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    • fmaundefined
      fma
      last edited by

      Very nice work!

      I'm thinking to make a system to be able to swap hotends but keep the extruder on the carriage. Or at least, just the motor, and use a quick shaft coupling...

      Frédéric

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      • pawPrinterundefined
        pawPrinter @fma
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        @fma Thanks. Yes, your idea would make a lot of sense. I might wait to see what you do, before I re-design mine.

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        • fmaundefined
          fma
          last edited by

          Don't hold your breath, as I need to re-design all my CoreXY gantry to be able to implement a tool changer 😉

          Frédéric

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          • pawPrinterundefined
            pawPrinter @fma
            last edited by

            @fma Ha ha - Yeah, I know how it is!!

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            • Red Sand Robotundefined
              Red Sand Robot
              last edited by

              @pawPrinter Have you seen any issues with the magnets causing interference with the stepper motor driving the Bondtech extruder? I want to make a version of a magnetic parking extruder system on a Prusa style machine, but am concerned about the electromagnet interfering with the operation of the stepper motor.

              almost an engineer

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              • fmaundefined
                fma
                last edited by

                A magnet does not generate electromagnetic interference, as it is a pure static magnetic field.

                It can influence a stepper motor in 2 ways:

                • if the stepper and the magnet move relatively of each other (Foucault currents, Faraday effect...). But you need to move them fast to have an effect!

                • if the static field is high enough to reduce/cancel the magnetic field of the stepper. Unless the magnet is very big and touches the stepper, it should not happen.

                Frédéric

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by dc42

                  As @fma implies, the chances of magnets interfering with stepper drivers is very small. However, strong magnets can prevent brushless fans from working, and even weak magnets can affect a BLTouch.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • Red Sand Robotundefined
                    Red Sand Robot
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                    @fma @dc42 Thanks for the info! I'll probably have the Bondtech/Titan in between the electromagnet and the stepper motor just to be safe. I'm planning on using a small M3 screw, spring and printed flag with an optical endstop switch (and homing without the electromagnets on) so there shouldn't be any issues there as might happen with a BLTouch.

                    almost an engineer

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                    • pawPrinterundefined
                      pawPrinter @Red Sand Robot
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                      @red-sand-robot No, I've not noticed any problems with the Bondtech being affected by the magnets (which are permanent magnets in my case, not electromagnets - I found electromagnets a bit heavy).
                      Interestingly, I have had one occasion when a fan didn't start up properly. I didn't think much of it at the time, because fans can be annoying, but it could have been related to the magnets as @dc42 predicts.

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                      • juan74undefined
                        juan74
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                        @pawPrinter Nice work! I'll be inspiration for me. Could you please share your config file?

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                        • psychotik2k3undefined
                          psychotik2k3 @fma
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                          @fma kinda like mmu2 but once the filament is feeded it would go into free mode or another channel

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                          • psychotik2k3undefined
                            psychotik2k3 @pawPrinter
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                            @pawPrinter do you have link about the magnets you use ?
                            and do you think an external counter weight can replace the spring mecanism ?

                            thanks

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