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    • BlueDustundefined
      BlueDust @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux
      24v

      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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      • BlueDustundefined
        BlueDust
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        I don't know if this is actually relevant, but I also read that this Stall Guard may need some fine tuning pointing to this formula sheet.
        I filled it out best to my understanding, but do not know how to use it.

        a2c76831-9e37-4081-8920-7d255b8d89f0-image.png

        Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          Do you have a link to that sheet?

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            Have you tried getting it to detect a stall on a pure diagonal move to isolate just a single motor?

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • BlueDustundefined
              BlueDust @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux
              There is a link on the Sensorless homing wiki page that takes you to another page to talk about motors. This site has a link to download the calculation sheet I shared the screen shot of.

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors

              Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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              • BlueDustundefined
                BlueDust @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux
                I just printed a large print with long movements and held the belts still.

                I can try printing a large calibration cube and see what happens.
                Thanks.

                Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @BlueDust
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                  @BlueDust said in Stall Guard:

                  M915 X Y S-10 F0 H200 R3

                  With S-10 I would expect the motor to register stalled nearly all the time. You can check by sending M122 during a print and looking at the driver status.

                  On my delta I have M915 set to warn about motor stalls. Using the same M915 settings as when I test sensorless homing on that machine, I get occasional (false) warnings. So I know that it is working at least some of the time.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  • BlueDustundefined
                    BlueDust @dc42
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                    @dc42
                    I have been having a lot of trouble with the nozzle getting stuck in the print, and breaking different Z probes and why I want to fix this feature. I am having a lot of Z probe issues again caused by the crashes and not able to bed level. I will run m122 after I can print again.
                    Thanks

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      last edited by dc42

                      I have this on my list to look at, but I need to get firmware 3.01-RC3 released first. Please remind me again on Monday, assuming 3.01-RC3 is released by then.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • BlueDustundefined
                        BlueDust
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                        @dc42 said in Stall Guard:

                        M122

                        As I do use stall guard for homing, I wanted to compare both before and after I enabled it for printing...

                        This is before I enabled stall guard (printing)

                        M122
                        === Diagnostics ===
                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05 running on Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later + DueX5
                        Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3S0-7JTDL-3SN6N-TS6VG
                        Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (24 max)
                        === RTOS ===
                        Static ram: 25712
                        Dynamic ram: 93836 of which 0 recycled
                        Exception stack ram used: 656
                        Never used ram: 10868
                        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,1300) IDLE(ready,160)
                        Owned mutexes:
                        === Platform ===
                        Last reset 70:56:51 ago, cause: software
                        Last software reset at 2020-02-28 21:23, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11240 bytes (slot 2)
                        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                        Error status: c
                        Free file entries: 8
                        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                        SD card longest block write time: 17.0ms, max retries 1
                        MCU temperature: min 33.7, current 36.2, max 39.4
                        Supply voltage: min 23.5, current 23.8, max 24.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                        Driver 0: ok, SG min/max 0/201
                        Driver 1: ok, SG min/max 0/205
                        Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 3: ok, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Date/time: 2020-03-02 20:20:51
                        Cache data hit count 4294967295
                        Slowest loop: 261.76ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                        I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                        === Move ===
                        Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 157, MinFreeDm: 132, MaxWait: 21532997ms
                        Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                        === DDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves: 189, completed moves: 165, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                        === Heat ===
                        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                        Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
                        Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.3
                        === GCodes ===
                        Segments left: 1
                        Stack records: 3 allocated, 0 in use
                        Movement lock held by null
                        http is idle in state(s) 0
                        telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                        file is doing "G1 X170.351 Y213.116 E12.2842" in state(s) 0
                        serial is idle in state(s) 0
                        aux is idle in state(s) 0
                        daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                        queue is idle in state(s) 0
                        autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                        Code queue is empty.
                        === Network ===
                        Slowest loop: 372.96ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                        Interface state 5, link 100Mbps full duplex
                        === Filament sensors ===
                        Extruder 0: pos 280.55, errs: frame 164 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 5 ovdue 0
                        

                        This is just what I had used to enable it this time...

                        M915 X Y S3 F1 H100 R3
                        

                        Same print as above Diagnostic text. I just ran the M915 command mentioned above, printer rehomed itself, and I copied the M122 Diagnostic text.

                        M122
                        === Diagnostics ===
                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05 running on Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later + DueX5
                        Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3S0-7JTDL-3SN6N-TS6VG
                        Used output buffers: 1 of 24 (24 max)
                        === RTOS ===
                        Static ram: 25712
                        Dynamic ram: 93836 of which 0 recycled
                        Exception stack ram used: 656
                        Never used ram: 10868
                        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,1300) IDLE(ready,160)
                        Owned mutexes:
                        === Platform ===
                        Last reset 71:04:28 ago, cause: software
                        Last software reset at 2020-02-28 21:23, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11240 bytes (slot 2)
                        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                        Error status: c
                        Free file entries: 8
                        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                        SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                        MCU temperature: min 38.3, current 38.9, max 39.2
                        Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 24.1, max 24.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                        Driver 0: ok, SG min/max 79/192
                        Driver 1: ok, SG min/max 80/184
                        Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 3: ok, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Date/time: 2020-03-02 20:28:27
                        Cache data hit count 4294967295
                        Slowest loop: 3.33ms; fastest: 0.09ms
                        I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                        === Move ===
                        Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 142, MinFreeDm: 128, MaxWait: 0ms
                        Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                        === DDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves: 4941, completed moves: 4905, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                        === Heat ===
                        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                        Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
                        Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.3
                        === GCodes ===
                        Segments left: 1
                        Stack records: 3 allocated, 0 in use
                        Movement lock held by null
                        http is idle in state(s) 0
                        telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                        file is doing "G1 X208.678 Y124.970 E0.4618" in state(s) 0
                        serial is idle in state(s) 0
                        aux is idle in state(s) 0
                        daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                        queue is idle in state(s) 0
                        autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                        Code queue is empty.
                        === Network ===
                        Slowest loop: 6.89ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                        Interface state 5, link 100Mbps full duplex
                        === Filament sensors ===
                        Extruder 0: pos 280.20, errs: frame 164 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 5 ovdue 0
                        

                        Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                        • BlueDustundefined
                          BlueDust @dc42
                          last edited by BlueDust

                          @dc42
                          I know I am a little late with this... Reminder. 🙂
                          As always, Thank you for your help!

                          Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @BlueDust
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                            @BlueDust, have you tried RRF3 yet? That's where development is now focused.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • BlueDustundefined
                              BlueDust @dc42
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                              @dc42
                              No. I wanted to wait until there was an official release and not just an RC. Also after I got this working... That way I didn't have to troubleshoot with new code.
                              I may have the time to work on the conversation to RRF3 next weekend... I will follow up again after I upgrade the software and try this again.

                              Thanks.

                              Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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