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    • Carloundefined
      Carlo @Lakeman
      last edited by Carlo

      @Lakeman

      Long shot...
      Can you measure the carriage spacing and then effector spacing of the ball joints

      or unclip the effector and line it up it to the carriage on all towers ?

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      • Carloundefined
        Carlo @Carlo
        last edited by

        @Carlo

        If they are fine
        Heat bed to 60c 130c hotend home then calibrate Z0.1 see if it goes to that position after calibration.

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        • Carloundefined
          Carlo @Carlo
          last edited by

          @Carlo
          Not my creation thanks to another user
          macro name Prime nozzle also you can add to your start gcode for pla or change the temps for any filament S70 S220 in slicer
          So home then delta calibrate first, then run the this macro
          G90
          M83
          M207
          T0
          M116
          G29 S1
          M190 S70
          M104 S220
          M109 S220
          ; Draw arc to prime the nozzle between 6PM and 9PM on the bed edge

          G1 X0 Y-175 Z0.25 F6000

          G2 X-175 Y0 I0 J175 E30 F1500

          G1 X-174.52

          G3 X0 Y-174.52 I174.52 J0 E28 F1500

          G1 Z1 E-0.25 F6000

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          • Lakemanundefined
            Lakeman
            last edited by

            Measured the spacing on the carriages and on the effector: Effector 64.6mm carriges 64.1mm
            So there is room for improvement..

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators @Lakeman
              last edited by

              @Lakeman On my delta, I've always had issues with mesh calibration. I only use it to check the bed level, then turn it off for printing. When you're doing the delta calibration, is it turned off? Check there's an M561 and G29 S2 at the beginning of bed.g (assuming that's where you delta calibration is), then if you do a mesh calibration afterwards, cancel it before trying to print.

              Ian

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              • Carloundefined
                Carlo @Lakeman
                last edited by

                @Lakeman

                Did you change your belts? or tighten them as adjuster is touching the pulley plate so no more adjustment available mine have 15mm ish between them

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                • Lakemanundefined
                  Lakeman
                  last edited by

                  It seems to be making the same mistake with or without mesh, I just tried a very fine mesh and without after with no succes
                  But maybe I have to fix the 0.5 mm in the spacing...

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                  • Carloundefined
                    Carlo @Lakeman
                    last edited by

                    @Lakeman
                    would be good to rule it out .5mm when your talking 0.12 -0.3mm layers?

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                    • Lakemanundefined
                      Lakeman
                      last edited by

                      I think ruling it out is the best plan, just not entirely sure if it will work if I just scale the printed parts a bit and hopefully end up exactly 0.5mm wider 😛

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                      • Lakemanundefined
                        Lakeman
                        last edited by

                        I am printing a 0.2mm first layer by the way and I do not know how much effect spacing between the balls has on the height,

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                        • Carloundefined
                          Carlo @Lakeman
                          last edited by

                          @Lakeman

                          have you got the link to the ones you printed as there are afew and I found these to be best
                          Used with the PCB ball mount supplied with the smart effector
                          anycubic_predator_carriage_SE-PCB_withoutFE.stl

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                          • Carloundefined
                            Carlo @Carlo
                            last edited by

                            @Carlo

                            Link here for flying extruder version also
                            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:356764
                            using the pcb supplied guarantees perfect spacing

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                            • Lakemanundefined
                              Lakeman
                              last edited by

                              Haydn_Carriage_Adapter_Remix_v4.stl
                              This is what I used, I will try the stl file you send me, probebly the safest option to use the pcb's. Your second link goes to a tray, not sure what to do with that 😉

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                              • Carloundefined
                                Carlo @Lakeman
                                last edited by Carlo

                                @Lakeman

                                Make sure that the spacing between each pair of towers is the same at the top, the bottom, and half way between top and bottom from duets website

                                The spacing between the bearings at the top of a pair of rods must be exactly the same as the spacing between the bearings at the bottom

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                                • Carloundefined
                                  Carlo @Lakeman
                                  last edited by

                                  @Lakeman

                                  get the linked version with the flying extruder mounting holes easier to mount the extruder

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                                  • Lakemanundefined
                                    Lakeman
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks, I print those and try again

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                                    • Carloundefined
                                      Carlo @Lakeman
                                      last edited by

                                      @Lakeman

                                      One thing I did change on my bed was the standoffs under it the blue discs if you take 2 off and measure them mine were way way off in size each to each I replaced them with springs but that was after getting my setup sorted

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                                      • Carloundefined
                                        Carlo @Carlo
                                        last edited by

                                        @Carlo

                                        New link no idea why it went to a tray

                                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3567642

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                                        • Lakemanundefined
                                          Lakeman
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello, I tried printing the parts yesterday (small parts usually work after some fiddling) and halfway a belt snapt, thats what you get after to much tensioning for more precision... But anyway, I changed all the belts to new ones with a metal core which I had as spare, tensioned the same and printed the small parts again, which went easy somehow. So I tried to print the big part to be sure. Perfect first layer without a mesh, just after a quick delta calibration.
                                          No idea what was wrong with the other belts, could not find any problems on them and the were installed correcly and tried several amounts of tension over the last year.
                                          I will install the new mounts for the arms anyway to remove the 0.5mm, but they do not couse the first layer issue.
                                          Thanks a lot for al the help, It was a hardware foult afterall, altough I am still not sure what was wrong with them.
                                          The support on the forum is great, really thanks a lot.
                                          Should I close the thread somehow to show it is fixed?

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti @Lakeman
                                            last edited by

                                            @Lakeman said in Smart effector first layer issues:

                                            But anyway, I changed all the belts to new ones with a metal core

                                            thats a big no no. steel belts do not like sharp turns like you have in a delta. they will break and cause problems.

                                            here are some good belts
                                            https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32853559638.html

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