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    dc42 administrators
    last edited by 6 Mar 2020, 20:00

    You haven't answered some of my questions:

    Have you measured the trigger height of the strain gauge sensor? it looks to me that you are starting printing too high, which suggests that your trigger height isn't set correctly.

    Please share your bed.g file.

    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      Carlo
      last edited by 6 Mar 2020, 20:17

      Hi,

      Bed.g
      ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
      ; 10 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 175, probe offset (0, 0)
      G30 P0 X0.00 Y175.00 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P1 X151.55 Y87.50 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P2 X151.55 Y-87.50 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P3 X0.00 Y-175.00 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P4 X-151.55 Y-87.50 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P5 X-151.55 Y87.50 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P6 X0.00 Y87.50 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P7 X75.78 Y-43.75 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P8 X-75.78 Y-43.75 Z-99999 H0
      G30 P9 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S6

      I've tried a few trigger heights as per documentation initially stating higher until calibration is done
      trigger height of the strain gauge sensor? is that not -.12 ?
      Glass build plate as far as I know
      I have tried it with as far as -.2 even though on the single probe indicates -0.12 although I do appear to have a pit forming at the center now.

      Cheers

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        Carlo
        last edited by 11 Mar 2020, 16:03

        So to sanuty check I rewired the Duet 2 Ethernet board and Smart Effector with silicone rated to 7A all went without issue all working as it should no errors ...well you know except still won't print a layer.

        IMG_1304.jpg

        IMG_1305.jpg

        Is it possible the sensitivity is not right on the Smart Effector or has an issue?.
        Anyone had a similar issue ?

        Thanks C

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          jay_s_uk
          last edited by 11 Mar 2020, 16:18

          I know there was a bug in the smart effector firmware that won't allow you to adjust the sensitivity.
          @dc42 would need to confirm when this was fixed and whether yours will be affected.

          I binned off my ultrabase print surface so I'm not sure whether the sensitivity needs adjusting for it.

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            Carlo @jay_s_uk
            last edited by 11 Mar 2020, 16:39

            @jay_s_uk
            Ahh OK..why change your bed surface may I ask ?

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              Cabaret
              last edited by 11 Mar 2020, 16:43

              I would prefer switching to firmware 2.05.1.

              ..

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                jay_s_uk @Carlo
                last edited by 11 Mar 2020, 17:03

                @Carlo
                I found it would lose its ability to let plastic stick to it.

                I now have a removable print surface and it works very well

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  Carlo @Cabaret
                  last edited by 11 Mar 2020, 17:05

                  @Cabaret
                  I have tried that particular flavor with no change.

                  Cheers

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                    Carlo @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by 11 Mar 2020, 17:08

                    @jay_s_uk
                    Ah odd never had an issue with them my ender won't let go until I hear the crackling.

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                      Carlo @Carlo
                      last edited by Carlo 3 Nov 2020, 21:09 11 Mar 2020, 21:01

                      @Carlo
                      OK so I tried again now I mentioned that the motion is odd and it will accelerate mid print move the below image
                      illustrates this everywhere the print has gaps is an acceleration or travel when it should be extruding its travelling mid
                      print.
                      That's Odd right ?
                      Single probe before print no mesh enabled.
                      single probe.jpg

                      Odd accelaration.jpg

                      Initial layer is 40mm/s
                      Thoughts?

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                        Carlo
                        last edited by 14 Mar 2020, 23:00

                        Hi,

                        Is it worth doing a wipe of the firmware and start again? as I mentioned this thing doesn't know what its doing
                        when I do a delta calibration it probes at varying speeds across the bed really fast double tap moves and does a really slow double tap then slow then randomly mixes it up also the end stops are suddenly as much as -10mm + 7mm off
                        Or is it time to just write the board off?

                        Cheers
                        Carlo

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                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 00:25

                          You can upload the 2.05 zip file and it will update everything to that version. Worth a shot.

                          Would it be possible to post a video of the behaviour you're describing?

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            Carlo @Phaedrux
                            last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 12:23

                            @Phaedrux

                            I'll try that version have tried 2.0.5.1 already ...once I've updated I'll upload a video in the hope that the video I upload is of it printing.
                            Appreciate the help.

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                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 14:07

                              It looks as though it is starting the print a little high. So try setting the trigger height (G31 Z parameter) a little less negative, for example -0.05 instead of -0.12.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                Carlo @Phaedrux
                                last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 14:08

                                @Phaedrux
                                Hi,

                                I've done the backdate to 2.0.5 as suggested and now I don't seem to have odd movement don't get me wrong it's still not printing and the endstops are way off still..but now I've noticed and this is new the smart effector light is flashing constantly while stationary ...not every second or 2 seconds but randomly all the time ,interference ?

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                                  dc42 administrators @Carlo
                                  last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 14:11

                                  @Carlo said in Another Predator:

                                  @Phaedrux
                                  Hi,

                                  I've done the backdate to 2.0.5 as suggested and now I don't seem to have odd movement don't get me wrong it's still not printing and the endstops are way off still..but now I've noticed and this is new the smart effector light is flashing constantly while stationary ...not every second or 2 seconds but randomly all the time ,interference ?

                                  That suggests either a bad connection to the 8-way connector, or interference from the fan. Does it still flash with the fans turned off?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    Carlo @dc42
                                    last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 14:13

                                    @dc42
                                    I'll try that now
                                    Thanks for your help

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                                      Carlo @dc42
                                      last edited by Carlo 15 Mar 2020, 14:23

                                      @dc42

                                      No just unplugged and it has stopped plugged back in and not flashing that must be a poor connection on the fan?
                                      I'll change it now to fair I have had this apart once or twice.

                                      Sorry I've changed my setting back to 2.0.5 could someone please have quick check of my configs as I've homed again and it's showing homed height way off but end stops fine,
                                      Also Heater 1 is missing so figure I've missed something though it works

                                      Homed.png

                                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                      ;
                                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Tue Feb 26 2019 21:31:01 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)

                                      ; General preferences
                                      G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

                                      ; Delta Settings
                                      M665 L440.470:440.470:440.470 R232.088 H420.498 B185.0 X0.237 Y-0.015 Z0.000 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                                      M666 X-0.09 Y0.10 Z-0.01 A0.00 B0.00 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

                                      ; Network
                                      M550 P"Street Predator" ; Set machine name
                                      M551 P"" ; Set password
                                      M552 P192.168.0.25 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                                      M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                      M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                                      M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                      M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                                      M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4:1.0:1.1
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E867 ; Set steps per mm
                                      M566 X3000 Y3000 Z3000 E40 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                      M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z12000.00 E446 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z9000.00 E9000.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                      ; Retraction
                                      M207 S0.4 F1200 R0.1 T1200 Z0.2 ; Firmware retraction

                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z

                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X1 Y1 Z1 U1 S1 ; active high endstop switches, XYZ U at max
                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M558 P8 R0.4 F1200 H20 T2000 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                                      G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.05 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                      M557 R135 S16 ; Define mesh grid

                                      ;Heated bed
                                      M305 P0 T100000 B3950 ; bed heater uses a B3950 thermistor ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                      M143 P0 S125 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                      ;Hotend
                                      M305 P1 S"T0" X200 R395 W2 ; configure sensor 1 as PT100 on daughter board
                                      M143 P1 S400 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 400C
                                      M307 P1 B0 S1.00

                                      ; Fans
                                      M950 F0 Cfan0 Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M950 F1 Cfan1 Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

                                      ; Custom settings are not configured
                                      M591 P3 C3 S1 ; filament monitor connected to E0_stop
                                      M404 N1.75 D0.4 ; Set for print monitor

                                      ; Miscellaneous
                                      M501 ; Load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

                                      ; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2020-03-15 13:17
                                      ; This is a system-generated file - do not edit
                                      ; Delta parameters
                                      M665 L440.470:440.470:440.470 R232.163 H421.126 B185.0 X0.095 Y0.043 Z0.000
                                      M666 X-2.720 Y-0.764 Z3.484 A0.00 B0.00
                                      ; Heater model parameters
                                      M307 H0 A113.4 C472.3 D0.6 S1.00 V23.8 B0
                                      M307 H1 A655.5 C296.8 D4.5 S1.00 V24.0 B0
                                      M307 H2 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H3 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H4 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H5 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H6 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H7 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                      G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 17:58

                                        The config files between 2.x and 3.x are not compatible. If you want to switch back to 2.x you'll have to use a backup of your config file, or if you don't have one, you might have to recreate one using the web configurator tool.

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                          Carlo @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by Carlo 15 Mar 2020, 18:21

                                          @Phaedrux
                                          I have switched the settings back all seems to be working except I get a homed error as per the picture above
                                          and the Heater 1 is missing so I can't activate or switch off via it.
                                          Actually the homed error is only if I M500 and have a config overide file if I delete that it shows what I assume is correct home height.

                                          Thanks for your help.

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