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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      Can you also post the results of M122?

      Is your power supply 12v or 24v?

      Is the heater cartridge 12v or 24v?

      Normally the warning of over powered heater is just a warning, but your estimated temp of 1500c or whatever it was is abnormally large. That makes me worry that your heater cartridge may be 12v and your power supply 24v, which would be a dangerous combination.

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      • Atraedesundefined
        Atraedes
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        sorry tried m122 but its says the response is to long

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          Send it from the console tab

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            Atraedes
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            ok i will take a pic, 2 secs

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              chiron.jpg )

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              • Atraedesundefined
                Atraedes @Veti
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                @Veti cheers mate

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                • Atraedesundefined
                  Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                  @Phaedrux M122
                  === Diagnostics ===
                  RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
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                  Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (17 max)
                  === RTOS ===
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                  SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
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                  MCU temperature: min 28.3, current 28.4, max 28.8
                  Supply voltage: min 26.3, current 26.4, max 26.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                  Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
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                  Date/time: 2021-01-11 21:09:04
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                  • Atraedesundefined
                    Atraedes
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                    @Phaedrux said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                    M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                    so M305 P1 T100000 B3950 is the g code for the standard epcos 100k thermistor i can install instead? and then just wire it to the conventional thermistor terminal instead and simply remove the daughter board?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                      Supply voltage: min 26.3, current 26.4, max 26.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes

                      Your power supply seems to be tuned a bit high. Can you carefully check the output voltage with a multimeter?

                      Are you sure your hotend heater cartridge is 24v?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @Atraedes
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                        @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                        @Phaedrux said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                        M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                        so M305 P1 T100000 B3950 is the g code for the standard epcos 100k thermistor i can install instead? and then just wire it to the conventional thermistor terminal instead and simply remove the daughter board?

                        Correct.

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                        • Atraedesundefined
                          Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                          @Phaedrux i thought so to lol, but the multimeter is at the inlaws and i cant get it back, lockdown lol, but thanks, i will check it when i get it back

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                          • Atraedesundefined
                            Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                            @Phaedrux fantastic, many thanks, so programme the G-Code first and then wire it in, or it doesn't matter? I cant say for sure about the heater cartridge as i have so many spares lying around it might very well be a 12v but I didn't think it was due to its size, but now that i can rewire to the standard thermistor i have the complete hotend for the direct drive rig, sir, thanks again for your assistance, much appreciated!

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              If your PSU has a trim pot for adjusting the output voltage try giving it a slight tweak and see if it reduces the value in the M122 a bit. Aim for 24v.

                              Then if you connect your new thermistor and run a PID tuning see if the warning is the same. If it still estimates a 1000c+ max temp you should beware.

                              You can also check your thermistor resistance with a multimeter to see if it's closer to 12v or 24v, but.. multimeter...

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                                Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                                @Phaedrux thanks, ive just sent the comand and this came back, is this ok to now rewire or is there a problem? it says error...
                                M305 P1 T100000 B3950
                                Heater 1 uses PT100 (MAX31865) sensor channel 200, last error: short-circuit in sensor, 2/4 wires, reject 50Hz, reference resistor 400 ohms

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  You should make the change to config.g and then reboot. You can rewire whenever you wish.

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti @Atraedes
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                                    @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                    M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                                    actually the epocs is T98801 B4185

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                                    • Atraedesundefined
                                      Atraedes
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                                      @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                      M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                                      Great, thanks, so instead then - M305 P1 T100000 B4185 ?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                        T98801 B4185

                                        M305 P1 T98801 B4185

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                                        • Atraedesundefined
                                          Atraedes
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                                          @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                          ; Tool 0
                                          M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                                          M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                          M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                          great, thanks, so change it here in config :
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                                          M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                                          M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                          M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                          So change M305 to the code you said, change M143 to new max temp on new hotend, thanks again for all

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                                          • Atraedesundefined
                                            Atraedes
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                                            Hi @Phaedrux, thanks again for your help, it worked great, however, after i did the pid tune i tried to save it with M500 but it says "Warning: No M501 command was executed in config.g", ive since done a couple test prints also and it has flagged up "Error: Heating fault on heater 1" a couple of times, im stumped, the wiring is fine and checked, not sure where to go or why it doesnt take the M500 command

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