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    • jens55undefined
      jens55
      last edited by

      An interesting development .... I was printing two trays at a time and they were close together. Spreading the trays apart by a substantial amount resulted in the aberration disappearing .....
      It just makes no sense to me!
      I will upgrade as suggested.
      What print settings are you interested in?

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      • giostarkundefined
        giostark
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        I'll be not that useful but...
        I would say that is a Cura fault. In the past I had similar problems. Unfortunately Cura is not perfect. Amazing for what it offer , but not perfect.
        For example the latest version have a strange X shift if I multiply the object inside the program.
        https://community.ultimaker.com/topic/32558-multiply-selected-object-cura-461-shift-bug/?tab=comments#comment-264219
        Also Cura doesn't handle well the rising of the line width. (make strange separation between walls and so on...)
        I don't know what to say about your case now just because from that errors I had I changed so many things in the printer and in the profiles.
        The errors are regular, so something is repeated wrongly also if the preview in Cura doesn't show it.
        If you have modified heavily your profile , try to use a stock profile with just adjusted the temps , speed and layer height.
        This can point a difficult for the program to handle personal and particular configurations.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Thin wall settings. Print speed. Extrusion width, layer height. Just trying to get a full picture of what's going on.

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          • jens55undefined
            jens55 @giostark
            last edited by

            @giostark, thanks for that. I had noticed the x shift but figured it not to be a big deal.
            What gets me is the randomness of the fault with the same model.

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            • jens55undefined
              jens55 @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux, I have exported the project and the file is attached. This version, with the wider clearance between objects, did not produce the aberations but it's the same as the closer spaced version that did show the faults. .3mf extension was changed to .txt extension for upload.

              CFFFP_karen-ink pad storage v11.txt

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              • jens55undefined
                jens55
                last edited by

                Tried upgrading to 3.1.0 but things are broken now. Until that is sorted, I can not try out different things 😞

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                • jens55undefined
                  jens55 @jens55
                  last edited by

                  Finally got RRF3.1.1 going. It still hung initially but reverting to DWC1 and running the upgrade from there worked !

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    I downloaded your 3mf but it looks like it just included the model, but not the print settings.

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                    • jens55undefined
                      jens55
                      last edited by

                      Hmmm .... I had the model loaded and just exported the whole thing. Didn't even know that there is a way to NOT export all the settings at the same time.
                      Any suggestion what I might be doing wrong?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Not sure. Normally the settings go right along with it.

                        How bout a sliced gcode file, most of the settings are usually appended.

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                        • jens55undefined
                          jens55
                          last edited by

                          Could it have been related to the fact that I changed te file extension frm .3mf (or whatever) to .txt ?
                          I assume you changed it back to look at it ....

                          I have changed the model a bit with fillets and currently, printing one at a time, I do not see the previous faults. I have not yet printed this as a multiple model print close together (which is when the earlier problems arose)

                          Do you want the .3mf file anyway or should I wait until I can reproduce the issue with the current model ? Do you want the sliced gcode file anyway or wait ?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                            Oddly when I saved it, it chose .zip as the extension. I renamed it to .3mf. That kind of makes sense though, since .3mf is also a zipped archive, so it must have detected the mimi type or something.

                            Regardless. If you share the 3mf again or the gcode or a screen shot or text description of the settings I'll take a look at it, but if it's not happening on a single object I'm thinking it has less to do with settings, but who knows.

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                            • jens55undefined
                              jens55
                              last edited by

                              It sure is a weird thing ... and I have no clue why this could be happening. In any case, by tomorrow I will print two at a time and see what happens.
                              Thanks for trying to help!

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                If you do get the defects when printing two together capture an M122 as well.

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                                • jens55undefined
                                  jens55
                                  last edited by

                                  Will do - thanks!

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                                  • jens55undefined
                                    jens55
                                    last edited by

                                    I got some aberation on a single print and am now doing a three models at once print.

                                    M122 of the one model print:

                                    m122 may21.txt

                                    Project file of 3 model print as being printed right now (same settings as the one model print)

                                    CFFFP_karen-ink pad storage v11.txt

                                    Note that I have increased bed temperature to fairly high 80C and reduced layer height from 0.3 mm to 0.2 mm with a 0.4 mm nozzle.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Photo of the fault?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        I was able to get this 3mf to load in cura 4.6.1 but it didn't select the print profile though it did load them. Which profile are you using?

                                        Also, Cura gave a warning that the model is not water tight. This can lead to all sorts of crazy things. So I suggest running the model through Netfabb online if you have an autodesk account: https://service.netfabb.com/login.php

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                                        • jens55undefined
                                          jens55
                                          last edited by jens55

                                          Issues are same as before but here is a new picture (although not quite as clear)

                                          20200521_204814.jpg

                                          Profile is "Duet-PLA on glass,volcano,0.8 mm" .... doesn't make any sense whatsoever that it would not select the right ptofile. Makes the exported project useless.

                                          I never had Cura report anything being non-watertight but am not exactly surprised. These non-watertight sections are likely only on the first layer as I had (and still have) problems with the interlinking protrusions of the model.
                                          It's kinda hard to see but here is one interlink section:

                                          20200521_205953.jpg

                                          What you don't see is that there is a gap that is 5 mm tall between the interlock and the main body of the model. The previous/lower model slides into that gap when stacking vertically. For some reason this fails very often in the print so I added some attaching wings that are 0.3 mm tall but they are kinda afterthoughts and likely would cause the error (although I have not seen it)
                                          The first 5 mm of the attachment section is also very weak and breaks off easily. The print is rougher than the remaining section which is part of the main model. You can see a bit of that roughness if you magnify the picture. I suspect a pressure advance issue but it's very frustrating and a single print takes 5 hours !

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                                          • jens55undefined
                                            jens55
                                            last edited by

                                            It is possible that the issues with the profile and even the 'not watertight' are caused by us using different versions of Cura. I am using the 'Master' branch whereas you are using the 'official' Cura release.

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