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    Carlo @Lakeman
    last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 13:28

    @Lakeman
    Where are you based in the world ?

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      Lakeman
      last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 13:35

      Germany

      first layer.jpg

      Failed again. The weird thing for me is that is is to close at one point, and to high 5mm further. It is so local that calibrition can hardly be a problem. Maybe I should go with an even finer mesh setting, but the original predator did not have a super fine mesh and had no problems at all....

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        Carlo @Lakeman
        last edited by Carlo 26 Aug 2020, 13:43

        @Lakeman

        Long shot...
        Can you measure the carriage spacing and then effector spacing of the ball joints

        or unclip the effector and line it up it to the carriage on all towers ?

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          Carlo @Carlo
          last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 13:52

          @Carlo

          If they are fine
          Heat bed to 60c 130c hotend home then calibrate Z0.1 see if it goes to that position after calibration.

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            Carlo @Carlo
            last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:04

            @Carlo
            Not my creation thanks to another user
            macro name Prime nozzle also you can add to your start gcode for pla or change the temps for any filament S70 S220 in slicer
            So home then delta calibrate first, then run the this macro
            G90
            M83
            M207
            T0
            M116
            G29 S1
            M190 S70
            M104 S220
            M109 S220
            ; Draw arc to prime the nozzle between 6PM and 9PM on the bed edge

            G1 X0 Y-175 Z0.25 F6000

            G2 X-175 Y0 I0 J175 E30 F1500

            G1 X-174.52

            G3 X0 Y-174.52 I174.52 J0 E28 F1500

            G1 Z1 E-0.25 F6000

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              Lakeman
              last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:16

              Measured the spacing on the carriages and on the effector: Effector 64.6mm carriges 64.1mm
              So there is room for improvement..

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                droftarts administrators @Lakeman
                last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:16

                @Lakeman On my delta, I've always had issues with mesh calibration. I only use it to check the bed level, then turn it off for printing. When you're doing the delta calibration, is it turned off? Check there's an M561 and G29 S2 at the beginning of bed.g (assuming that's where you delta calibration is), then if you do a mesh calibration afterwards, cancel it before trying to print.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                  Carlo @Lakeman
                  last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:18

                  @Lakeman

                  Did you change your belts? or tighten them as adjuster is touching the pulley plate so no more adjustment available mine have 15mm ish between them

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                    Lakeman
                    last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:19

                    It seems to be making the same mistake with or without mesh, I just tried a very fine mesh and without after with no succes
                    But maybe I have to fix the 0.5 mm in the spacing...

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                      Carlo @Lakeman
                      last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:20

                      @Lakeman
                      would be good to rule it out .5mm when your talking 0.12 -0.3mm layers?

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                        Lakeman
                        last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:22

                        I think ruling it out is the best plan, just not entirely sure if it will work if I just scale the printed parts a bit and hopefully end up exactly 0.5mm wider 😛

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                          Lakeman
                          last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:25

                          I am printing a 0.2mm first layer by the way and I do not know how much effect spacing between the balls has on the height,

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                            Carlo @Lakeman
                            last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:29

                            @Lakeman

                            have you got the link to the ones you printed as there are afew and I found these to be best
                            Used with the PCB ball mount supplied with the smart effector
                            anycubic_predator_carriage_SE-PCB_withoutFE.stl

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                              Carlo @Carlo
                              last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:32

                              @Carlo

                              Link here for flying extruder version also
                              https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:356764
                              using the pcb supplied guarantees perfect spacing

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                                Lakeman
                                last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:52

                                Haydn_Carriage_Adapter_Remix_v4.stl
                                This is what I used, I will try the stl file you send me, probebly the safest option to use the pcb's. Your second link goes to a tray, not sure what to do with that 😉

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                                  Carlo @Lakeman
                                  last edited by Carlo 26 Aug 2020, 14:54

                                  @Lakeman

                                  Make sure that the spacing between each pair of towers is the same at the top, the bottom, and half way between top and bottom from duets website

                                  The spacing between the bearings at the top of a pair of rods must be exactly the same as the spacing between the bearings at the bottom

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                                    Carlo @Lakeman
                                    last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 14:56

                                    @Lakeman

                                    get the linked version with the flying extruder mounting holes easier to mount the extruder

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                                      Lakeman
                                      last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 15:06

                                      Thanks, I print those and try again

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                                        Carlo @Lakeman
                                        last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 15:08

                                        @Lakeman

                                        One thing I did change on my bed was the standoffs under it the blue discs if you take 2 off and measure them mine were way way off in size each to each I replaced them with springs but that was after getting my setup sorted

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                                          Carlo @Carlo
                                          last edited by 26 Aug 2020, 15:10

                                          @Carlo

                                          New link no idea why it went to a tray

                                          https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3567642

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