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    joehsmash
    last edited by 5 May 2020, 17:47

    also i realized i never answered all of your questions, a m115 reveals

    FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.03 ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-06-13b2<LF>ok<LF>

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      joehsmash
      last edited by 5 May 2020, 18:13

      i just updated the firmware to

      Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet
      Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
      Firmware Version: 2.05.1 (2020-02-09b1)
      WiFi Server Version: 1.23
      Web Interface Version: 1.22.6

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        joehsmash
        last edited by 5 May 2020, 18:15

        still no change, when i manually short the ps_on with the GND beside it on the header the psu fires up like it should.

        its like theres a relay thats just not firing.

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          joehsmash
          last edited by 5 May 2020, 18:17

          also, im not sure if it matters but i havent actually set up the duet yet according to my printer. it was just straight out of the box, mounted and setting up the psu

          im going through the reprap config tool now.,

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            joehsmash @joehsmash
            last edited by 5 May 2020, 23:52

            @T3P3Tony any ideas?

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              joehsmash
              last edited by 6 May 2020, 04:00

              i am also finishing up the wiring, when ever i plug ANY end stop into the y axis it causes the DUET to crash. it reboots the minute i unplug it.

              this board is starting to annoy me its been 4 days of messing around with it to get it working with one problem after another.

              is there any actual customer support or are we just delegated to using this forum and waiting weeks for some one to possibly help us?

              i mean its not like this board was cheap... it cost me 260 bucks. i could almost get a whole other printer for that.

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                Danal
                last edited by Danal 5 Jun 2020, 06:25 6 May 2020, 06:22

                @joehsmash said in PS_ON not working?:

                ANY end stop into the y axis it causes the DUET to crash

                That is symptomatic of a physically incorrectly wired endstop. Verify:

                • I am assuming you have physical switches, and will run them "NC" or "Normally Closed".
                • For NC on a three terminal switch, attach wire to the outer two terminals; leave the middle unconnected.
                • Duet2 Wifi endstop connectors are shown below. Verify that the switch is connect to "GND" and "STOP". This is different than a lot of other printers, and connecting 3.3V and Gnd will cause exactly what you are describing

                6e6f8c35-9d8f-4adc-8e37-3989ffbce3d9-image.png

                fc1df807-7fe7-4198-acfe-8c6442a3cdee-image.png

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                  Danal @Danal
                  last edited by 6 May 2020, 06:23

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                    Danal
                    last edited by 6 May 2020, 06:24

                    Also, I STRONGLY suggest you start a new thread for each new problem. Example: "Endstop Switches not working" will get a lot more attention as a thread than a dozen posts down the "PS_ON not working" thread.

                    P.S. I have no relation to Duet the company.

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                      joehsmash @Danal
                      last edited by 6 May 2020, 07:30

                      @Danal i gotcha, i have verified the wiring and changed the switches. Nothing has changed on my printer other than the duet. I have tested every switch with my meter as well.

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                        joehsmash @joehsmash
                        last edited by joehsmash 5 Jun 2020, 07:32 6 May 2020, 07:32

                        i will try to redo the connectors tomorrow morning

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                          T3P3Tony administrators
                          last edited by 6 May 2020, 09:01

                          Hi @joehsmash thanks, looks correctly wired like this:

                          32f4d43e-9a50-4dd8-83a6-9d905b17aed8-image.png .

                          Assuming that wiring worked previously (the 5V SB goes to the correct place?) then it should work. please can you share your config.g just in case there is something odd going on that is interfering with M80/M81. Also please try the following tests:

                          1. Once started up send M98 P"/sys/config.g" to run config.g again. sometimes errors in the config file are not reported in the console during startup so this will run it again and report any errors.
                          2. send M122 and post the results here, see if they are any different before/after the M80 command

                          P.S. You can cut and paste images into your post or use the "upload image" button to attach images.

                          www.duet3d.com

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                            joehsmash @T3P3Tony
                            last edited by 6 May 2020, 21:25

                            @T3P3Tony here is my M122

                            M122
                            === Diagnostics ===
                            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                            Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
                            Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (17 max)
                            === RTOS ===
                            Static ram: 25712
                            Dynamic ram: 93140 of which 0 recycled
                            Exception stack ram used: 392
                            Never used ram: 11828
                            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,764) HEAT(blocked,904) MAIN(running,3824) IDLE(ready,160)
                            Owned mutexes:
                            === Platform ===
                            Last reset 01:44:08 ago, cause: power up
                            Last software reset at 2020-05-05 21:39, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11836 bytes (slot 1)
                            Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                            Error status: 0
                            Free file entries: 10
                            SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                            SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                            MCU temperature: min 32.2, current 32.6, max 32.8
                            Supply voltage: min 2.0, current 2.0, max 6.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
                            Driver 0: ok, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 1: ok, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 2: ok, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 3: ok, SG min/max not available
                            Driver 4: ok, SG min/max not available
                            Date/time: 2020-05-06 15:21:01
                            Cache data hit count 4294967295
                            Slowest loop: 5.34ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                            I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                            === Move ===
                            Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 159, MaxWait: 7ms
                            Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                            === DDARing ===
                            Scheduled moves: 10, completed moves: 10, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                            === Heat ===
                            Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                            Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.1
                            Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                            === GCodes ===
                            Segments left: 0
                            Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
                            Movement lock held by null
                            http is idle in state(s) 0
                            telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                            file is idle in state(s) 0
                            serial is idle in state(s) 0
                            aux is idle in state(s) 0
                            daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                            queue is idle in state(s) 0
                            autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                            Code queue is empty.
                            === Network ===
                            Slowest loop: 201.13ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                            Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                            HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                            • WiFi -
                              Network state is running
                              WiFi module is connected to access point
                              Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 2
                              WiFi firmware version 1.23
                              WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
                              WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                              WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23184
                              WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
                              WiFi signal strength -42dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                              Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                            it appears that i was using the stock connectors on the end stops and as such were wired up in 3.3v to gnd positions.

                            i remade the connectors appropriately and the end stops are no longer causing me an issue.

                            still have the PSON issue, but i have circumvented that by just shorting it on all the time now. i will come back to this one.

                            current issue is VIN not in spec?

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                              joehsmash @joehsmash
                              last edited by 7 May 2020, 02:13

                              @T3P3Tony It looks like i have a blown fuse on my board.

                              the 7.5a mini blade fuse blew. i wonder what would have caused that. i know i head a kind of pop when i tried to turn on my hotend.

                              im not sure what would have caused it if it was the hot end, i just replaced the heater, and the thermistor. i also have replaced the line going straight back to the duet. there's only one connector just before the hot end if i ever need to disconnect it.

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                                dc42 administrators @joehsmash
                                last edited by 7 May 2020, 09:36

                                @joehsmash said in PS_ON not working?:

                                the 7.5a mini blade fuse blew. i wonder what would have caused that. i know i head a kind of pop when i tried to turn on my hotend.

                                Most likely you has a short circuit in the hot end heater or in the wiring to it.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  joehsmash @dc42
                                  last edited by 7 May 2020, 22:29

                                  @dc42

                                  yes i discovered last night after i ripped my printer appart that there was indeed a short between the hotend wire and the heater cartridge. some kapton and a some silicone sleeves and all is well there!

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                                    joehsmash @T3P3Tony
                                    last edited by 7 May 2020, 22:39

                                    @T3P3Tony i feel like im getting pretty close, i have come back to the original issue here is my M122 pre M80

                                    M122
                                    === Diagnostics ===
                                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                                    Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
                                    Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (15 max)
                                    === RTOS ===
                                    Static ram: 25712
                                    Dynamic ram: 93140 of which 0 recycled
                                    Exception stack ram used: 384
                                    Never used ram: 11836
                                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3752) IDLE(ready,160)
                                    Owned mutexes:
                                    === Platform ===
                                    Last reset 00:08:16 ago, cause: power up
                                    Last software reset at 2020-05-07 00:48, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11780 bytes (slot 1)
                                    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                    Error status: 0
                                    Free file entries: 9
                                    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                    SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                    MCU temperature: min 29.9, current 30.3, max 30.5
                                    Supply voltage: min 0.6, current 0.7, max 0.7, under voltage events: 1, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
                                    Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Date/time: 2020-05-07 16:34:14
                                    Cache data hit count 1617214182
                                    Slowest loop: 1.16ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                                    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                    === Move ===
                                    Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 158, MinFreeDm: 158, MaxWait: 0ms
                                    Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                    === DDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves: 4, completed moves: 3, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                                    === Heat ===
                                    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                    === GCodes ===
                                    Segments left: 0
                                    Stack records: 1 allocated, 1 in use
                                    Movement lock held by http
                                    http is idle in state(s) 1 8
                                    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                    file is idle in state(s) 0
                                    serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                    aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                    queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Code queue is empty.
                                    === Network ===
                                    Slowest loop: 201.11ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                                    • WiFi -
                                      Network state is running
                                      WiFi module is connected to access point
                                      Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
                                      WiFi firmware version 1.23
                                      WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
                                      WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                                      WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23112
                                      WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
                                      WiFi signal strength -45dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                                      Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                                    and here it is post M80

                                    M122
                                    === Diagnostics ===
                                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                                    Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
                                    Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (15 max)
                                    === RTOS ===
                                    Static ram: 25712
                                    Dynamic ram: 93140 of which 0 recycled
                                    Exception stack ram used: 384
                                    Never used ram: 11836
                                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3752) IDLE(ready,160)
                                    Owned mutexes:
                                    === Platform ===
                                    Last reset 00:10:46 ago, cause: power up
                                    Last software reset at 2020-05-07 00:48, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11780 bytes (slot 1)
                                    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                    Error status: 0
                                    Free file entries: 10
                                    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                    SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                    MCU temperature: min 30.1, current 30.8, max 30.8
                                    Supply voltage: min 0.6, current 0.7, max 0.7, under voltage events: 1, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
                                    Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Date/time: 2020-05-07 16:36:45
                                    Cache data hit count 2209121988
                                    Slowest loop: 2.06ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                                    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                    === Move ===
                                    Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 158, MaxWait: 0ms
                                    Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                    === DDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves: 4, completed moves: 4, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                                    === Heat ===
                                    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                    === GCodes ===
                                    Segments left: 0
                                    Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
                                    Movement lock held by null
                                    http is idle in state(s) 0
                                    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                    file is idle in state(s) 0
                                    serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                    aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                    queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Code queue is empty.
                                    === Network ===
                                    Slowest loop: 202.11ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                                    • WiFi -
                                      Network state is running
                                      WiFi module is connected to access point
                                      Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 2
                                      WiFi firmware version 1.23
                                      WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
                                      WiFi Vcc 3.39, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                                      WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 21648
                                      WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
                                      WiFi signal strength -44dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                                      Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                                    not much has changed

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                                      joehsmash
                                      last edited by 7 May 2020, 22:50

                                      i cant find any reference to M80/81 in the config.g file, and i dont see it defined any where else,

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                                        joehsmash
                                        last edited by 8 May 2020, 00:16

                                        i have now added the M80/81 commands at the beginning of the config.g and again no change

                                        M80 ; Turns on the ATX power supply
                                        M81 ; Turns off the ATX power supply

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                                          joehsmash
                                          last edited by 8 May 2020, 00:19

                                          i have also measured with my meter, that i currently have 3.3v on the PSON connector that is feeding onto the DUET. i assumed that the duet would just ground that pin. but irregardless of m command it still retains the 3.3v.

                                          i also found a note in the forum from one of the duet employees that the GND isnt required so i have since removed it.

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