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    • tomljundefined
      tomlj
      last edited by

      Hi, I did read this, unfortunately the numbers I get out from the rated current squared and the current x voltage on the motors Ive got are very different (which I realise is just the suppliers mistake), so I wanted to get a picture of what would typically be expected for these sized motors before committing to an under/over sized supply.

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      • peter247undefined
        peter247 @tomlj
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        @tomlj

        I would that the psu for motors only is very low , 100 watts or less .

        Most of the time why you need a large psu is due to the heated bed.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          Well those are quite large motors. Based on this:

          Stepper motors: at full rated current, the power needed for each motor is its rated current times its rated voltage (if no rated voltage is specified, use the square of the rated current times the phase resistance). This is the power at standstill. To allow for driver losses and the extra power needed to create acceleration, add 50%. Multiply by the number of stepper motors.

          Now is the rated voltage of the motor 24v or is that just your PSU voltage?

          Do you have a spec sheet for the motors?

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          • tomljundefined
            tomlj
            last edited by

            Thanks for your responses, I plan to use a 24V power supply as it is compatible with some external (low power) peripherals I need to use. The motors as far as I can tell are rated 12V, but the listing (Amazon) doesnt offer a great deal of detail so I cant be certain. The details listed are
            Step Angle 1.8°
            Rated Current 2.8A
            Holding Torque 1.3Nm
            Phase Resistance 1.0Ohm
            Phase Inductance 2.1mH
            Rotor Inertia 460g.cm²
            Shaft Diameter: 6.35mm
            Motor Body Length 76mm

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Can you share the listing? Do they have a model number?

              Consider shopping here instead so you can be sure of what you're getting.

              https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/

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              • tomljundefined
                tomlj
                last edited by

                I shall take note of that! The next day delivery was too tempting at the time. Here is the listing for the motors Ive purchased:

                https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QN1YX98/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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                • sebkritikelundefined
                  sebkritikel @Phaedrux
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                  @Phaedrux said in Power Supply Sizing:

                  Can you share the listing? Do they have a model number?

                  Consider shopping here instead so you can be sure of what you're getting.

                  https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/

                  I might be blind, but they don't publish rated voltage? Seems odd but I may have missed it. Plenty of other specs though.

                  (2.8A)^2 * 1Ohm *1.5(scaling)= 11.8W
                  Looking at some roughly equivalent Oriental Motor specs, I'd guess they're rated for about 3V or so
                  2.8A * 3V = 8.4W

                  The Nema23s I'm using are rated at 1.6V and .57ohm, at 2.8A/phase.
                  (2.8A)^2 * .57Ohm *1.5(scaling) = 6.7W
                  2.8A * 1.6V = 4.48W

                  I'd say the two methods (Voltage vs. Resistance) get pretty close (remove the scaling factor and they are actually nearly the same). Going bigger never hurt anything but your wallet! 🙂

                  Don't forget to add in fans, heaters etc.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                    Well at least we know they are quiet.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      So your estimate of 30W each motor looks a bit overboard based on the good guesstimates from @sebkritikel

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                      • tomljundefined
                        tomlj
                        last edited by

                        That's brilliant, thanks again for your help. I found the voltage from digging around the model number but certainly seems it wasn't for the right thing. I'll get a smaller power supply than planned and be very grateful for saving a few quid.

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