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    • dc42undefined
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      If you are running tool board firmware 3.1, then it could be that you are getting hiccups on the tool board (which you can check by doing a M122 report for the tool board). If that is the reason, then upgrading the tool board firmware to 3.2beta1 should fix it.

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      • evomotorsundefined
        evomotors @dc42
        last edited by evomotors

        @dc42 said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

        If you are running tool board firmware 3.1, then it could be that you are getting hiccups on the tool board (which you can check by doing a M122 report for the tool board). If that is the reason, then upgrading the tool board firmware to 3.2beta1 should fix it.

        It looks to me that it's retracting, but retracting too late in the game. this could explain the blobs at the end of the line and under retractions on the middle of line. Tool Board does reports hiccups constantly.

        I will gladly upgrade the firmware to the latest beta if I can do it safely from the DWC. If it fails, I would most likely have issues with recovery.

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        • evomotorsundefined
          evomotors @dc42
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          @dc42 said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

          If you are running tool board firmware 3.1, then it could be that you are getting hiccups on the tool board (which you can check by doing a M122 report for the tool board). If that is the reason, then upgrading the tool board firmware to 3.2beta1 should fix it.

          Why so many blocked and suspended CAN bus messages?

          Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1972) HEAT(blocked,1088) CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436) 
          

          Duet2.PNG

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            In future can you copy and paste the text of the M122 rather than a screen shot?

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            • evomotorsundefined
              evomotors @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

              In future can you copy and paste the text of the M122 rather than a screen shot?

              Sorry, here we go.

              10/17/2020, 10:50:39 AM	M122 B121
              Diagnostics for board 121:
              Board TOOL1LC firmware 3.1.0 (2020-05-15b1)
              Never used RAM 8.4Kb, max stack 684b
              HEAT 640 CanAsync 1392 CanRecv 1380 TMC 156 AIN 524 MAIN 2284
              Last reset 96:28:07 ago, cause: software
              Driver 0: open-load-A open-load-B, SG min/max 0/16, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 54, reads 47102, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0xff
              Moves scheduled 3079196, completed 3079194, hiccups 7539
              VIN: 24.0V
              MCU temperature: min 44.0C, current 56.2C, max 65.1C
              Ticks since heat task active 66, ADC conversions started 347266771, completed 347266770, timed out 0
              Last sensors broadcast 00000002 found 1 69 ticks ago
              Free CAN buffers: 36
              NVM user row b1d088a9 fffff8bb 20002a18 b
              TSENS 001602 GAIN 014ffc OFFS 00273f CAL 1f2a
              10/17/2020, 10:50:30 AM	M122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.1.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
              Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKDL-3SJ6L-1802G
              Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (22 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 154604
              Dynamic ram: 162928 of which 140 recycled
              Exception stack ram used: 552
              Never used ram: 74992
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1972) HEAT(blocked,1088) CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436) TMC(blocked,60) MAIN(running,2672) IDLE(ready,76)
              Owned mutexes:
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 96:27:46 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset at 2020-10-13 15:22, reason: User, spinning module LinuxInterface, available RAM 75056 bytes (slot 1)
              Software reset code 0x0010 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0444a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
              Error status: 0
              MCU temperature: min 43.3, current 44.6, max 45.6
              Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 23.8, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
              Driver 0: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
              Driver 1: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
              Driver 2: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
              Driver 3: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
              Driver 4: ok, reads 59467, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
              Driver 5: ok, reads 59468, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/242
              Date/time: 2020-10-17 15:50:17
              Slowest loop: 20.33ms; fastest: 0.21ms
              === Storage ===
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
              SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
              === Move ===
              Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 368, MinFreeDm: 336, MaxWait: 0ms
              Bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
              === MainDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 1176142, completed moves: 1176118, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: 3
              === AuxDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
              Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
              Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 1
              Movement lock held by null
              HTTP* is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0
              Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              File* is doing "G1 X202.007996 Y218.643997 E6.881300" in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue* is idle in state(s) 0
              LCD is idle in state(s) 0
              SBC is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon* is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
              Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty.
              === Network ===
              Slowest loop: 0.72ms; fastest: 0.01ms
              Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
              HTTP sessions: 0 of 8
              - Ethernet -
              State: disabled
              Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
              Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
              === CAN ===
              Messages sent 1170785, longest wait 9ms for type 6024
              === Linux interface ===
              State: 0, failed transfers: 0
              Last transfer: 20ms ago
              RX/TX seq numbers: 52239/52241
              SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
              Number of disconnects: 0
              Buffer RX/TX: 1632/3096-0
              === Duet Control Server ===
              Duet Control Server v3.1.1
              File:
              Buffered code: G1 X202.008 Y218.644 E6.8813
              Buffered code: G1 X200.366 Y221.101 E6.9796
              Buffered code: G1 X198.832 Y223.628 E7.0779
              Buffered code: G1 X197.411 Y226.220 E7.1762
              Buffered code: G1 X196.104 Y228.870 E7.2746
              Buffered code: G1 X194.913 Y231.576 E7.3729
              Buffered code: G1 X193.842 Y234.330 E7.4712
              Buffered code: G1 X192.892 Y237.129 E7.5695
              Buffered code: G1 X192.065 Y239.967 E7.6678
              Buffered code: G1 X191.483 Y242.343 E7.7491
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              Buffered code: G1 X190.336 Y248.658 E7.9627
              Buffered code: G1 X190.014 Y251.596 E8.0610
              Buffered code: G1 X189.821 Y254.545 E8.1593
              Buffered code: G1 X189.756 Y257.500 E8.2576
              Buffered code: G1 X189.821 Y260.455 E8.3559
              Buffered code: G1 X190.014 Y263.404 E8.4542
              Buffered code: G1 X190.281 Y265.836 E8.5356
              Buffered code: G1 X190.336 Y266.342 E8.5525
              Buffered code: G1 X190.786 Y269.264 E8.6508
              Buffered code: G1 X191.362 Y272.162 E8.7491
              Buffered code: G1 X192.065 Y275.033 E8.8474
              Buffered code: G1 X192.892 Y277.871 E8.9457
              Buffered code: G1 X193.842 Y280.670 E9.0440
              Buffered code: G1 X194.913 Y283.424 E9.1423
              Buffered code: G1 X196.104 Y286.130 E9.2407
              Buffered code: G1 X197.411 Y288.781 E9.3390
              Buffered code: G1 X198.832 Y291.372 E9.4373
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              Buffered code: G1 X200.366 Y293.899 E9.5356
              Buffered code: G1 X202.008 Y296.356 E9.6339
              ==> 1524 bytes
              Code buffer space: 1588
              Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
              Full transfers per second: 32.49
              File /opt/dsf/sd/gcodes/Pineapple_Bottom120_percent.gcode is selected, processing
              
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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @evomotors
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                @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                hiccups 7539

                So you are getting a lot of hiccups on the tool board, so perhaps try the new beta?

                is 7mm/s correct for your retraction speed?

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                • evomotorsundefined
                  evomotors @Phaedrux
                  last edited by evomotors

                  @Phaedrux said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                  @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                  hiccups 7539

                  So you are getting a lot of hiccups on the tool board, so perhaps try the new beta?

                  is 7mm/s correct for your retraction speed?

                  Retraction speed is 7 mm/s, any value higher that that was performing extremely worst when stepper connected to the tool board.

                  I didn't install beta yet. I'm willing to do so, but a little confused in the instructions for installing unstable version using SBC and DWC.

                  What about bunch of blocked and suspended CAN bus commands on the Duet3 board itself?:
                  CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436)

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @evomotors
                    last edited by dc42

                    @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                    What about bunch of blocked and suspended CAN bus commands on the Duet3 board itself?:
                    CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436)

                    Those do not refer to messages. The clue is the "Tasks:" label at the start of the line.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • evomotorsundefined
                      evomotors @dc42
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                      @dc42 said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                      @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                      What about bunch of blocked and suspended CAN bus commands on the Duet3 board itself?:
                      CanReceiv(suspended,3388) CanSender(suspended,1392) CanClock(blocked,1436)

                      Those do not refer to messages. The clue is the "Tasks:" label at the start of the line.

                      Can you please point me to how to update to latest beta? What files do I need to download update DWC (looks like it's required for new beta) what bin files do I need to update Duet3 and tool board?

                      I'm looking at this guide right now:
                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Updating_Duet_3_from_RRF3_0_Beta_12_to_3_0_Final_via_DWC

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @evomotors
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                        @evomotors said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                        I'm looking at this guide right now:
                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Updating_Duet_3_from_RRF3_0_Beta_12_to_3_0_Final_via_DWC

                        This is for a specific case for updating to 3.0 final from 3.0 beta 12.

                        To update to the 3.2 beta2 using a SBC you can add the unstable repository on the pi and then use sudo apt update sudo apt upgrade as usual.

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Software_Installation

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                        • User3Dundefined
                          User3D @evomotors
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                          @evomotors
                          Do you still face the same issue in extrusion ?
                          I'm planning to drive extruder from other board too.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @User3D
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                            @user3d I believe all tool board extrusion issues are solved in recent firmware, though the firmware version must match between mainboard and toolboard.

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                            • User3Dundefined
                              User3D @Phaedrux
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                              @phaedrux said in Duet 3 + Tool Board Extruder/Retraction Issue:

                              @user3d I believe all tool board extrusion issues are solved in recent firmware, though the firmware version must match between mainboard and toolboard.

                              Not toolboard. I'm planning so with EXP1XD
                              @phaedrux is it recommended?

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @User3D
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                                @user3d I am not aware of any issues using a EXP1XD to drive an extruder. The EXP1XD and the TOOL1LC use common source code, so the issues we fixed for the tool board are also fixed for the EXP1XD.

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                                • User3Dundefined
                                  User3D @dc42
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                                  @dc42 ok. Thank you 😄

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