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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      rather than the csv, can you post a picture of the resulting heightmap?

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      • Carloundefined
        Carlo @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @Phaedrux

        Here we go,

        Carlo.png

        Cheers

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        • Carloundefined
          Carlo
          last edited by

          So I thought I'd throw the original board back in and test for dimensional issues or mechanical issues as suggested
          and well found nothing except it print fine in fact its better than the print I got off it previously no stringing at all granted my testing is not substantial or very scientific even but it does suggest the actual dimensional built is good enough to get an actual print and that's not stock literally did one z probe and using printed effector adapter ends for the magballs and rods from Haydn.

          first layer.jpg

          finished.jpg

          board on board action.jpg

          Any ideas ?

          Cheers

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            Please share your bed.g file.

            Have you measured the trigger height of the strain gauge sensor? It's set to -0.1mm in your config.g file, but if the bed is soft then you might need to change it to a more negative value.

            When you run auto calibration, what deviation does it report at the end?

            For best results, use this sequence:

            • Home the printer
            • Heat the printer (bed and extruder) up to operating temperature, or close to it
            • Run auto calibration (and don't re-home at the end of it)
            • Start the print without homing it again

            A well-built delta printer using the Smart Effector and a flat bed doesn't need mesh bed compensation. If you do use mesh bed compensation by loading a pre-made height map using G29 S1, do a single G30 probe at bed centre after loading the height map.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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            • Carloundefined
              Carlo @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42

              I have tried all of that
              I always pre heat
              My config is set to 0.1 when starting a test again
              Generally it returns .12 which I’ve set it to in the config on the G30 single probe
              Not set it and left it at 0.1
              I don’t home after a single probe or delta calibration
              Have tried with mesh and without
              Home ,G30 Z0 then probe
              Home probe then G30 Z0
              I’m not sure there is a way I have not tried
              I’ve slowed my FR down
              Sped it up reduced my travel speed sped it up

              The maps look right though do they as I don’t know if the are?
              I follow the guides and suggestions from the good people here
              I’ve used other config as a starting point as well configured from scratch

              Always with the same result exactly the same.
              So it is either something I am doing every single time and we are talking hundreds of time
              Or it’s a constant issue that doesn’t appear with the original controller.
              So would suggest not mechanical.

              Cheers

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                You haven't answered some of my questions:

                Have you measured the trigger height of the strain gauge sensor? it looks to me that you are starting printing too high, which suggests that your trigger height isn't set correctly.

                Please share your bed.g file.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • Carloundefined
                  Carlo
                  last edited by

                  Hi,

                  Bed.g
                  ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
                  ; 10 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 175, probe offset (0, 0)
                  G30 P0 X0.00 Y175.00 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P1 X151.55 Y87.50 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P2 X151.55 Y-87.50 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P3 X0.00 Y-175.00 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P4 X-151.55 Y-87.50 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P5 X-151.55 Y87.50 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P6 X0.00 Y87.50 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P7 X75.78 Y-43.75 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P8 X-75.78 Y-43.75 Z-99999 H0
                  G30 P9 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S6

                  I've tried a few trigger heights as per documentation initially stating higher until calibration is done
                  trigger height of the strain gauge sensor? is that not -.12 ?
                  Glass build plate as far as I know
                  I have tried it with as far as -.2 even though on the single probe indicates -0.12 although I do appear to have a pit forming at the center now.

                  Cheers

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                  • Carloundefined
                    Carlo
                    last edited by

                    So to sanuty check I rewired the Duet 2 Ethernet board and Smart Effector with silicone rated to 7A all went without issue all working as it should no errors ...well you know except still won't print a layer.

                    IMG_1304.jpg

                    IMG_1305.jpg

                    Is it possible the sensitivity is not right on the Smart Effector or has an issue?.
                    Anyone had a similar issue ?

                    Thanks C

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk
                      last edited by

                      I know there was a bug in the smart effector firmware that won't allow you to adjust the sensitivity.
                      @dc42 would need to confirm when this was fixed and whether yours will be affected.

                      I binned off my ultrabase print surface so I'm not sure whether the sensitivity needs adjusting for it.

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • Carloundefined
                        Carlo @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk
                        Ahh OK..why change your bed surface may I ask ?

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                        • Cabaretundefined
                          Cabaret
                          last edited by

                          I would prefer switching to firmware 2.05.1.

                          ..

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                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                            jay_s_uk @Carlo
                            last edited by

                            @Carlo
                            I found it would lose its ability to let plastic stick to it.

                            I now have a removable print surface and it works very well

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            • Carloundefined
                              Carlo @Cabaret
                              last edited by

                              @Cabaret
                              I have tried that particular flavor with no change.

                              Cheers

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                              • Carloundefined
                                Carlo @jay_s_uk
                                last edited by

                                @jay_s_uk
                                Ah odd never had an issue with them my ender won't let go until I hear the crackling.

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                                • Carloundefined
                                  Carlo @Carlo
                                  last edited by Carlo

                                  @Carlo
                                  OK so I tried again now I mentioned that the motion is odd and it will accelerate mid print move the below image
                                  illustrates this everywhere the print has gaps is an acceleration or travel when it should be extruding its travelling mid
                                  print.
                                  That's Odd right ?
                                  Single probe before print no mesh enabled.
                                  single probe.jpg

                                  Odd accelaration.jpg

                                  Initial layer is 40mm/s
                                  Thoughts?

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                                  • Carloundefined
                                    Carlo
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi,

                                    Is it worth doing a wipe of the firmware and start again? as I mentioned this thing doesn't know what its doing
                                    when I do a delta calibration it probes at varying speeds across the bed really fast double tap moves and does a really slow double tap then slow then randomly mixes it up also the end stops are suddenly as much as -10mm + 7mm off
                                    Or is it time to just write the board off?

                                    Cheers
                                    Carlo

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      You can upload the 2.05 zip file and it will update everything to that version. Worth a shot.

                                      Would it be possible to post a video of the behaviour you're describing?

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                                      • Carloundefined
                                        Carlo @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux

                                        I'll try that version have tried 2.0.5.1 already ...once I've updated I'll upload a video in the hope that the video I upload is of it printing.
                                        Appreciate the help.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          It looks as though it is starting the print a little high. So try setting the trigger height (G31 Z parameter) a little less negative, for example -0.05 instead of -0.12.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • Carloundefined
                                            Carlo @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phaedrux
                                            Hi,

                                            I've done the backdate to 2.0.5 as suggested and now I don't seem to have odd movement don't get me wrong it's still not printing and the endstops are way off still..but now I've noticed and this is new the smart effector light is flashing constantly while stationary ...not every second or 2 seconds but randomly all the time ,interference ?

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