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    • wilrikerundefined
      wilriker @JoergS5
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      @JoergS5 Oh, you mean when there actually are handlers for different interrupts. I thought you were talking about what happens when the interrupt handler is disabled. Misunderstanding. 🤦

      That's actually a field of learning for me still, too.

      But more relevant to this topic again: it's not simply interrupts clashing but interrupts also using DMA. So there are multiple priorities to juggle.

      Manuel
      Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
      with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
      My Tool Collection

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      • JoergS5undefined
        JoergS5 @wilriker
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        @wilriker no, you understood me correctly, I meant it the way you answered.
        I was talking about nested interrupts (NVIC) only because they are in a sense a queuing mechanism, because if a higher interrupt comes, the interrupt which is running is saved and later proceeded.

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        • smoki3undefined
          smoki3
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          I give up!
          I can not get any stable connection between my raspberry and the duet.

          I tried different cables, removed all high current wires in the near of the raspberry. Connected every GND Pin directly to my Power Supply.

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User @smoki3
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            @smoki3 said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

            I tried

            did you try without the duex? i realize you probably need the duex, but if nothing else it could help narrow down what to focus on

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            • smoki3undefined
              smoki3 @A Former User
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              @bearer said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

              @smoki3 said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

              I tried

              did you try without the duex? i realize you probably need the duex, but if nothing else it could help narrow down what to focus on

              Not as easy. Then I have to wire my complete printer again

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                A Former User
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                If I could load and simulate with your config shouldn't you be able to just disconnect the 50 pin ribbon and power and run a simulation as well?

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                • smoki3undefined
                  smoki3 @A Former User
                  last edited by smoki3

                  @bearer then I already get a lot of errors while booting, because the drivers are missing

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                  • wilrikerundefined
                    wilriker @smoki3
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                    @smoki3 Don't worry about your wiring. It most likely is a firmware issue. Unfortunately I did not have any time since the last time I wrote here to look into that.

                    Manuel
                    Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                    with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                    My Tool Collection

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                    • Baenwortundefined
                      Baenwort @wilriker
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                      So when this works for the Ethernet model would it be possible to run spaghetti detective?

                      Also, for the D2E, would this offloading to the SBC enable smoother segments on Delta's using mesh compensation?

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                        A Former User @Baenwort
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                        @Baenwort said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

                        possible to run spaghetti detective?

                        Presumably you'd need to pause the Duet either by triggering on a input pin or sending g-code to pause - as such how the SBC is connected doesn't really matter much except you can use echo M25 | sudo CodeConsole rather than say curl ..blah blah.. or echo M25 > /dev/ttyAMC0 which might require a little setup and flushing of the usb serial first?


                        As for smoother I can't say I'm authority on it, but unless the bottleneck was reading g-code from the SD card moving to a SBC isn't going to improve the handling as the realtime motion planning from the g-code is still done on the Duet.

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                        • Baenwortundefined
                          Baenwort @A Former User
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                          @bearer the spaghetti detective bit was because with a SBC to act as the plugin host it would be potentially easier to port the octoprint plugin.

                          The comment about smoothness is because I was told once that because of the complexity of the Delta math that on Duet 2 if you enabled mesh bed compensation that it no longer calculated every point to move but fell back on arcs and segments like ordinary RAMPS. But if a SBC offloads some work from the duet I wondered if more could be calculated with the now freed up resources.

                          It presumes that the DWC takes up some amount of resources to run on the Duet processor.

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                          • deadwood83undefined
                            deadwood83
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                            OK, here's my thinking on an easy way to connect SBC regardless of ethernet or wifi version.

                            The header on the side is a 2.54mm, could accept female or male, protrudes past the board edge and sits forward and next to the paneldue header. The adapter is soldered to the bottom in the same manner the ESP is attached to the top. It could also be mounted with pins through it.

                            Hole for plastic push-fitting to reinforce.

                            Relief is left for up to a 7mm diameter fastening post around the board mounting screw. Resistors are 470-Ohm.

                            Anything I am missing?
                            SBCAdapter.JPG

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                              A Former User @deadwood83
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                              @deadwood83 said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

                              Anything I am missing?

                              maybe some pull downs to the reset/enable lines to ensure no interference (unless rff 3.2 handles that in firmware) could be jumpered for flexibility i guess.

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                              • deadwood83undefined
                                deadwood83
                                last edited by deadwood83

                                @bearer I think it would be much less intrusive to figure out a way to pull PE4 and PE5 low in firmware.

                                I poked around in the Duet3 designs and I see that someone (Tony?) had a great idea for v1.1.

                                Input buffers. With that in mind, I present version two! All parts available for SMT from JLC, incorporates the design guidelines laid out in the duet3, comes to $19.5USD per 10 (please note I am not selling these, this is the price from JLCPCB) (plus shipping). Sadly I did have to bump it to a dual layer PCB.

                                For V1.04 Duet Wifi, the CS/NPCS0 pin already has a 2k2 resistor. R2 can be bridged in that case.SBCAdapterv2.JPG

                                Fixed the dims.

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                                • arhiundefined
                                  arhi @deadwood83
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                                  @deadwood83 why solder to board instead plugin in to the header?

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                                    A Former User @arhi
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                                    @arhi said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

                                    @deadwood83 why solder to board instead plugin in to the header?

                                    presumably because wifi boards don't have headers?

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                                    • arhiundefined
                                      arhi @A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      @bearer wifi boards you have to desolder the board right? so if you do that you can solder on the 2 headers thats easier than removing the esp module 😄 ...

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                                        A Former User @arhi
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                                        @arhi said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

                                        @bearer wifi boards you have to desolder the board right?

                                        simply disabling it in either RRF or WiFi firmware seems to work, but can't say I've done a ton of testing (there is a thread with a pogo pin thing to slap on top of existing wifi module and worked for the limited testing i did)

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                                        • arhiundefined
                                          arhi @A Former User
                                          last edited by arhi

                                          @bearer ah, that's cool then 🙂 ... I dislike wifi in general so never even tried the duet2wifi board 🙂 all my duet's are eth ... anyhow it's rather easy to solder a header on this board too so not a biggy even as is it is very useful

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                                            A Former User @arhi
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                                            @arhi said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

                                            anyhow it's rather easy to solder a header on this board too so not a biggy even as is it is very useful

                                            true, but the headers holes are covered by the wifi module which is probably not for everyone to remove.

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