3

      Do I have to put the M915 in the config.g file, or can I run a script to enable it like I do with all of the homing config files? I ask because I am just sending the M915 command to the printer while testing this out. It is not in the config.g file. I feel like if it is in there, it will be overridden after I home the printer and become irrelevant. SO if I am just implementing this command in the wrong place, that is why it is not working.

      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        I'm guess H0 isinvalid and it's using the default instead. Try H50? Possibly the same with F0? I don't have the wiki open on my phone ATM.

        I don't think there is anything wrong with sending it whenever you want. Nothing really needs to be in config.g.

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        • BlueDustundefined
          BlueDust @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @Phaedrux
          I am just more confused now...
          I have tried H50 already. I just went to the extreme with 0. I already use F0 for sensorless homing. It should just make it more sensitive at sharp movements and F1 should be used during normal printing.
          I am just trying to get it to work during a print and just trip once so I have some proof this feature works. It currently doesn't make any sense to me why it works for homing and I can't get it to work during a print. I must have some other setting enabled/disabled that is affecting it.

          Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Is this on I duet wifi? Or maestro?

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            • BlueDustundefined
              BlueDust @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux

              Duet2 Ethernet

              Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                12v or 24v?

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                • BlueDustundefined
                  BlueDust @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux
                  24v

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                  • BlueDustundefined
                    BlueDust
                    last edited by

                    I don't know if this is actually relevant, but I also read that this Stall Guard may need some fine tuning pointing to this formula sheet.
                    I filled it out best to my understanding, but do not know how to use it.

                    a2c76831-9e37-4081-8920-7d255b8d89f0-image.png

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Do you have a link to that sheet?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Have you tried getting it to detect a stall on a pure diagonal move to isolate just a single motor?

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                        • BlueDustundefined
                          BlueDust @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux
                          There is a link on the Sensorless homing wiki page that takes you to another page to talk about motors. This site has a link to download the calculation sheet I shared the screen shot of.

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors

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                          • BlueDustundefined
                            BlueDust @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux
                            I just printed a large print with long movements and held the belts still.

                            I can try printing a large calibration cube and see what happens.
                            Thanks.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @BlueDust
                              last edited by

                              @BlueDust said in Stall Guard:

                              M915 X Y S-10 F0 H200 R3

                              With S-10 I would expect the motor to register stalled nearly all the time. You can check by sending M122 during a print and looking at the driver status.

                              On my delta I have M915 set to warn about motor stalls. Using the same M915 settings as when I test sensorless homing on that machine, I get occasional (false) warnings. So I know that it is working at least some of the time.

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                              • BlueDustundefined
                                BlueDust @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42
                                I have been having a lot of trouble with the nozzle getting stuck in the print, and breaking different Z probes and why I want to fix this feature. I am having a lot of Z probe issues again caused by the crashes and not able to bed level. I will run m122 after I can print again.
                                Thanks

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by dc42

                                  I have this on my list to look at, but I need to get firmware 3.01-RC3 released first. Please remind me again on Monday, assuming 3.01-RC3 is released by then.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • BlueDustundefined
                                    BlueDust
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42 said in Stall Guard:

                                    M122

                                    As I do use stall guard for homing, I wanted to compare both before and after I enabled it for printing...

                                    This is before I enabled stall guard (printing)

                                    M122
                                    === Diagnostics ===
                                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05 running on Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later + DueX5
                                    Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3S0-7JTDL-3SN6N-TS6VG
                                    Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (24 max)
                                    === RTOS ===
                                    Static ram: 25712
                                    Dynamic ram: 93836 of which 0 recycled
                                    Exception stack ram used: 656
                                    Never used ram: 10868
                                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,1300) IDLE(ready,160)
                                    Owned mutexes:
                                    === Platform ===
                                    Last reset 70:56:51 ago, cause: software
                                    Last software reset at 2020-02-28 21:23, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11240 bytes (slot 2)
                                    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                    Error status: c
                                    Free file entries: 8
                                    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                    SD card longest block write time: 17.0ms, max retries 1
                                    MCU temperature: min 33.7, current 36.2, max 39.4
                                    Supply voltage: min 23.5, current 23.8, max 24.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                    Driver 0: ok, SG min/max 0/201
                                    Driver 1: ok, SG min/max 0/205
                                    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 3: ok, SG min/max 0/1023
                                    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                    Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                    Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                    Date/time: 2020-03-02 20:20:51
                                    Cache data hit count 4294967295
                                    Slowest loop: 261.76ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                                    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                    === Move ===
                                    Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 157, MinFreeDm: 132, MaxWait: 21532997ms
                                    Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                    === DDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves: 189, completed moves: 165, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                                    === Heat ===
                                    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                    Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
                                    Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.3
                                    === GCodes ===
                                    Segments left: 1
                                    Stack records: 3 allocated, 0 in use
                                    Movement lock held by null
                                    http is idle in state(s) 0
                                    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                    file is doing "G1 X170.351 Y213.116 E12.2842" in state(s) 0
                                    serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                    aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                    queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Code queue is empty.
                                    === Network ===
                                    Slowest loop: 372.96ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                                    Interface state 5, link 100Mbps full duplex
                                    === Filament sensors ===
                                    Extruder 0: pos 280.55, errs: frame 164 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 5 ovdue 0
                                    

                                    This is just what I had used to enable it this time...

                                    M915 X Y S3 F1 H100 R3
                                    

                                    Same print as above Diagnostic text. I just ran the M915 command mentioned above, printer rehomed itself, and I copied the M122 Diagnostic text.

                                    M122
                                    === Diagnostics ===
                                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05 running on Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later + DueX5
                                    Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3S0-7JTDL-3SN6N-TS6VG
                                    Used output buffers: 1 of 24 (24 max)
                                    === RTOS ===
                                    Static ram: 25712
                                    Dynamic ram: 93836 of which 0 recycled
                                    Exception stack ram used: 656
                                    Never used ram: 10868
                                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,1300) IDLE(ready,160)
                                    Owned mutexes:
                                    === Platform ===
                                    Last reset 71:04:28 ago, cause: software
                                    Last software reset at 2020-02-28 21:23, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11240 bytes (slot 2)
                                    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                    Error status: c
                                    Free file entries: 8
                                    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                    SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                    MCU temperature: min 38.3, current 38.9, max 39.2
                                    Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 24.1, max 24.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                    Driver 0: ok, SG min/max 79/192
                                    Driver 1: ok, SG min/max 80/184
                                    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 3: ok, SG min/max 0/1023
                                    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Date/time: 2020-03-02 20:28:27
                                    Cache data hit count 4294967295
                                    Slowest loop: 3.33ms; fastest: 0.09ms
                                    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                    === Move ===
                                    Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 142, MinFreeDm: 128, MaxWait: 0ms
                                    Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                    === DDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves: 4941, completed moves: 4905, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                                    === Heat ===
                                    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                    Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
                                    Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.3
                                    === GCodes ===
                                    Segments left: 1
                                    Stack records: 3 allocated, 0 in use
                                    Movement lock held by null
                                    http is idle in state(s) 0
                                    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                    file is doing "G1 X208.678 Y124.970 E0.4618" in state(s) 0
                                    serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                    aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                    queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Code queue is empty.
                                    === Network ===
                                    Slowest loop: 6.89ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                                    Interface state 5, link 100Mbps full duplex
                                    === Filament sensors ===
                                    Extruder 0: pos 280.20, errs: frame 164 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 5 ovdue 0
                                    

                                    Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                    • BlueDustundefined
                                      BlueDust @dc42
                                      last edited by BlueDust

                                      @dc42
                                      I know I am a little late with this... Reminder. 🙂
                                      As always, Thank you for your help!

                                      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @BlueDust
                                        last edited by

                                        @BlueDust, have you tried RRF3 yet? That's where development is now focused.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • BlueDustundefined
                                          BlueDust @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42
                                          No. I wanted to wait until there was an official release and not just an RC. Also after I got this working... That way I didn't have to troubleshoot with new code.
                                          I may have the time to work on the conversation to RRF3 next weekend... I will follow up again after I upgrade the software and try this again.

                                          Thanks.

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