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    • taconiteundefined
      taconite
      last edited by

      Hey guys,

      I thought about a little game. Maybe I'm not the only one sitting at home under lock-down because of the elephant in the room. And maybe everyone will learn something from this aswell
      rules:
      I start posting pictures with 2 prints and asking what the difference in settings/adjustments/whatsoever is between the 2 prints. The first who gets it, can continue with posting (a) picture(s) by himself.

      Thoughts?

      1. Round:
        20200402_133058[1].jpg

      #littlethingscanmakeahugedifference20200402_133108[1].jpg

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @taconite
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        @taconite Fun! But if I get it right, I probably don't have two prints to compare... I print so little!
        I reckon your one is temperature difference. Probably left is okay, but right is too cold (or maybe too hot as it's still stringy).

        Ian

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        • jens55undefined
          jens55
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          My vote is for reduced flow resulting in under extrusion

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          • mrehorstdmdundefined
            mrehorstdmd
            last edited by

            You'll never get this (one unless you've been reading other threads...)

            alt text

            alt text

            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators @mrehorstdmd
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              @mrehorstdmd Top one designed by orangutan, bottom by a gorilla?

              Ian

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              • jens55undefined
                jens55 @mrehorstdmd
                last edited by jens55

                @mrehorstdmd said in Game time: Spot the difference:

                You'll never get this (one unless you've been reading other threads...)

                No fair, trick question as there is no printing difference.

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                • mrehorstdmdundefined
                  mrehorstdmd @jens55
                  last edited by

                  @jens55 Oh, but there is a huge printing difference...

                  https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                  • taconiteundefined
                    taconite
                    last edited by

                    so actually its non of the stated.
                    Yesterday I tried to print this model multiple times with different settings ... no changes. Over night I dried a smaller role of filament (same manufacuterer same filament) but no I get these good results ... so simply ... wet filament

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                    • JamesMundefined
                      JamesM @mrehorstdmd
                      last edited by

                      @mrehorstdmd

                      Lol...the difference is in the homing (I was reading your threads)

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                      • jens55undefined
                        jens55
                        last edited by

                        Exactly .... no difference in actual printing, only in homing.
                        Again "trick question and not fair"
                        The original question was fair though .....

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @taconite
                          last edited by

                          @taconite said in Game time: Spot the difference:

                          so simply ... wet filament

                          What material?

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          • droftartsundefined
                            droftarts administrators @taconite
                            last edited by

                            @taconite Nice one. I need to get a food dehydrator to dry out all the PLA thatโ€™s been in my loft for the last few years! Is that what you used?

                            Ian

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @droftarts
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                              @droftarts I've used a convection oven a few times. Just be careful with the temps. My oven doesn't go very low, so I heat it up and turn if off and heat it up and turn it off a few times over an hour or so. I use a remote meat thermometer to keep an eye on the temps.

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                              • jens55undefined
                                jens55
                                last edited by

                                I use a food dehydrator that controls the temperature. I also have an older one but it doesn't control temperature so I don't use it for drying filament.
                                Having said all that I find that moist filament is rare for PLA and PETG. I leave the spools on the machine when I am not printing. At least on PLA there is a situation where the filament gets extremely fragile in the section from the spool to the extruder so it's got to be treated careful or reloading is required. There is no difference in material once it's been melted. IMHO this phenomena is caused by exposure to air after getting micro fractures from un-spooling. I takes about a week of sitting before going fragile.

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                                • taconiteundefined
                                  taconite
                                  last edited by

                                  Filament was PETG. The thing is, that there is a quite high humidity in my basement. That's why I use a little pizza oven to dry my filament.
                                  20200403_124313[1].jpg

                                  And I had a problem with to high temps aswell and because of that a role of filament fused together ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @taconite
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                                    @taconite I Over heated and semi-melted a roll of PLA in a kitchen oven! Most was salvaged, but was brittle. I printed extruders out of it, but they kept breaking!

                                    Ian

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                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      is there sufficient airflow in those ovens to circulate the air out as it saturates with moisture from the filament?

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                                      • taconiteundefined
                                        taconite
                                        last edited by

                                        @bearer hard to say ... there are some holes in the top of the door but when I dry filament I need to set the timer every hour, while doing that I open the door to let moisture escape

                                        @droftarts yeah it gets very brittle. Once the filament strands were slightly melted together and I didn't notice it until the filament broke during printing.

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                                        • emmaagroundefined
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