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    • Danalundefined
      Danal
      last edited by

      Also, I STRONGLY suggest you start a new thread for each new problem. Example: "Endstop Switches not working" will get a lot more attention as a thread than a dozen posts down the "PS_ON not working" thread.

      P.S. I have no relation to Duet the company.

      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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      • joehsmashundefined
        joehsmash @Danal
        last edited by

        @Danal i gotcha, i have verified the wiring and changed the switches. Nothing has changed on my printer other than the duet. I have tested every switch with my meter as well.

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        • joehsmashundefined
          joehsmash @joehsmash
          last edited by joehsmash

          i will try to redo the connectors tomorrow morning

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators
            last edited by

            Hi @joehsmash thanks, looks correctly wired like this:

            32f4d43e-9a50-4dd8-83a6-9d905b17aed8-image.png .

            Assuming that wiring worked previously (the 5V SB goes to the correct place?) then it should work. please can you share your config.g just in case there is something odd going on that is interfering with M80/M81. Also please try the following tests:

            1. Once started up send M98 P"/sys/config.g" to run config.g again. sometimes errors in the config file are not reported in the console during startup so this will run it again and report any errors.
            2. send M122 and post the results here, see if they are any different before/after the M80 command

            P.S. You can cut and paste images into your post or use the "upload image" button to attach images.

            www.duet3d.com

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            • joehsmashundefined
              joehsmash @T3P3Tony
              last edited by

              @T3P3Tony here is my M122

              M122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
              Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
              Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (17 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 25712
              Dynamic ram: 93140 of which 0 recycled
              Exception stack ram used: 392
              Never used ram: 11828
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,764) HEAT(blocked,904) MAIN(running,3824) IDLE(ready,160)
              Owned mutexes:
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 01:44:08 ago, cause: power up
              Last software reset at 2020-05-05 21:39, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11836 bytes (slot 1)
              Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
              Error status: 0
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
              SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
              MCU temperature: min 32.2, current 32.6, max 32.8
              Supply voltage: min 2.0, current 2.0, max 6.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
              Driver 0: ok, SG min/max not available
              Driver 1: ok, SG min/max not available
              Driver 2: ok, SG min/max not available
              Driver 3: ok, SG min/max not available
              Driver 4: ok, SG min/max not available
              Date/time: 2020-05-06 15:21:01
              Cache data hit count 4294967295
              Slowest loop: 5.34ms; fastest: 0.05ms
              I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
              === Move ===
              Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 159, MaxWait: 7ms
              Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
              === DDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 10, completed moves: 10, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
              Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.1
              Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 0
              Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
              Movement lock held by null
              http is idle in state(s) 0
              telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              file is idle in state(s) 0
              serial is idle in state(s) 0
              aux is idle in state(s) 0
              daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              queue is idle in state(s) 0
              autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty.
              === Network ===
              Slowest loop: 201.13ms; fastest: 0.08ms
              Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
              HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

              • WiFi -
                Network state is running
                WiFi module is connected to access point
                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 2
                WiFi firmware version 1.23
                WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
                WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23184
                WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
                WiFi signal strength -42dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

              it appears that i was using the stock connectors on the end stops and as such were wired up in 3.3v to gnd positions.

              i remade the connectors appropriately and the end stops are no longer causing me an issue.

              still have the PSON issue, but i have circumvented that by just shorting it on all the time now. i will come back to this one.

              current issue is VIN not in spec?

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              • joehsmashundefined
                joehsmash @joehsmash
                last edited by

                @T3P3Tony It looks like i have a blown fuse on my board.

                the 7.5a mini blade fuse blew. i wonder what would have caused that. i know i head a kind of pop when i tried to turn on my hotend.

                im not sure what would have caused it if it was the hot end, i just replaced the heater, and the thermistor. i also have replaced the line going straight back to the duet. there's only one connector just before the hot end if i ever need to disconnect it.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @joehsmash
                  last edited by

                  @joehsmash said in PS_ON not working?:

                  the 7.5a mini blade fuse blew. i wonder what would have caused that. i know i head a kind of pop when i tried to turn on my hotend.

                  Most likely you has a short circuit in the hot end heater or in the wiring to it.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • joehsmashundefined
                    joehsmash @dc42
                    last edited by

                    @dc42

                    yes i discovered last night after i ripped my printer appart that there was indeed a short between the hotend wire and the heater cartridge. some kapton and a some silicone sleeves and all is well there!

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                    • joehsmashundefined
                      joehsmash @T3P3Tony
                      last edited by

                      @T3P3Tony i feel like im getting pretty close, i have come back to the original issue here is my M122 pre M80

                      M122
                      === Diagnostics ===
                      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                      Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
                      Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (15 max)
                      === RTOS ===
                      Static ram: 25712
                      Dynamic ram: 93140 of which 0 recycled
                      Exception stack ram used: 384
                      Never used ram: 11836
                      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3752) IDLE(ready,160)
                      Owned mutexes:
                      === Platform ===
                      Last reset 00:08:16 ago, cause: power up
                      Last software reset at 2020-05-07 00:48, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11780 bytes (slot 1)
                      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                      Error status: 0
                      Free file entries: 9
                      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                      SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                      MCU temperature: min 29.9, current 30.3, max 30.5
                      Supply voltage: min 0.6, current 0.7, max 0.7, under voltage events: 1, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
                      Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Date/time: 2020-05-07 16:34:14
                      Cache data hit count 1617214182
                      Slowest loop: 1.16ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                      I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                      === Move ===
                      Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 158, MinFreeDm: 158, MaxWait: 0ms
                      Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                      === DDARing ===
                      Scheduled moves: 4, completed moves: 3, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                      === Heat ===
                      Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                      === GCodes ===
                      Segments left: 0
                      Stack records: 1 allocated, 1 in use
                      Movement lock held by http
                      http is idle in state(s) 1 8
                      telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                      file is idle in state(s) 0
                      serial is idle in state(s) 0
                      aux is idle in state(s) 0
                      daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                      queue is idle in state(s) 0
                      autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                      Code queue is empty.
                      === Network ===
                      Slowest loop: 201.11ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                      • WiFi -
                        Network state is running
                        WiFi module is connected to access point
                        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
                        WiFi firmware version 1.23
                        WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
                        WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                        WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23112
                        WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
                        WiFi signal strength -45dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                      and here it is post M80

                      M122
                      === Diagnostics ===
                      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                      Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
                      Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (15 max)
                      === RTOS ===
                      Static ram: 25712
                      Dynamic ram: 93140 of which 0 recycled
                      Exception stack ram used: 384
                      Never used ram: 11836
                      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3752) IDLE(ready,160)
                      Owned mutexes:
                      === Platform ===
                      Last reset 00:10:46 ago, cause: power up
                      Last software reset at 2020-05-07 00:48, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11780 bytes (slot 1)
                      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                      Error status: 0
                      Free file entries: 10
                      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                      SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                      MCU temperature: min 30.1, current 30.8, max 30.8
                      Supply voltage: min 0.6, current 0.7, max 0.7, under voltage events: 1, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
                      Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                      Date/time: 2020-05-07 16:36:45
                      Cache data hit count 2209121988
                      Slowest loop: 2.06ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                      I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                      === Move ===
                      Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 158, MaxWait: 0ms
                      Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                      === DDARing ===
                      Scheduled moves: 4, completed moves: 4, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                      === Heat ===
                      Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                      === GCodes ===
                      Segments left: 0
                      Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
                      Movement lock held by null
                      http is idle in state(s) 0
                      telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                      file is idle in state(s) 0
                      serial is idle in state(s) 0
                      aux is idle in state(s) 0
                      daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                      queue is idle in state(s) 0
                      autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                      Code queue is empty.
                      === Network ===
                      Slowest loop: 202.11ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                      • WiFi -
                        Network state is running
                        WiFi module is connected to access point
                        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 2
                        WiFi firmware version 1.23
                        WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
                        WiFi Vcc 3.39, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                        WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 21648
                        WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
                        WiFi signal strength -44dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                      not much has changed

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                      • joehsmashundefined
                        joehsmash
                        last edited by

                        i cant find any reference to M80/81 in the config.g file, and i dont see it defined any where else,

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                        • joehsmashundefined
                          joehsmash
                          last edited by

                          i have now added the M80/81 commands at the beginning of the config.g and again no change

                          M80 ; Turns on the ATX power supply
                          M81 ; Turns off the ATX power supply

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                          • joehsmashundefined
                            joehsmash
                            last edited by

                            i have also measured with my meter, that i currently have 3.3v on the PSON connector that is feeding onto the DUET. i assumed that the duet would just ground that pin. but irregardless of m command it still retains the 3.3v.

                            i also found a note in the forum from one of the duet employees that the GND isnt required so i have since removed it.

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                            • joehsmashundefined
                              joehsmash
                              last edited by

                              here is a copy of my config.g

                              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 2.03)
                              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Thu May 07 2020 17:04:03 GMT-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time)

                              ; General preferences
                              M80 ; Turns on the ATX power supply
                              M81 ; Turns off the ATX power supply
                              G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                              M550 P"JoehBo3D" ; set printer name

                              ; Network
                              M552 S1 ; enable network
                              M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                              M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                              M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                              ; Drives
                              M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                              M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                              M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                              M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                              M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                              M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z4000.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
                              M566 X1020.00 Y1020.00 Z24.00 E300.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                              M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                              M201 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                              M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                              ; Axis Limits
                              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                              M208 X228 Y254 Z203 S0 ; set axis maxima

                              ; Endstops
                              M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; set active high endstops
                              M574 Z1 S2 ; set endstops controlled by probe

                              ; Z-Probe
                              M558 P1 H5 F-120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                              G31 P500 X-24 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                              M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                              ; Heaters
                              M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                              M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                              M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                              M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                              M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                              ; Fans
                              M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                              M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1:1 T45 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                              ; Tools
                              M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                              ; Custom settings

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                              • Topherundefined
                                Topher @joehsmash
                                last edited by

                                @joehsmash according to your config.g your supply turns on then the next line it turns off

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                                • joehsmashundefined
                                  joehsmash @Topher
                                  last edited by

                                  @LeckieTech good catch, it still doesnt activate the psu tho 😞

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                                  • Topherundefined
                                    Topher @joehsmash
                                    last edited by

                                    @joehsmash With that output, you can't really read it with a voltmeter unless you add a pull-up resistor. You could use any resistor you have between 1k-100k ohms and pull up to 5 volts.

                                    Send M81 - you should read 5 volts on the middle pin.
                                    Send M80 - you should read 0 volts on the middle pin.
                                    (sorry for the horrible drawing)
                                    IMG_4034.JPG

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                                    • Topherundefined
                                      Topher @joehsmash
                                      last edited by

                                      @joehsmash I suspect that the output is working but isn't one of 2 things.

                                      1. on the same ground plane as the PSU
                                      2. not providing a strong enough ground to the PSU
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                                      • joehsmashundefined
                                        joehsmash
                                        last edited by

                                        I didnt test the board, i tested the voltage of the pson of the psu to which i have 3.3v

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                                        • joehsmashundefined
                                          joehsmash @Topher
                                          last edited by

                                          @LeckieTech i had a ground hooked up to the gnd pin on that header and it still didnt work. So i doubt that its a grounding issue. At least initially.

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                                          • joehsmashundefined
                                            joehsmash @joehsmash
                                            last edited by

                                            @LeckieTech so if i understand you correctly, you want me to pull 5v from the fan header and send it over to the pson pin through a resistor than from the pson to the meter and back to ground?

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