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    Veti
    last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 14:14

    then try S15

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      illy
      last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 14:27

      @Veti

      Unbenannt.JPG

      @peter247 I'm using probe to home Z

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        peter247 @illy
        last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 14:34

        @sykb

        Is your off set correct ?

        G31 P600 X32.7 Y35 Z0.5 ; Set Z probe trigger

        So this say your probe is 32.7mm to the right of the nozzle X axis and your probe is 35mm to the back of the nozzle Y axis , Correct ?

        Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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          Veti
          last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 14:44

          @Veti said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

          then try S15

          you have not changed this. there are only 9 points in your mesh.

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            Phaedrux Moderator @illy
            last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 17:35

            @sykb said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

            M564 S0 H0
            G1 X33.5 Y27 Z15 F6000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
            M564 S0 H1

            You shouldn't have to be using M564 at all. I would suggest removing those. If something isn't working without them you've got other problems to solve.

            What type of probe is this?

            Increasing your grid density will give you a better idea of what the bed surface is actually like. When it's so sparse like you have there could be large variations in between the points that are not captured in the mesh and can't be compensated for.

            You can try adding M558 A parameter to increase the repeatability of the probe.

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              deonholt @illy
              last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:06

              @sykb what settings do you use to tell the probing to only probe 9 points? I would like to have that as well. Mine is currently probing about 42 points and I have a glass bed.

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                Phaedrux Moderator @deonholt
                last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:11

                @deonholt said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

                @sykb what settings do you use to tell the probing to only probe 9 points? I would like to have that as well. Mine is currently probing about 42 points and I have a glass bed.

                In M557 you use either S or P parameters to tell it the spacing of the points, or the number of points. So if you want 9 points, use P3:3 which will probe a 3x3 grid.

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                  deonholt @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:13

                  @Phaedrux said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

                  @deonholt said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

                  @sykb what settings do you use to tell the probing to only probe 9 points? I would like to have that as well. Mine is currently probing about 42 points and I have a glass bed.

                  In M557 you use either S or P parameters to tell it the spacing of the points, or the number of points. So if you want 9 points, use P3:3 which will probe a 3x3 grid.

                  Great! Thank you so much.

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                    deonholt @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:26

                    @Phaedrux said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

                    In M557 you use either S or P parameters to tell it the spacing of the points, or the number of points. So if you want 9 points, use P3:3 which will probe a 3x3 grid.

                    I tried this but it gave some error:
                    M557 P3:3 ; define mesh grid 3x3
                    I think I' missing something to tell it to save it. (I'm learning.)

                    Thanks.

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                      fcwilt @deonholt
                      last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:57

                      @deonholt said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

                      I tried this but it gave some error:
                      M557 P3:3 ; define mesh grid 3x3
                      I think I' missing something to tell it to save it. (I'm learning.)

                      Thanks.

                      You still have to include the X and Y min/max values.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        Phaedrux Moderator @deonholt
                        last edited by Phaedrux 9 Jul 2020, 19:00 7 Sept 2020, 19:00

                        @deonholt When in doubt check the gcode wiki.

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M557_Set_Z_probe_point_or_define_probing_grid

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation#Section_Define_the_mesh_size_and_spacing

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                          peter247 @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 21:47

                          @Phaedrux

                          Not seen sykb on , But I can see lots of faults .
                          Can't tell what printer he has , but to me the off sets or wrong , the homing files are wrong , and he is not probing the centre of the bed.

                          Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                            illy
                            last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 06:29

                            Thank you everyone for your response and sorry for my slow response. I'll try all your suggests.

                            @peter247 yes, the off set is correct. I can show you a picture.

                            InkedWhatsApp Image 2020-09-08 at 08.11.17_LI.jpg

                            @Veti yes, I have not changed it. I just wanted to show you how it looks with 9 points. I'll update the firmware first to 2.05.1 and try with S10 or S15, as you suggested.

                            @Phaedrux I've tried adding M558 A parameter in 2.02 and didn't get a better result. I'll try it again but in 2.05.1.

                            I'm using an inductive sensor as probe. You can also see it on the picture above.

                            @deonholt yes, you also have to define the X and Y min and max values, as @fcwilt said.

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                              illy
                              last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 08:51

                              @Veti I've tried S30 (49 points) in RRF 2.05.1 and this is the result:

                              s30a3.JPG

                              And then I did a test print but got the same result as before.

                              @Phaedrux I've changed the code to S30 in the M557 command and to H10 A6 S0.01 in the M558 command, but there is still no improvement. I've also tried removing the M564 commands in the homing files, as you suggested, but after that I could not home Z at all and got an error report saying: Error: G0/G1: insufficient axes homed.

                              And this the height map with the changed parameter:

                              s30,h10a6s0.01.JPG

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                                peter247 @illy
                                last edited by peter247 9 Aug 2020, 08:56 8 Sept 2020, 08:54

                                @sykb

                                Your homing could be simpler :-
                                This is mine !!!

                                ; homeall.g
                                ; called to home all axes
                                ;
                                G91 ; relative positioning
                                G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 H1 X 355 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                G1 H1 Y 355 F3000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                G90 ; absolute positioning
                                G1 X220 Y175 F4000 ; Move probe to middle of bed 350 x 350
                                G30

                                I only do a single pass homing on X and Y , don't care if it is a fraction out.

                                What is your printing area ? , and can the probe go to the edges of the printing area without hitting the sides or hitting the limits ?

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                                  illy
                                  last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 09:10

                                  @peter247 250x210x325 mm. Yes, the probe can go outwards without hitting anything.

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                                    peter247 @illy
                                    last edited by peter247 9 Aug 2020, 09:40 8 Sept 2020, 09:35

                                    @sykb

                                    I can't see anything wrong with your height map .

                                    First you do need to level your bed , and after looking at your height map do a little adjusting to get it right.

                                    Mesh levelling looks at your bed and adjusts while printing , it does not level your bed !!!!

                                    This is my map .
                                    level6.jpg

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                                      illy
                                      last edited by illy 9 Aug 2020, 11:25 8 Sept 2020, 11:16

                                      @peter247 the problem is the mesh bed compensation. It seems to not be working correctly or maybe not working at all. I've tried varying the H parameter in the M558 command but I always got the same test print result. No improvement. "A large dive height could tolerate a very uneven bed or poor calibration". But it doesn't work for me.

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                                        peter247 @illy
                                        last edited by peter247 9 Aug 2020, 12:19 8 Sept 2020, 11:53

                                        @sykb

                                        M558 command but I always got the same test print result. No improvement.

                                        What do you mean by a print a real physical print with filament or running the mesh bed compensation routine ?

                                        What is wrong with your test print can you show a picture so we can see what your problem is ? ( the first layer )

                                        I've tried varying the H parameter in the M558

                                        The wind direction outside or your house number will do the same affect as the H in the M558 , the H is just the height it will go to after each probe.

                                        Mesh levelling looks at your bed and adjusts while printing , it does not level your bed !!!!

                                        Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                                          Veti
                                          last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 13:21

                                          @peter247 said in Improving mesh bed compensation with M558 HX:

                                          Mesh levelling looks at your bed and adjusts while printing , it does not level your bed !!!!

                                          given a head with enough force it might be possible to physically level the bed 🙂

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