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    • Phaedruxundefined
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      Send it from the console tab

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        ok i will take a pic, 2 secs

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          chiron.jpg )

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            Atraedes @Veti
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            @Veti cheers mate

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              @Phaedrux M122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
              Board ID: 08DJM-9178L-L2MS8-6JKFL-3SD6N-KVGQN
              Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (17 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 25712
              Dynamic ram: 93176 of which 0 recycled
              Exception stack ram used: 320
              Never used ram: 11864
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,832) MAIN(running,3728) IDLE(ready,160)
              Owned mutexes:
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:18:35 ago, cause: power up
              Last software reset time unknown, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11956 bytes (slot 0)
              Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
              Error status: 0
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
              SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
              MCU temperature: min 28.3, current 28.4, max 28.8
              Supply voltage: min 26.3, current 26.4, max 26.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Date/time: 2021-01-11 21:09:04
              Cache data hit count 3407316226
              Slowest loop: 3.10ms; fastest: 0.07ms
              I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
              === Move ===
              Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 160, MaxWait: 0ms
              Bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
              === DDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
              Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
              === GCodes ===
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              Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
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              === Network ===
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              • WiFi -
                Network state is running
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                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 4
                WiFi firmware version 1.23
                WiFi MAC address cc:50:e3:e3:ad:08
                WiFi Vcc 3.40, reset reason Turned on by main processor
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              • Atraedesundefined
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                @Phaedrux said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                so M305 P1 T100000 B3950 is the g code for the standard epcos 100k thermistor i can install instead? and then just wire it to the conventional thermistor terminal instead and simply remove the daughter board?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
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                  @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                  Supply voltage: min 26.3, current 26.4, max 26.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes

                  Your power supply seems to be tuned a bit high. Can you carefully check the output voltage with a multimeter?

                  Are you sure your hotend heater cartridge is 24v?

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Atraedes
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                    @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                    @Phaedrux said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                    M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                    so M305 P1 T100000 B3950 is the g code for the standard epcos 100k thermistor i can install instead? and then just wire it to the conventional thermistor terminal instead and simply remove the daughter board?

                    Correct.

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                    • Atraedesundefined
                      Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                      @Phaedrux i thought so to lol, but the multimeter is at the inlaws and i cant get it back, lockdown lol, but thanks, i will check it when i get it back

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                      • Atraedesundefined
                        Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux fantastic, many thanks, so programme the G-Code first and then wire it in, or it doesn't matter? I cant say for sure about the heater cartridge as i have so many spares lying around it might very well be a 12v but I didn't think it was due to its size, but now that i can rewire to the standard thermistor i have the complete hotend for the direct drive rig, sir, thanks again for your assistance, much appreciated!

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
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                          If your PSU has a trim pot for adjusting the output voltage try giving it a slight tweak and see if it reduces the value in the M122 a bit. Aim for 24v.

                          Then if you connect your new thermistor and run a PID tuning see if the warning is the same. If it still estimates a 1000c+ max temp you should beware.

                          You can also check your thermistor resistance with a multimeter to see if it's closer to 12v or 24v, but.. multimeter...

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                            Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                            @Phaedrux thanks, ive just sent the comand and this came back, is this ok to now rewire or is there a problem? it says error...
                            M305 P1 T100000 B3950
                            Heater 1 uses PT100 (MAX31865) sensor channel 200, last error: short-circuit in sensor, 2/4 wires, reject 50Hz, reference resistor 400 ohms

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              You should make the change to config.g and then reboot. You can rewire whenever you wish.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti @Atraedes
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                                @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                                actually the epocs is T98801 B4185

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                                  Atraedes
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                                  @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                  M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                                  Great, thanks, so instead then - M305 P1 T100000 B4185 ?

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
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                                    @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                    T98801 B4185

                                    M305 P1 T98801 B4185

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                                    • Atraedesundefined
                                      Atraedes
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                                      @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                      ; Tool 0
                                      M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                                      M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                      great, thanks, so change it here in config :
                                      ; Tool 0
                                      M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                                      M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                      So change M305 to the code you said, change M143 to new max temp on new hotend, thanks again for all

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                                      • Atraedesundefined
                                        Atraedes
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                                        Hi @Phaedrux, thanks again for your help, it worked great, however, after i did the pid tune i tried to save it with M500 but it says "Warning: No M501 command was executed in config.g", ive since done a couple test prints also and it has flagged up "Error: Heating fault on heater 1" a couple of times, im stumped, the wiring is fine and checked, not sure where to go or why it doesnt take the M500 command

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                                        • Stephen6309undefined
                                          Stephen6309 @Atraedes
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                                          @Atraedes You need a M510 at the end of config,g.

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                                            Atraedes
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                                            thanks, tried it, it says "Warning: M510 command is not supported"

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