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    • Ray11undefined
      Ray11
      last edited by

      I have been having this issue for many times now. It seemed like whenever I start a print. There are some chances that it will instantly terminate the job. Only after a few tries the job then proceed. Are there some settings that I configured incorrectly that lead to this issue?
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      After only few seconds, it automatically terminated the job without any messages and error
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      • jens55undefined
        jens55
        last edited by

        I don't know if this is related to your problem but your temperature graphs show substantial variance and that might cause a shutdown.
        Have you run tuning on heaters one and two?
        Does the shut-down coincide with the start of a cooling fan ?

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Does any message show in the gcode console?

          The temp swings could indicate a thermal shutdown.

          Firmware versions?

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          • Ray11undefined
            Ray11
            last edited by

            Nope, nothing in console either. I think it is somewhat related to the heater. I sometimes got heating fault on the bed.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Have you PID tuned the heaters?

              If you send M98 Pconfig.g in the console, do you get any error messages?

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              • Ray11undefined
                Ray11
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux
                I get 3 warnings:

                Warning: heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 365C.
                
                Warning: heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 599C.
                
                Warning: heater 2 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 599C.
                

                Also, when I switch to bang-bang mode for the bed, it throws a heater fault in a couple of seconds. Even if I use M570 S999999 to basically disable the heater fault check.
                I am using a 12v bed with an additional power supply and when I do the auto-tune, the reported voltage is the system voltage of 24v. I wonder if that is a bug or something.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Ray11
                  last edited by

                  @Ray11 said in DWC Randomly terminate print at start:

                  I am using a 12v bed with an additional power supply and when I do the auto-tune, the reported voltage is the system voltage of 24v. I wonder if that is a bug or something.

                  That's interesting. How do you have it all wired up? I wonder if the Duet is assuming you're using vin. Not sure how it would know...

                  You should be using PID tuning for all heaters. Bang-bang is rarely appropriate.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Can you also send M122 after a print has failed and post the response.

                    Also post your config.g and config-override.g please.

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                    • Ray11undefined
                      Ray11
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux
                      Thank you so much for helping me with this!
                      Here is the M122 result after print was instantly terminated:

                      M122
                      === Diagnostics ===
                      RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.01-RC5 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0
                      Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S4-6J1D6-3SD6R-KU5GF
                      Used output buffers: 2 of 40 (7 max)
                      === RTOS ===
                      Static ram: 154084
                      Dynamic ram: 161400 of which 44 recycled
                      Exception stack ram used: 216
                      Never used ram: 77472
                      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1108) ETHERNET(blocked,444) HEAT(blocked,1196) CanReceiv(suspended,3820) CanSender(suspended,1488) CanClock(blocked,1468) TMC(blocked,216) MAIN(running,4388) IDLE(ready,80)
                      Owned mutexes:
                      === Platform ===
                      Last reset 00:00:16 ago, cause: power up
                      Last software reset time unknown, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 77276 bytes (slot 1)
                      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0444a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                      Error status: 0
                      Free file entries: 10
                      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec
                      SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                      MCU temperature: min 25.8, current 27.4, max 27.5
                      Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.1, max 24.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                      12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
                      Driver 0: standstill, reads 15368, writes 16 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                      Driver 1: standstill, reads 15369, writes 16 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                      Driver 2: standstill, reads 15369, writes 16 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                      Driver 3: standstill, reads 15371, writes 15 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                      Driver 4: standstill, reads 15371, writes 15 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                      Driver 5: standstill, reads 15372, writes 15 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                      Date/time: 1970-01-01 00:00:00
                      Slowest loop: 4.12ms; fastest: 0.15ms
                      === Move ===
                      Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 375, MinFreeDm: 375, MaxWait: 0ms
                      Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                      === MainDDARing ===
                      Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
                      === AuxDDARing ===
                      Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
                      === Heat ===
                      Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                      Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                      === GCodes ===
                      Segments left: 0
                      Movement lock held by null
                      HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                      Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                      File is idle in state(s) 0
                      USB is idle in state(s) 0
                      Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                      Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                      Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                      LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                      SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                      Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                      Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                      Code queue is empty.
                      === Network ===
                      Slowest loop: 3.10ms; fastest: 0.03ms
                      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                      - Ethernet -
                      State: active
                      Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                      Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0
                      === CAN ===
                      Messages sent 65, longest wait 0ms for type 0
                      === Linux interface ===
                      State: 0, failed transfers: 0
                      Last transfer: 16683ms ago
                      RX/TX seq numbers: 0/1
                      SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
                      Number of disconnects: 0
                      Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
                      

                      And here is my config.g

                      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Wed Apr 01 2020 22:14:44 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                      
                      ; General preferences
                      G90                                             ; send absolute coordinates...
                      M83                                             ; ...but relative extruder moves
                      M550 P"INAZUMA-IDEX"                            ; set printer name
                      
                      ; Network
                      M552 P0.0.0.0 S1                                ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                      M586 P0 S1                                      ; enable HTTP
                      M586 P1 S0                                      ; disable FTP
                      M586 P2 S0                                      ; disable Telnet
                      
                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0.0 S0 D3                                   ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.1 S0 D3                                   ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.2 S0 D3                                   ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.3 S1 D3                                   ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.4 S0 D3                                   ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.5 S0 D3                                   ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                      M584 X0.0 U0.1 Y0.2 Z0.3 E0.4:0.5                    ; set drive mapping
                      M350 X16 U16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1                      ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X100.00 U100.00 Y80.00 Z1600.00 E410.00:430.00      ; set steps per mm
                      M566 X900.00 U900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X6000.00 U6000.00 Y6000.00 Z1000.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X500.00 U500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X700 U700 Y800 Z600 E800:800 I30                ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30                                         ; Set idle timeout
                      
                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 X-30 U26 Y0 Z0 S1                                ; set axis minima
                      M208 X260 U316 Y190 Z200 S0                          ; set axis maxima
                      
                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X1 S3                                      ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X 
                      M574 U1 S3
                      M574 Y1 S3                                      ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
                      M574 Z1 S2                                      ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Z
                      M915 X U Y S2 R1
                      
                      ; Z-Probe
                      M558 P1 I0 C"io3.in" H3 F2000 T6000                 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                      G31 P580 X0 Y0 Z0                            ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                      ;G31 P{sensors.probes[0].value[0] + 30} 
                      ;G31 X0 Y0 Z0
                      M557 X60:270 Y15:195 S60                        ; define mesh grid
                      
                      
                      ; Heaters
                      M570 S99999
                      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138    ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                      M950 H0 C"out0" T0                              ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                      M143 H0 S80                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00 V11.0                               ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                      M307 H0 A84.5 C473.8 D1.4 
                      M140 H0                                         ; map heated bed to heater 0
                      M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138    ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
                      M950 H1 C"out1" T1                              ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                      M143 H1 S240                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 240C
                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                      M307 H1 A574.5 C154.9 D8.5 V24.0
                      M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138    ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                      M950 H2 C"out2" T2                              ; create nozzle heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 2
                      M143 H2 S240                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 240C
                      M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                      M307 H2 A574.5 C154.9 D8.5 V24.0
                      
                      
                      ; Fans
                      M950 F0 C"out7" Q500                            ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency
                      M106 P0 L1.0 S0 H1 T60                               ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                      M950 F1 C"out8" Q500                            ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                      M106 P1 S0 H-1                                  ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M950 F2 C"out4" Q500                            ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                      M106 P2 L1.0 S0 H2 T60                               ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                      M950 F3 C"out9" Q500                            ; create fan 3 on pin out6 and set its frequency
                      M106 P3 S0 H-1                                  ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      
                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1                              ; define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0                                    ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                      M563 P1 D1 H2 X3 F0:3                              ; define tool 1
                      G10 P1 U0.25 Y-1.8 Z-0.6                                 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                      G10 P1 R0 S0                                    ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                      
                      ; Custom settings are not defined
                      T0
                      
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                      • Ray11undefined
                        Ray11
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux
                        Later, I did some experiments. It seemed like that whenever the actual bed temperature closed up with the target temperature within 0.5 degC, the print just terminate itself without any warnings.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Can you post a photo of how you have the bed wired?

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                          • Ray11undefined
                            Ray11
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux
                            Sorry for the wiring mess, I am still in the process of testing my printer.
                            What I did is I wired a 24 to 12v converter with my power supply and input the 12v into the out_0_power_in. The bed is connected to out_0.
                            79235012.jpg

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                            • SneakyTikiundefined
                              SneakyTiki
                              last edited by SneakyTiki

                              I have this exact thing happen to me all the time.

                              I haven't been able to track down exactly why it happens, but for me it seems to revolve around the .gcode file name.
                              I know for sure that certain special characters seems to mess with it (things like $, %, etc.)
                              It seems that length of the filename is a factor (shorter is better.)
                              And it seems that if you are putting files into sub-folders the problem is exacerbated.
                              I've had some files print just fine the first time (right after I upload it), but then when I go to re-print, it does this. And without changing anything, just deleting and re-uploading it will work again. This has only happened with files I've put into sub-folders. I ultimately fixed this behavior by severely shortening the name of the file.

                              I have this using DWC 1.22.6 on a Duet Maestro running firmware v2.03, and remember versions of this behavior as far back as 1.19 on a Duet 2 WiFi and Duet 2 Ethernet (when I first started using Duet boards)

                              I would try deleting the file, renaming it to something very short and simple, and uploading again.
                              Hope this helps.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @SneakyTiki
                                last edited by

                                @SneakyTiki said in DWC Randomly terminate print at start:

                                I have this using DWC 1.22.6 on a Duet Maestro running firmware v2.03, and remember versions of this behavior as far back as 1.19 on a Duet 2 WiFi and Duet 2 Ethernet (when I first started using Duet boards)

                                I'd have to go reread all the releases notes to be sure but I think some of this was resolved since then. Have you tried recently with DWC 2 and RRF 2.05?

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                                • Ray11undefined
                                  Ray11
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                                  @SneakyTiki I recently updated to DWC 2.1.0 and beside the instant termination problem, the manual extrusion also seemed not working even if I heated the hotend up already. I mean I did write some macros to get around this but I wonder if this is a problem related to printers with multiple nozzles?

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @Ray11
                                    last edited by

                                    @Ray11 I believe that was fixed with DWC 2.1.1

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                                    • SneakyTikiundefined
                                      SneakyTiki @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux said in DWC Randomly terminate print at start:

                                      Have you tried recently with DWC 2 and RRF 2.05?

                                      I have not, but thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out at some point when I can afford some down-time 🙂

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