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    Ducati87
    last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 09:30

    Hello guys, I'm still here 🤠 😵 well, the problem is that the height is not respected when I launch a print. The nozzle is always too high from the bed.
    Could you suggest to me what I have to take a look?
    Thank you guys

    homeall.g:

    ; homeall.g
    ; called to home all axes
    ;
    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Jul 27 2020 14:28:18 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
    ;M400
    ;M913 X50 Y50
    ;M915 X F0 H400 S3 R0
    ;M915 Y F0 H400 S2 R0
    ;G91 ; relative positioning
    ;G1 H2 Z5 F7200 ; lift Z relative to current position
    ;G1 H1 X5 F5000
    ;G1 H1 X-305 F5000 S1 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
    ;G1 H1 X10
    M98 P"homex.g"
    ;G1 H1 Y5 F5000
    ;G1 H1 Y-305 F5000 S1 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
    ;M913 X100 Y100 ; X motors to 100% current
    ;G90
    ;G1 X120 Y170 F7000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
    ;G91 ; relative positioning
    ;G1 H2 Z5 F7200 ; lift Z relative to current position
    ;G90 ; absolute positioning
    ;G1 X110 Y210 F7000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
    ;G4 P750 ; pause
    ;G91
    M98 P"homey.g"
    ;BLTouch Z
    ;G30
    ;G90
    ;G1 Z10 F500
    M98 P"homez.g"

    bed.g:

    ; bed.g
    ; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32
    ;
    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.3 on Sun Jul 05 2020 11:59:18 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
    G29 S2 ;
    M561 ; clear any bed transform
    M98 P"homeall.g" ; home all axes
    while iterations <= 3 ; perform 4 passes
    G30 P0 X280 Y145 Z-99999 P8 ; probe near a leadscrew, half way along Y axis
    G30 P1 X40 Y145 Z-99999 S2 P8 ; probe near a leadscrew and calibrate 2 motors
    G1 Z3 F3000 ; raise head 3mm to ensure it is above the Z probe trigger height
    G90 ; back to absolute mode
    G29 S1

    homez.g:

    ; homez.g
    ; called to home the Z axis
    ;
    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Jul 27 2020 14:28:19 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
    G91 ; relative positioning
    ;G1 H2 Z5 F7200 ; lift Z relative to current position
    G90 ; absolute positioning
    G1 X130 Y170 F7000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
    G4 P750 ; pause
    G91
    ;BLTouch Z
    G30
    G90
    G1 Z10 F500

    start gcode:

    G90 ; use absolute coordinates
    M83 ; extruder relative mode
    M190 S[first_layer_bed_temperature] ; wait for bed temp
    M109 S[first_layer_temperature] ; wait for extruder temp
    G32; home all without mesh bed level
    G1 X5 Y5 Z0.1 F5000.0 ; go outside print area
    G92 E0.0
    G1 X60.0 E9.0 F1000.0 ; intro line
    G1 X100.0 E20 F1000.0 ; intro line
    G92 E0.0

    Firmware:

    Board: Duet 2 WiFi (2WiFi)
    Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.1.1 (2020-05-19b2)
    Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.23```
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      BoA
      last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 09:43

      config.g would help here also

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        Ducati87
        last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 09:44

        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.8 on Fri Nov 20 2020 20:14:09 GMT+0100 (Ora standard dell’Europa centrale)
        ; General preferences
        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"Hypercube Evolution" ; set printer name
        M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode
        ; Network
        M552 S1 ; enable network
        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
        M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
        M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
        M569 P4 S0 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; set drive mapping
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X161.12 Y160.37 Z393.18:393.18 E830.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z15.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1800.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X1800.00 Y1800.00 Z30.00 E300.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1500:Z1500 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
        ; Axis Limits
        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
        M208 X0:300 Y-45:300 Z285 S0 ; set axis maxima
        ; Endstops
        M574 X1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
        M574 Y1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
        M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
        ; Z-Probe
        M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
        M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F420 T9000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
        G31 P500 X22 Y-37 Z3.070 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
        M557 X0:250 Y25:230 S40:40 ; define mesh grid
        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
        ;M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
        M308 S1 P"spi.cs2" Y"rtd-max31865" ; configure sensor 1 as thermocouple via CS pin spi.cs2
        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M143 H1 S290 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 290C
        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"Mat Fan1" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"Hotend Fan" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
        M950 F2 C"Mat Fan2" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
        M106 P2 S1 H-1 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        ; Tools
        M563 P0 S"hotend 0" D0 H1 F0:2 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        ; Custom settings
        M404 N1.75 D0.4 ; Nozzle and filament diameter for monitor
        M200 D1.75 ; set all extruder filament diameters to 1.75mm
        M671 X40:280 Y145:145 S10 ; Define positions of Z leadscrews or bed levelling screws
        M376 H10 ; Set bed compensation taper
        ; Miscellaneous
        M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
        T0 ; select first tool
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          Veti
          last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 09:48

          @Ducati87 said in Z height always not respected:

          M92 X161.12 Y160.37 Z393.18:393.18 E830.00 ; set steps per mm

          multiple values for z are not valid

          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima

          M208 X0:300 Y-45:300 Z285 S0 ; set axis maxima

          this is incorrect x and y here should only have one value

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            BoA
            last edited by BoA 12 Mar 2020, 09:59 3 Dec 2020, 09:54

            This is messed up...

            1. No G28 in start code, so no proper homing
            2. M98 P"homeall.g" should not be in bed.g

            For start code basic sequence should be something like:
            G28 ; home all without mesh bed level
            G32 ; gantry leveling
            G29 ; mesh bed compensation

            that's for start.

            Also. If You just execute G28, is the nozzle on the right height - Z trigger height is correct? And by "nozzle is too high" - by how much?

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              Ducati87 @BoA
              last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:06

              @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

              This is messed up...

              1. No G28 in start code, so no proper homing
              2. M98 P"homeall.g" should not be in bed.g

              For start code basic sequence should be something like:
              G28 ; home all without mesh bed level
              G32 ; gantry leveling
              G29 ; mesh bed compensation

              that's for start.

              Also. If You just execute G28, is the nozzle on the right height - Z trigger height is correct? And by "nozzle is too high" - by how much?

              I call only G32 in the start gcode because I have the G28 and G29 S1 in the bed.g

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                BoA @Ducati87
                last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:11

                @Ducati87 Well... I do not see any G28

                I know what You have in bed.g
                What I wrote is that You should not have it there

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                  Ducati87 @BoA
                  last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:12

                  @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

                  @Ducati87 Well... I do not see any G28

                  I know what You have in bed.g
                  What I wrote is that You should not have it there

                  ok I will try as you suggested.

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                    Ducati87 @BoA
                    last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:16

                    @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

                    This is messed up...

                    1. No G28 in start code, so no proper homing
                    2. M98 P"homeall.g" should not be in bed.g

                    For start code basic sequence should be something like:
                    G28 ; home all without mesh bed level
                    G32 ; gantry leveling
                    G29 ; mesh bed compensation

                    that's for start.

                    Also. If You just execute G28, is the nozzle on the right height - Z trigger height is correct? And by "nozzle is too high" - by how much?

                    When I call G28 the value is about 6.00. If I use the babystep I have to go over the 1.4mm....

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                      BoA @Ducati87
                      last edited by BoA 12 Mar 2020, 10:20 3 Dec 2020, 10:19

                      @Ducati87 Ok then, so assuming this is bltouch

                      M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F420 T9000

                      F420 - too fast for bltouch, I would use F120
                      If nozzle if 1.4mm too high - I would adjust Z trigger height

                      G31 P500 X22 Y-37 Z4.470 ; 3.070 + 1.4

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                        Ducati87 @BoA
                        last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:21

                        @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

                        @Ducati87 Ok then, so assuming this is bltouch

                        M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F420 T9000

                        F420 - too fast for bltouch, I would use F120
                        If nozzle if 1.4mm too high - I would adjust Z trigger height

                        G31 P500 X22 Y-37 Z4.470 ; 3.070 + 1.4

                        for too high I mean too FAR.

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                          BoA @Ducati87
                          last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:23

                          @Ducati87 said in Z height always not respected:

                          for too high I mean too FAR.

                          That is what I assumed

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                            Ducati87 @BoA
                            last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:24

                            @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

                            @Ducati87 said in Z height always not respected:

                            for too high I mean too FAR.

                            That is what I assumed

                            ok I said just to clarify. 😊 😊

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                              BoA @Ducati87
                              last edited by BoA 12 Mar 2020, 10:27 3 Dec 2020, 10:26

                              @Ducati87 Just one question - is that a new setup, or it was working, and is not working correctly now?

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                                Ducati87 @BoA
                                last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:30

                                @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

                                @Ducati87 Just one question - is that a new setup, or it was working, and is not working correctly now?

                                it worked until I had to redo the procedure following the hotend change.

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                                  BoA @Ducati87
                                  last edited by BoA 12 Mar 2020, 10:37 3 Dec 2020, 10:31

                                  @Ducati87 And let me guess... new hotend is about 1.4mm shorter/higher 😉 or... bltouch 1.4mm lower

                                  You can get more precise results by setting:

                                  G31 P500 X22 Y-37 Z0.0

                                  homing using G28

                                  going to Z0.0 (indicated) and measuring actual nozzle tip height. Then put this measurement value as Z trigger height in G31

                                  or after homing disable limits by M564 S0
                                  and move head down just to touch the bed by nozzle tip, and use indicated Z value a trigger height (remove the minus obviously)

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                                    Ducati87 @BoA
                                    last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:49

                                    @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

                                    @Ducati87 And let me guess... new hotend is about 1.4mm shorter/higher 😉 or... bltouch 1.4mm lower

                                    You can get more precise results by setting:

                                    G31 P500 X22 Y-37 Z0.0

                                    homing using G28

                                    going to Z0.0 (indicated) and measuring actual nozzle tip height. Then put this measurement value as Z trigger height in G31

                                    or after homing disable limits by M564 S0
                                    and move head down just to touch the bed by nozzle tip, and use indicated Z value a trigger height (remove the minus obviously)

                                    I did it a couple of times but with same results. the value detected by the procedure is not accurate.

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                                      BoA @Ducati87
                                      last edited by BoA 12 Mar 2020, 10:52 3 Dec 2020, 10:52

                                      @Ducati87 Well... that mostly depends on probe and Your measurements accuracy. Did You slow down probing speed to 120 ?

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                                        Ducati87 @BoA
                                        last edited by 3 Dec 2020, 10:52

                                        @BoA said in Z height always not respected:

                                        @Ducati87 Well... that mostly depends on probe and Your measurements accuracy.

                                        it's an original BLtouch 3.1...I cannot understand where the problem is.

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                                          BoA @Ducati87
                                          last edited by BoA 12 Mar 2020, 11:10 3 Dec 2020, 10:58

                                          @Ducati87 You can try to add A parameter to M558, for example A4. And slow down probing speed to 120

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