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    • duttiundefined
      dutti @JoergS5
      last edited by

      @JoergS5
      Done.
      In general I know About the settings. The main problem is that its not deploying or retracting. Also the software is crazily homing without triggerning the BL.
      Selftest ist working

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      • duttiundefined
        dutti @JoergS5
        last edited by dutti

        @JoergS5
        Trigger height - 4 --> not working.
        Is it a big problem that I haven´t connect the expansion board?

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        • JoergS5undefined
          JoergS5 @dutti
          last edited by JoergS5

          @barbarossa-cologne you can check the core position of BLTouch. This is the allen hex screw on top of the BLTouch. It is turnable by 180° to change deploy-retract distance.
          https://www.antclabs.com/bltouch-v3
          the picture " Correct position of Core (V3.x)" the black core's position can be changed by turning the screw with an inbus (Allen key).
          CoreV3.jpg

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          • JoergS5undefined
            JoergS5 @dutti
            last edited by

            @barbarossa-cologne said in BL-Touch - multiple problems -:

            @JoergS5
            Is it a big problem that I haven´t connect the expansion board?

            I don't have this board, I don't know, it was only a comment about why the error message appeared.

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            • duttiundefined
              dutti @JoergS5
              last edited by

              @JoergS5
              I tried to turn in almost 20 positions. Not working.... 😕

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              • JoergS5undefined
                JoergS5 @dutti
                last edited by JoergS5

                @barbarossa-cologne you posted the wiring as
                Wiring:
                BL ---------Duet
                White - io7.in
                Black - GND
                Yellow - io7.out
                Red - 5v

                but the BLtouch has 5 cables, 2 for endstop and 3 for servo. You can check whether cabling is ok by controlling the match. In my experience the colors of the cables are sometimes wrong, so I would look the original positions on the 5-pin-connector *) on the BLTouch and compare them with yours, then check that they are connected correctly to the Duet 3 pins.

                *) On my Smart 2.0, Smart 3.1 and Geetech clone: viewed from the back, pin down: from left to right brown-red-yellow-black-white. 3 servo + 2 endstop.

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                • duttiundefined
                  dutti @JoergS5
                  last edited by

                  @JoergS5
                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_Duet_Num_3

                  I wired like this....

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                  • JoergS5undefined
                    JoergS5 @dutti
                    last edited by JoergS5

                    @barbarossa-cologne my experience is that the colors are sometimes wrong, better check the positions on the 5-pin-connector to be sure. I saw an image in the internet of the antclabs where black and white were exchanged. And the Creality ones cross a cable for the 3 pin connector.

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                    • duttiundefined
                      dutti @JoergS5
                      last edited by

                      @JoergS5
                      Without seeing the picture I thougth the same. I´ll try it on sunday.
                      Thanks for your help!!

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        At this point I think you should try swapping from io7 to io4 or io5 just to try a different connection. Update the config as needed to point to the new connection.

                        And if that still doesn't work I would try connecting the BLTouch directly to the board with the short leads straight from the BTouch without the extension.

                        If that still doesn't work I would get another BLtouch to test with.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        • duttiundefined
                          dutti @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux
                          Ok. I'll do it on Sunday!
                          I have a cheap Chinese BL fake at home. Should I take this BL at last try?
                          Is there any other sensor you can recommend if it's not working?
                          The duet one?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            The BLtouch is a good probe when it's working. It's surface agnostic and a contact probe and it's quite accurate and repeatable when configured correctly. It's the most popular option for a reason.

                            The IR Probe is also very good, but your print surface must be compatible with the IR sensor.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            • duttiundefined
                              dutti
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux
                              ok. Then I´ll do everything to become the BL to work.

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                              • duttiundefined
                                dutti
                                last edited by dutti

                                @JoergS5
                                Changing the cable order wasn´t helpful.
                                There is also the problem that the duet homes the z axis. Also when the BL isn´t connected.
                                @Phaedrux

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                                • duttiundefined
                                  dutti
                                  last edited by

                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H15 F120 T1400 ;set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                  M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                  G31 P500 X20 Y100 Z4 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                  M557 X15:650 Y15:650 S60 ; define mesh grid

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                                  • JoergS5undefined
                                    JoergS5 @dutti
                                    last edited by JoergS5

                                    @barbarossa-cologne from documentation, setting lower P for G31 seems better:
                                    G31 P25 X20 Y100 Z4

                                    and
                                    M558 P9 C"io7.in" H15 F120 T1400
                                    without the ^, because Duet 3 IO ports all have pullups already.

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_endstop_switches#Section_Duet_3_endstop_inputs each IO of Duet 3 has already pullup resistors: "Endstop devices can be connected to the IO_0 through IO_9 connectors. Each endstop input has a 27K pullup resistor, so the endstop devices only need to sink 0.12mA."

                                    You wrote above, that removing ^ didn't work, but how did you mention, maybe it was the wrong P of G31 or some other cause.

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                                    • duttiundefined
                                      dutti
                                      last edited by

                                      @JoergS5
                                      ITS WORKING!!!!!!
                                      I connected the BL to IO4.
                                      I think the IO7 connector isn´t working.
                                      Refund Duet??? 🙂
                                      I´m not sure about the ´´^ ´´. Let it like this and its working now.

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                                      • JoergS5undefined
                                        JoergS5 @dutti
                                        last edited by

                                        @barbarossa-cologne I am glad to hear that!!

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                                        • duttiundefined
                                          dutti @JoergS5
                                          last edited by

                                          @JoergS5
                                          And NO. I´m a Idiot. the ´´^ `` must be deleted. Thanks Jörg and @Phaedrux

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @dutti
                                            last edited by

                                            @barbarossa-cologne said in BL-Touch - multiple problems -:

                                            @Phaedrux said in BL-Touch - multiple problems -:

                                            M98 Pconfig.g

                                            ´´´Response to long, see console´´.

                                            So switch to the Console page of DWC to see the messages.

                                            I havent connected the expansion board, yet. Is this a problem?

                                            You will get some error messages from running config.g if it refers to ports on an expansion board that isn't connected.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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