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    • JoergS5undefined
      JoergS5 @dutti
      last edited by JoergS5

      @barbarossa-cologne the CAN errors mean your Duet misses the expansion board.

      You should set X and Y offsets for BLTouch in G31. This is described with an example in https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s231
      G31 Z value means trigger height, 2.5 mm seens too low, please try a higher value.

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      • duttiundefined
        dutti @JoergS5
        last edited by

        @JoergS5
        Done.
        In general I know About the settings. The main problem is that its not deploying or retracting. Also the software is crazily homing without triggerning the BL.
        Selftest ist working

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        • duttiundefined
          dutti @JoergS5
          last edited by dutti

          @JoergS5
          Trigger height - 4 --> not working.
          Is it a big problem that I haven´t connect the expansion board?

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          • JoergS5undefined
            JoergS5 @dutti
            last edited by JoergS5

            @barbarossa-cologne you can check the core position of BLTouch. This is the allen hex screw on top of the BLTouch. It is turnable by 180° to change deploy-retract distance.
            https://www.antclabs.com/bltouch-v3
            the picture " Correct position of Core (V3.x)" the black core's position can be changed by turning the screw with an inbus (Allen key).
            CoreV3.jpg

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            • JoergS5undefined
              JoergS5 @dutti
              last edited by

              @barbarossa-cologne said in BL-Touch - multiple problems -:

              @JoergS5
              Is it a big problem that I haven´t connect the expansion board?

              I don't have this board, I don't know, it was only a comment about why the error message appeared.

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              • duttiundefined
                dutti @JoergS5
                last edited by

                @JoergS5
                I tried to turn in almost 20 positions. Not working.... 😕

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                • JoergS5undefined
                  JoergS5 @dutti
                  last edited by JoergS5

                  @barbarossa-cologne you posted the wiring as
                  Wiring:
                  BL ---------Duet
                  White - io7.in
                  Black - GND
                  Yellow - io7.out
                  Red - 5v

                  but the BLtouch has 5 cables, 2 for endstop and 3 for servo. You can check whether cabling is ok by controlling the match. In my experience the colors of the cables are sometimes wrong, so I would look the original positions on the 5-pin-connector *) on the BLTouch and compare them with yours, then check that they are connected correctly to the Duet 3 pins.

                  *) On my Smart 2.0, Smart 3.1 and Geetech clone: viewed from the back, pin down: from left to right brown-red-yellow-black-white. 3 servo + 2 endstop.

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                  • duttiundefined
                    dutti @JoergS5
                    last edited by

                    @JoergS5
                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_Duet_Num_3

                    I wired like this....

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                    • JoergS5undefined
                      JoergS5 @dutti
                      last edited by JoergS5

                      @barbarossa-cologne my experience is that the colors are sometimes wrong, better check the positions on the 5-pin-connector to be sure. I saw an image in the internet of the antclabs where black and white were exchanged. And the Creality ones cross a cable for the 3 pin connector.

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                      • duttiundefined
                        dutti @JoergS5
                        last edited by

                        @JoergS5
                        Without seeing the picture I thougth the same. I´ll try it on sunday.
                        Thanks for your help!!

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          At this point I think you should try swapping from io7 to io4 or io5 just to try a different connection. Update the config as needed to point to the new connection.

                          And if that still doesn't work I would try connecting the BLTouch directly to the board with the short leads straight from the BTouch without the extension.

                          If that still doesn't work I would get another BLtouch to test with.

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          • duttiundefined
                            dutti @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux
                            Ok. I'll do it on Sunday!
                            I have a cheap Chinese BL fake at home. Should I take this BL at last try?
                            Is there any other sensor you can recommend if it's not working?
                            The duet one?

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              The BLtouch is a good probe when it's working. It's surface agnostic and a contact probe and it's quite accurate and repeatable when configured correctly. It's the most popular option for a reason.

                              The IR Probe is also very good, but your print surface must be compatible with the IR sensor.

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              • duttiundefined
                                dutti
                                last edited by

                                @Phaedrux
                                ok. Then I´ll do everything to become the BL to work.

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                                • duttiundefined
                                  dutti
                                  last edited by dutti

                                  @JoergS5
                                  Changing the cable order wasn´t helpful.
                                  There is also the problem that the duet homes the z axis. Also when the BL isn´t connected.
                                  @Phaedrux

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                                  • duttiundefined
                                    dutti
                                    last edited by

                                    ; Z-Probe
                                    M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H15 F120 T1400 ;set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                    M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                    G31 P500 X20 Y100 Z4 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                    M557 X15:650 Y15:650 S60 ; define mesh grid

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                                    • JoergS5undefined
                                      JoergS5 @dutti
                                      last edited by JoergS5

                                      @barbarossa-cologne from documentation, setting lower P for G31 seems better:
                                      G31 P25 X20 Y100 Z4

                                      and
                                      M558 P9 C"io7.in" H15 F120 T1400
                                      without the ^, because Duet 3 IO ports all have pullups already.

                                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_endstop_switches#Section_Duet_3_endstop_inputs each IO of Duet 3 has already pullup resistors: "Endstop devices can be connected to the IO_0 through IO_9 connectors. Each endstop input has a 27K pullup resistor, so the endstop devices only need to sink 0.12mA."

                                      You wrote above, that removing ^ didn't work, but how did you mention, maybe it was the wrong P of G31 or some other cause.

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                                      • duttiundefined
                                        dutti
                                        last edited by

                                        @JoergS5
                                        ITS WORKING!!!!!!
                                        I connected the BL to IO4.
                                        I think the IO7 connector isn´t working.
                                        Refund Duet??? 🙂
                                        I´m not sure about the ´´^ ´´. Let it like this and its working now.

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                                        • JoergS5undefined
                                          JoergS5 @dutti
                                          last edited by

                                          @barbarossa-cologne I am glad to hear that!!

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                                          • duttiundefined
                                            dutti @JoergS5
                                            last edited by

                                            @JoergS5
                                            And NO. I´m a Idiot. the ´´^ `` must be deleted. Thanks Jörg and @Phaedrux

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