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    • droftartsundefined
      droftarts administrators @Lakeman
      last edited by droftarts

      @Lakeman This is a good page for visualising the effects of the delta (M665) parameters: http://boim.com/DeltaUtil/CalDoc/Calibration.html
      I'd guess your delta radius is wrong. Set up and run autocalibration. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer

      Edit: never mind, you got there!

      Ian

      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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      • Lakemanundefined
        Lakeman
        last edited by

        I entered the values of the delta calibration in the config file, ran the macro and G29:
        level.JPG

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        • Carloundefined
          Carlo @Lakeman
          last edited by Carlo

          @Lakeman
          that looks better notice your radius is some 8mm bigger
          I would think about resetting your sensitivity back to default also
          M672 S131:131 up to you but I've never seen any benefit to adjusting it with the stock bed
          or of a config-override on a delta when you do a calibration before a print
          Try a print ? fingers crossed ?

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          • Lakemanundefined
            Lakeman
            last edited by

            I tried printing after this, no succes...
            I will set the sensetivity back and try again

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            • Carloundefined
              Carlo @Lakeman
              last edited by

              @Lakeman
              Where are you based in the world ?

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              • Lakemanundefined
                Lakeman
                last edited by

                Germany

                first layer.jpg

                Failed again. The weird thing for me is that is is to close at one point, and to high 5mm further. It is so local that calibrition can hardly be a problem. Maybe I should go with an even finer mesh setting, but the original predator did not have a super fine mesh and had no problems at all....

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                • Carloundefined
                  Carlo @Lakeman
                  last edited by Carlo

                  @Lakeman

                  Long shot...
                  Can you measure the carriage spacing and then effector spacing of the ball joints

                  or unclip the effector and line it up it to the carriage on all towers ?

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                  • Carloundefined
                    Carlo @Carlo
                    last edited by

                    @Carlo

                    If they are fine
                    Heat bed to 60c 130c hotend home then calibrate Z0.1 see if it goes to that position after calibration.

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                    • Carloundefined
                      Carlo @Carlo
                      last edited by

                      @Carlo
                      Not my creation thanks to another user
                      macro name Prime nozzle also you can add to your start gcode for pla or change the temps for any filament S70 S220 in slicer
                      So home then delta calibrate first, then run the this macro
                      G90
                      M83
                      M207
                      T0
                      M116
                      G29 S1
                      M190 S70
                      M104 S220
                      M109 S220
                      ; Draw arc to prime the nozzle between 6PM and 9PM on the bed edge

                      G1 X0 Y-175 Z0.25 F6000

                      G2 X-175 Y0 I0 J175 E30 F1500

                      G1 X-174.52

                      G3 X0 Y-174.52 I174.52 J0 E28 F1500

                      G1 Z1 E-0.25 F6000

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                      • Lakemanundefined
                        Lakeman
                        last edited by

                        Measured the spacing on the carriages and on the effector: Effector 64.6mm carriges 64.1mm
                        So there is room for improvement..

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @Lakeman
                          last edited by

                          @Lakeman On my delta, I've always had issues with mesh calibration. I only use it to check the bed level, then turn it off for printing. When you're doing the delta calibration, is it turned off? Check there's an M561 and G29 S2 at the beginning of bed.g (assuming that's where you delta calibration is), then if you do a mesh calibration afterwards, cancel it before trying to print.

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • Carloundefined
                            Carlo @Lakeman
                            last edited by

                            @Lakeman

                            Did you change your belts? or tighten them as adjuster is touching the pulley plate so no more adjustment available mine have 15mm ish between them

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                            • Lakemanundefined
                              Lakeman
                              last edited by

                              It seems to be making the same mistake with or without mesh, I just tried a very fine mesh and without after with no succes
                              But maybe I have to fix the 0.5 mm in the spacing...

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                              • Carloundefined
                                Carlo @Lakeman
                                last edited by

                                @Lakeman
                                would be good to rule it out .5mm when your talking 0.12 -0.3mm layers?

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                                • Lakemanundefined
                                  Lakeman
                                  last edited by

                                  I think ruling it out is the best plan, just not entirely sure if it will work if I just scale the printed parts a bit and hopefully end up exactly 0.5mm wider 😛

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                                  • Lakemanundefined
                                    Lakeman
                                    last edited by

                                    I am printing a 0.2mm first layer by the way and I do not know how much effect spacing between the balls has on the height,

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                                    • Carloundefined
                                      Carlo @Lakeman
                                      last edited by

                                      @Lakeman

                                      have you got the link to the ones you printed as there are afew and I found these to be best
                                      Used with the PCB ball mount supplied with the smart effector
                                      anycubic_predator_carriage_SE-PCB_withoutFE.stl

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                                      • Carloundefined
                                        Carlo @Carlo
                                        last edited by

                                        @Carlo

                                        Link here for flying extruder version also
                                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:356764
                                        using the pcb supplied guarantees perfect spacing

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                                        • Lakemanundefined
                                          Lakeman
                                          last edited by

                                          Haydn_Carriage_Adapter_Remix_v4.stl
                                          This is what I used, I will try the stl file you send me, probebly the safest option to use the pcb's. Your second link goes to a tray, not sure what to do with that 😉

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                                          • Carloundefined
                                            Carlo @Lakeman
                                            last edited by Carlo

                                            @Lakeman

                                            Make sure that the spacing between each pair of towers is the same at the top, the bottom, and half way between top and bottom from duets website

                                            The spacing between the bearings at the top of a pair of rods must be exactly the same as the spacing between the bearings at the bottom

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