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    • evomotorsundefined
      evomotors @evomotors
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      Another image
      toolboardissue2.jpg

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      • dc42undefined
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        If you are running tool board firmware 3.1, then it could be that you are getting hiccups on the tool board (which you can check by doing a M122 report for the tool board). If that is the reason, then upgrading the tool board firmware to 3.2beta1 should fix it.

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        • evomotorsundefined
          evomotors @dc42
          last edited by evomotors

          @dc42 said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

          If you are running tool board firmware 3.1, then it could be that you are getting hiccups on the tool board (which you can check by doing a M122 report for the tool board). If that is the reason, then upgrading the tool board firmware to 3.2beta1 should fix it.

          It looks to me that it's retracting, but retracting too late in the game. this could explain the blobs at the end of the line and under retractions on the middle of line. Tool Board does reports hiccups constantly.

          I will gladly upgrade the firmware to the latest beta if I can do it safely from the DWC. If it fails, I would most likely have issues with recovery.

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          • evomotorsundefined
            evomotors @dc42
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            @dc42 said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

            If you are running tool board firmware 3.1, then it could be that you are getting hiccups on the tool board (which you can check by doing a M122 report for the tool board). If that is the reason, then upgrading the tool board firmware to 3.2beta1 should fix it.

            Why so many blocked and suspended CAN bus messages?

            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1972) HEAT(blocked,1088) CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436) 
            

            Duet2.PNG

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              In future can you copy and paste the text of the M122 rather than a screen shot?

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              • evomotorsundefined
                evomotors @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                In future can you copy and paste the text of the M122 rather than a screen shot?

                Sorry, here we go.

                10/17/2020, 10:50:39 AM	M122 B121
                Diagnostics for board 121:
                Board TOOL1LC firmware 3.1.0 (2020-05-15b1)
                Never used RAM 8.4Kb, max stack 684b
                HEAT 640 CanAsync 1392 CanRecv 1380 TMC 156 AIN 524 MAIN 2284
                Last reset 96:28:07 ago, cause: software
                Driver 0: open-load-A open-load-B, SG min/max 0/16, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 54, reads 47102, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0xff
                Moves scheduled 3079196, completed 3079194, hiccups 7539
                VIN: 24.0V
                MCU temperature: min 44.0C, current 56.2C, max 65.1C
                Ticks since heat task active 66, ADC conversions started 347266771, completed 347266770, timed out 0
                Last sensors broadcast 00000002 found 1 69 ticks ago
                Free CAN buffers: 36
                NVM user row b1d088a9 fffff8bb 20002a18 b
                TSENS 001602 GAIN 014ffc OFFS 00273f CAL 1f2a
                10/17/2020, 10:50:30 AM	M122
                === Diagnostics ===
                RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.1.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
                Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKDL-3SJ6L-1802G
                Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (22 max)
                === RTOS ===
                Static ram: 154604
                Dynamic ram: 162928 of which 140 recycled
                Exception stack ram used: 552
                Never used ram: 74992
                Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1972) HEAT(blocked,1088) CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436) TMC(blocked,60) MAIN(running,2672) IDLE(ready,76)
                Owned mutexes:
                === Platform ===
                Last reset 96:27:46 ago, cause: software
                Last software reset at 2020-10-13 15:22, reason: User, spinning module LinuxInterface, available RAM 75056 bytes (slot 1)
                Software reset code 0x0010 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0444a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
                Error status: 0
                MCU temperature: min 43.3, current 44.6, max 45.6
                Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 23.8, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
                Driver 0: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
                Driver 1: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
                Driver 2: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
                Driver 3: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
                Driver 4: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
                Driver 5: ok, reads 59468, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/242
                Date/time: 2020-10-17 15:50:17
                Slowest loop: 20.33ms; fastest: 0.21ms
                === Storage ===
                Free file entries: 10
                SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
                SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                === Move ===
                Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 368, MinFreeDm: 336, MaxWait: 0ms
                Bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
                === MainDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves: 1176142, completed moves: 1176118, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: 3
                === AuxDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
                === Heat ===
                Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
                Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                === GCodes ===
                Segments left: 1
                Movement lock held by null
                HTTP* is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0
                Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                File* is doing "G1 X202.007996 Y218.643997 E6.881300" in state(s) 0
                USB is idle in state(s) 0
                Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
                Queue* is idle in state(s) 0
                LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                Daemon* is idle in state(s) 0
                Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
                Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                Code queue is empty.
                === Network ===
                Slowest loop: 0.72ms; fastest: 0.01ms
                Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                HTTP sessions: 0 of 8
                - Ethernet -
                State: disabled
                Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                === CAN ===
                Messages sent 1170785, longest wait 9ms for type 6024
                === Linux interface ===
                State: 0, failed transfers: 0
                Last transfer: 20ms ago
                RX/TX seq numbers: 52239/52241
                SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
                Number of disconnects: 0
                Buffer RX/TX: 1632/3096-0
                === Duet Control Server ===
                Duet Control Server v3.1.1
                File:
                Buffered code: G1 X202.008 Y218.644 E6.8813
                Buffered code: G1 X200.366 Y221.101 E6.9796
                Buffered code: G1 X198.832 Y223.628 E7.0779
                Buffered code: G1 X197.411 Y226.220 E7.1762
                Buffered code: G1 X196.104 Y228.870 E7.2746
                Buffered code: G1 X194.913 Y231.576 E7.3729
                Buffered code: G1 X193.842 Y234.330 E7.4712
                Buffered code: G1 X192.892 Y237.129 E7.5695
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                Buffered code: G1 X191.483 Y242.343 E7.7491
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                Buffered code: G1 X190.786 Y245.736 E7.8644
                Buffered code: G1 X190.336 Y248.658 E7.9627
                Buffered code: G1 X190.014 Y251.596 E8.0610
                Buffered code: G1 X189.821 Y254.545 E8.1593
                Buffered code: G1 X189.756 Y257.500 E8.2576
                Buffered code: G1 X189.821 Y260.455 E8.3559
                Buffered code: G1 X190.014 Y263.404 E8.4542
                Buffered code: G1 X190.281 Y265.836 E8.5356
                Buffered code: G1 X190.336 Y266.342 E8.5525
                Buffered code: G1 X190.786 Y269.264 E8.6508
                Buffered code: G1 X191.362 Y272.162 E8.7491
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                Buffered code: G1 X194.913 Y283.424 E9.1423
                Buffered code: G1 X196.104 Y286.130 E9.2407
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                Buffered code: G1 X198.832 Y291.372 E9.4373
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                Buffered code: G1 X200.366 Y293.899 E9.5356
                Buffered code: G1 X202.008 Y296.356 E9.6339
                ==> 1524 bytes
                Code buffer space: 1588
                Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
                Full transfers per second: 32.49
                File /opt/dsf/sd/gcodes/Pineapple_Bottom120_percent.gcode is selected, processing
                
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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @evomotors
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                  @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                  hiccups 7539

                  So you are getting a lot of hiccups on the tool board, so perhaps try the new beta?

                  is 7mm/s correct for your retraction speed?

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                  • evomotorsundefined
                    evomotors @Phaedrux
                    last edited by evomotors

                    @Phaedrux said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                    @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                    hiccups 7539

                    So you are getting a lot of hiccups on the tool board, so perhaps try the new beta?

                    is 7mm/s correct for your retraction speed?

                    Retraction speed is 7 mm/s, any value higher that that was performing extremely worst when stepper connected to the tool board.

                    I didn't install beta yet. I'm willing to do so, but a little confused in the instructions for installing unstable version using SBC and DWC.

                    What about bunch of blocked and suspended CAN bus commands on the Duet3 board itself?:
                    CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436)

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @evomotors
                      last edited by dc42

                      @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                      What about bunch of blocked and suspended CAN bus commands on the Duet3 board itself?:
                      CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436)

                      Those do not refer to messages. The clue is the "Tasks:" label at the start of the line.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • evomotorsundefined
                        evomotors @dc42
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                        @dc42 said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                        @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                        What about bunch of blocked and suspended CAN bus commands on the Duet3 board itself?:
                        CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436)

                        Those do not refer to messages. The clue is the "Tasks:" label at the start of the line.

                        Can you please point me to how to update to latest beta? What files do I need to download update DWC (looks like it's required for new beta) what bin files do I need to update Duet3 and tool board?

                        I'm looking at this guide right now:
                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Updating_Duet_3_from_RRF3_0_Beta_12_to_3_0_Final_via_DWC

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @evomotors
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                          @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                          I'm looking at this guide right now:
                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Updating_Duet_3_from_RRF3_0_Beta_12_to_3_0_Final_via_DWC

                          This is for a specific case for updating to 3.0 final from 3.0 beta 12.

                          To update to the 3.2 beta2 using a SBC you can add the unstable repository on the pi and then use sudo apt update sudo apt upgrade as usual.

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Software_Installation

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                          • User3Dundefined
                            User3D @evomotors
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                            @evomotors
                            Do you still face the same issue in extrusion ?
                            I'm planning to drive extruder from other board too.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @User3D
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                              @user3d I believe all tool board extrusion issues are solved in recent firmware, though the firmware version must match between mainboard and toolboard.

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                              • User3Dundefined
                                User3D @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                                @user3d I believe all tool board extrusion issues are solved in recent firmware, though the firmware version must match between mainboard and toolboard.

                                Not toolboard. I'm planning so with EXP1XD
                                @phaedrux is it recommended?

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @User3D
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                                  @user3d I am not aware of any issues using a EXP1XD to drive an extruder. The EXP1XD and the TOOL1LC use common source code, so the issues we fixed for the tool board are also fixed for the EXP1XD.

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                                  • User3Dundefined
                                    User3D @dc42
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                                    @dc42 ok. Thank you 😄

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