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    • JoergS5undefined
      JoergS5 @dutti
      last edited by JoergS5

      @barbarossa-cologne said in BL-Touch - multiple problems -:

      Error: M557: bad grid definition: Too many grid points; suggest increase spacing to 31.8mm

      I checked it, from 15 to 650 are 21.16 points, so if it is rounded down to 21 it would reach the 441 limit of Duet 2 (limit of Duet 3 is not known to me). So reducing 650 a bit or S bigger than 30 would be the safe side.

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      • duttiundefined
        dutti
        last edited by

        @JoergS5
        I reduced the amount...

        @PaulHew
        I changed it. Same problem.....

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        • duttiundefined
          dutti
          last edited by

          The software is homing Z without triggering anything. That´s really confusing for me..

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          • duttiundefined
            dutti @PaulHew
            last edited by

            @PaulHew
            Like this?
            ; Endstops
            M574 X2 S1 P"!io3.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin !io3.in
            M574 Y2 S1 P"!io0.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin !io0.in

            ; Z-Probe
            M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H15 F120 T1400 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
            M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X15:650 Y15:650 S30 ; define mesh grid

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            • JoergS5undefined
              JoergS5 @dutti
              last edited by JoergS5

              @barbarossa-cologne the CAN errors mean your Duet misses the expansion board.

              You should set X and Y offsets for BLTouch in G31. This is described with an example in https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s231
              G31 Z value means trigger height, 2.5 mm seens too low, please try a higher value.

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              • duttiundefined
                dutti @JoergS5
                last edited by

                @JoergS5
                Done.
                In general I know About the settings. The main problem is that its not deploying or retracting. Also the software is crazily homing without triggerning the BL.
                Selftest ist working

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                • duttiundefined
                  dutti @JoergS5
                  last edited by dutti

                  @JoergS5
                  Trigger height - 4 --> not working.
                  Is it a big problem that I haven´t connect the expansion board?

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                  • JoergS5undefined
                    JoergS5 @dutti
                    last edited by JoergS5

                    @barbarossa-cologne you can check the core position of BLTouch. This is the allen hex screw on top of the BLTouch. It is turnable by 180° to change deploy-retract distance.
                    https://www.antclabs.com/bltouch-v3
                    the picture " Correct position of Core (V3.x)" the black core's position can be changed by turning the screw with an inbus (Allen key).
                    CoreV3.jpg

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                    • JoergS5undefined
                      JoergS5 @dutti
                      last edited by

                      @barbarossa-cologne said in BL-Touch - multiple problems -:

                      @JoergS5
                      Is it a big problem that I haven´t connect the expansion board?

                      I don't have this board, I don't know, it was only a comment about why the error message appeared.

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                      • duttiundefined
                        dutti @JoergS5
                        last edited by

                        @JoergS5
                        I tried to turn in almost 20 positions. Not working.... 😕

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                        • JoergS5undefined
                          JoergS5 @dutti
                          last edited by JoergS5

                          @barbarossa-cologne you posted the wiring as
                          Wiring:
                          BL ---------Duet
                          White - io7.in
                          Black - GND
                          Yellow - io7.out
                          Red - 5v

                          but the BLtouch has 5 cables, 2 for endstop and 3 for servo. You can check whether cabling is ok by controlling the match. In my experience the colors of the cables are sometimes wrong, so I would look the original positions on the 5-pin-connector *) on the BLTouch and compare them with yours, then check that they are connected correctly to the Duet 3 pins.

                          *) On my Smart 2.0, Smart 3.1 and Geetech clone: viewed from the back, pin down: from left to right brown-red-yellow-black-white. 3 servo + 2 endstop.

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                          • duttiundefined
                            dutti @JoergS5
                            last edited by

                            @JoergS5
                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_Duet_Num_3

                            I wired like this....

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                            • JoergS5undefined
                              JoergS5 @dutti
                              last edited by JoergS5

                              @barbarossa-cologne my experience is that the colors are sometimes wrong, better check the positions on the 5-pin-connector to be sure. I saw an image in the internet of the antclabs where black and white were exchanged. And the Creality ones cross a cable for the 3 pin connector.

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                              • duttiundefined
                                dutti @JoergS5
                                last edited by

                                @JoergS5
                                Without seeing the picture I thougth the same. I´ll try it on sunday.
                                Thanks for your help!!

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  At this point I think you should try swapping from io7 to io4 or io5 just to try a different connection. Update the config as needed to point to the new connection.

                                  And if that still doesn't work I would try connecting the BLTouch directly to the board with the short leads straight from the BTouch without the extension.

                                  If that still doesn't work I would get another BLtouch to test with.

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  • duttiundefined
                                    dutti @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux
                                    Ok. I'll do it on Sunday!
                                    I have a cheap Chinese BL fake at home. Should I take this BL at last try?
                                    Is there any other sensor you can recommend if it's not working?
                                    The duet one?

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      The BLtouch is a good probe when it's working. It's surface agnostic and a contact probe and it's quite accurate and repeatable when configured correctly. It's the most popular option for a reason.

                                      The IR Probe is also very good, but your print surface must be compatible with the IR sensor.

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      • duttiundefined
                                        dutti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux
                                        ok. Then I´ll do everything to become the BL to work.

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                                        • duttiundefined
                                          dutti
                                          last edited by dutti

                                          @JoergS5
                                          Changing the cable order wasn´t helpful.
                                          There is also the problem that the duet homes the z axis. Also when the BL isn´t connected.
                                          @Phaedrux

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                                          • duttiundefined
                                            dutti
                                            last edited by

                                            ; Z-Probe
                                            M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H15 F120 T1400 ;set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                            M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                            G31 P500 X20 Y100 Z4 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                            M557 X15:650 Y15:650 S60 ; define mesh grid

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