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    JadonM @Firefly
    last edited by 30 Mar 2020, 11:50

    @Fireflynj said in Installing Duet Maestro in FlashForge Creator Pro (2016):

    I stalled on this project, looking at finishing it.

    If you need any help, feel free to tag me! I just successfully finished my conversion, except for some annoying blobs!

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      Firefly @JadonM
      last edited by Firefly 18 Oct 2020, 00:45

      @JadonM Hi, thank you for the post, hmm I didn't get notified and I need to check on that. So another 7 months has past, but I am sitting in front of it now reviewing stuff trying to figure out where I left off. so looks like I need get code setup for priming and do a test print.

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        Firefly
        last edited by 20 Oct 2020, 21:52

        it's working, printed a 20cm cube, it's so nice to have variable speed part cooling fan!, something the FlashForge Creator Pro couldn't do before , just on/off.

        so now I think I want to do the BLTouch tool on this printer next. I do find my nozzle gap differs from middle of print bed to edges, even with the 6.5mm glass, so my smooth rods must not be straight, is this what the BLTouch can help with?

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          Phaedrux Moderator @Firefly
          last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 00:02

          @Fireflynj said in Installing Duet Maestro in FlashForge Creator Pro (2016):

          , is this what the BLTouch can help with?

          Yes if you use mesh compensation to create a heightmap of the bed.

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

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            Firefly
            last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 02:07

            Cool! Ok, will be doing the BLTouch then, Thank you @Phaedrux .

            I saw @JadonM did a new graphical display menu
            https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/14774/how-to-add-a-graphical-display-to-your-printer/18
            with external SD card access, awesome! Thank you!

            I need to update the firmware first , ran M115 to see:
            FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 Maestro FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.04 ELECTRONICS: Duet Maestro 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-11-01b1

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              Firefly @Firefly
              last edited by Firefly 21 Oct 2020, 20:33

              @dc42
              I am a little nervous doing this, I'm reading up on updating firmware and document says to make sure I have correct firmware, I understand I need to do 3.0.0 first before I get 3.1.1
              https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.0

              but I don't see anywhere saying that this firmware is for Duet 2 Maestro.
              can you confirm?

              Thank you.

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                A Former User @Firefly
                last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 21:00

                @Fireflynj said in Installing Duet Maestro in FlashForge Creator Pro (2016):

                but I don't see anywhere saying that this firmware is for Duet 2 Maestro.
                can you confirm?

                It contains all firmwares (duet2-wifi/ethernet/maestro and duet3) when you download the .zip file

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 21:05

                  If you upload this zip file as is, without extracting it, to the system tab in DWC it should update everything needed for all Duet2 boards including the Maestro. Then do the same with the 3.1.1 zip file.

                  https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.0/Duet2and3Firmware-3.0.zip

                  https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.1.1/Duet2and3Firmware-3.1.1.zip

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                    Firefly @Firefly
                    last edited by Firefly 21 Oct 2020, 22:29

                    I got the firmware updated, whew, little scary, but learned just uploading zip files and the machine takes care of it is cool, but I have a question for @JadonM, in your instructions you said
                    *upload it to your printer via the blue "Upload" button on the display tab of the web interface. *
                    I use the "Upload menu files" button in display, to upload UltimateDuetMenuSystem-master.zip
                    and it made a subfolder UltimateDuetMenuSystem-master
                    is it suppose to be like that?
                    display is still blank here and I did put the M918 P1 E-4 F2000000 code in the config.

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 22:33

                      I think you're going to need to manually place the files from UltimateDuetMenuSystem-master.zip into a folder in the root of the SD card menu.

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                        A Former User @Firefly
                        last edited by A Former User 21 Oct 2020, 22:36

                        @Fireflynj subfolder sounds wrong, if getting the sd card out and into a computer is tricky you might be able to decompress the zip file, and create a new that does not have a folder in the path for the archive?

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                          Firefly
                          last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 22:59

                          I created a new zip file and uploaded and that worked, deleting the unwanted folder is proving to be a challenge, got it emptied at least, I guess it will be fine to leave it as it is.

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                            Phaedrux Moderator @Firefly
                            last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 23:07

                            @Fireflynj said in Installing Duet Maestro in FlashForge Creator Pro (2016):

                            deleting the unwanted folder is proving to be a challenge, got it emptied at least,

                            Yes, there is no recursive delete in DWC. FTP can be helpful here if pulling the card is inconvient.

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                              Firefly
                              last edited by Firefly 21 Oct 2020, 23:40

                              another bump in the road, so trying to figure out why there is no normally open switch for endstops in the web config tool.

                              ; Endstops
                              M574 X2 S1 P"!xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin !xstop
                              M574 Y2 S1 P"!ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin !ystop
                              M574 Z1 S1 P"!zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin !zstop

                              so i found this comment in Gcode wiki.
                              Endstop type S0 (active low switch) is no longer supported in M574 commands. Instead, use type S1 and invert the input by prefixing the pin name with '!'. Ex: M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop". Invert the input when using an NPN output inductive or capacitive sensor, or using a NO switch (not recommended, use a NC switch instead).

                              what a pain, so now I have to rewire my end switches?
                              ok... I see it works, but must be a reason this should be changed.

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                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 23:52

                                The only difference is that you use S1 and a ! instead of S0.

                                It's just to be more consistent with how pins are handled in RRF3.

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                                  Firefly @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 23:57

                                  @Phaedrux but notice the comment still says active-high , so it's confusing

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by 22 Oct 2020, 00:00

                                    No argument there. It's always been confusing. Active high and active low are esoteric concepts for most.

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                                      Firefly
                                      last edited by 23 Oct 2020, 16:13

                                      Thank you @Phaedrux and @bearer for the replies, it helped me stay on it and made progress.
                                      so firmware update is done and I printed a small test part, its working!
                                      now I need to do BLTouch, some lighting, and make a panel to hold the LCD.

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                                        Firefly
                                        last edited by 27 Oct 2020, 00:41

                                        I am still having signal issues, I need to do more then just twisted wires on stepper motors
                                        so, is it best to shield the stepper motors or buy shielded data cable for the sensor?
                                        I have a dual hotend , can I use a single shielded cable with 4 conductor wire or is it best to keep separate?

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                                          droftarts administrators @Firefly
                                          last edited by 27 Oct 2020, 10:03

                                          @Fireflynj Using shielded, twisted pair cables for thermocouples should be sufficient, but making the sensor cable run as far as possible from the motor wires will also help. If you're still having problems, yes, shielding the motor wires, and grounding the motor case to the frame (we recommend this, see note at end of https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Using_the_internal_drivers )

                                          The hot ends can also be producing interference, as they are controlled by PWM, so at certain frequencies that may effect the thermocouples. When do you see interference? When motors are powered up, and/or moving, or when the hot ends are heating? If your hot ends are both mounted on a single carriage, I'd think it would be okay to use 8-core, 4-twisted-pair shielded wiring for the thermocouples. If your hot ends are independent, then you'll need separate cables going to each thermocouple.

                                          Is there a particular reason you're using thermocouples? PT1000 don't need a daughterboard, are less susceptible to interference, are good for high temperature, and accuracy should be very good on Duet Maestro.

                                          Ian

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