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    o_lampe
    last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 12:10

    Oh, there's one thing I want to ask:
    I have a negative number for Zmin in the M208 S1.
    Now, when I home Z, the homed height is set to -2 or whatever I set in M208.
    I haven't found the right way to compensate that other than overwriting it with G92 Z0.

    Does it matter if my G31 Z-probe definition is before or after M208?

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      Veti @o_lampe
      last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 12:13

      @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

      Now, when I home Z, the homed height is set to -2 or whatever I set in M208.

      post you home script

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        fcwilt
        last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 12:20

        M574 X Y S3 - where are the values for X and Y specify the location of the end stop?

        You have specified the Z trigger height in G31 as 0. Usually a capacitive probe triggers a few mm off the surface.

        Also capacitive probes can be slow to respond so you might need to change the F value in M558.

        When you home any axis the position is set to the axis min/max based on the axis parameter in M574.

        You have specified that the end stop of Z is at the low end so it gets set to Z min which you have as -2.

        Why do you have Z min as -2?

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          o_lampe @Veti
          last edited by o_lampe 20 Jan 2021, 12:21

          @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

          @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

          Now, when I home Z, the homed height is set to -2 or whatever I set in M208.

          post you home script

          G91
          G29 S2
          G1 S1 Z-300 F800
          G1 Z5 F800
          G1 S1 Z-10
          ;G92 Z0.0
          G90
          ;G29 S1

          What does it mean, when DWC is giving me a warning about Z=0 datum isn't set everytime i load the heightmap?
          Is it trying to do that, when it crashes against the leadscrew?
          I've made two short videos to show what happens, but I'm not sure when I find the nerve to upload them to u-tube.

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            Veti
            last edited by Veti 20 Jan 2021, 12:24

            that is not a home script. as it disregards any endstop

            nevermind. it used the old S syntax.

            that is the reason why its set to S-1
            when the endstop is triggered the axis is set to the endstop position.
            with a G30 this will not happen as this sets the current positon to z=0

            that would also get rid of the Z=0 datum message.

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              o_lampe @Veti
              last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 12:30

              @Veti
              To be clear, it uses the Z-probe as endstop.

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                Veti
                last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 12:32

                that is wrong.

                try a default homez.

                ; homez.g
                ; called to home the Z axis
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.2 on Wed Jan 20 2021 13:31:39 GMT+0100 (Central European Standard Time)
                G91 ; relative positioning
                G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                G90 ; absolute positioning
                G1 X15 Y15 F6000 ; go to first probe point
                G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                ;G91 ; relative positioning
                ;G1 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                ;G90 ; absolute positioning

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                  o_lampe @Veti
                  last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 12:32

                  @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                  with a G30 this will not happen as this sets the current positon to z=0
                  that would also get rid of the Z=0 datum message.

                  So, I should use G30 instead of G1 S1?

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                    Veti @o_lampe
                    last edited by Veti 20 Jan 2021, 12:32

                    @o_lampe

                    yes

                    you REALLY need to use a standard config that is generated by the config tool.

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                      o_lampe @Veti
                      last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 12:37

                      @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                      @o_lampe

                      yes

                      you REALLY need to use a standard config that is generated by the config tool.

                      I started filling out the config wizard, but then got stuck with the stepper settings. I would have to copy my existing config settings into the wizard, so what is it good for?
                      I'd just copy any possible mistake into the new file, if there's any...

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                        Veti @o_lampe
                        last edited by Veti 20 Jan 2021, 12:38

                        @o_lampe
                        well it would have generated a correct homing script for once.
                        and as i said it will make the migration to version 3 easier

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                          o_lampe
                          last edited by o_lampe 20 Jan 2021, 13:14

                          @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                          G1 X15 Y15 F6000 ; go to first probe point

                          The head moves to that first probe point and then throws an error insufficient axes homed
                          As always I homed X/Y before homeZ with G92 X0 Y0.

                          Do I really have to install endstops for X/Y axis?
                          I never needed them for my CNC. I just parked the toolhead at 0,0 before I switched off and went the G92 way to start...
                          I checked the homeX/Y files. They all look similar to the one I originally posted. (I had this SD-card backup from my CNC machine)

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                            Veti
                            last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 13:19

                            the G30 command give you insufficient axis homed?

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                              fcwilt @o_lampe
                              last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 13:57

                              @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                              As always I homed X/Y before homeZ with G92 X0 Y0.

                              The would work IF the actual positions of X and Y were zero. How do you know they are?

                              Do I really have to install endstops for X/Y axis?

                              No - you can use sensor-less homing.

                              I don't care for that myself. To me using physical end stop sensors for homing is like stopping your car using the brakes. Sensor-less homing seems like stopping your car by running into the car in front of you. 😉


                              As to using G30: did you read the docs on what each variant of G30 does?

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                o_lampe @Veti
                                last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 16:47

                                @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                                the G30 command give you insufficient axis homed?

                                No, the macro doesn't run G30 because of the error message.

                                I used jumpers on X/Y endstops and defined them as active high
                                When I ask M119 it reports X/Y at min endstops. Now I should be able to use the homeall macro. But it stops after the same line as above mentioned.

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                                  Veti
                                  last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 16:48

                                  post your homeall then

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                                    o_lampe @fcwilt
                                    last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 16:49

                                    @fcwilt said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                                    As to using G30: did you read the docs on what each variant of G30 does?

                                    Yes, and I also tried some other versions with various Px and Sx parameters.

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                                      o_lampe @Veti
                                      last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 16:51

                                      @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                                      post your homeall then

                                      ; homeall file for use with dc42 Duet firmware on CoreXY printers
                                      ; This file assumes the endstop switches are at the low end of each axis.
                                      ; Reverse the X and Y movement for high-end switches.
                                      ; Adjust the bed upper and lower limits in config.g (M208 commands) to get the correct homing positions
                                      G91 ; relative mode
                                      G1 F2400 ; course home X or Y //S1 X-340 Y-240
                                      G1 S1 X-340 ; course home X
                                      G1 S1 Y-240 ; course home Y
                                      G1 X14 Y14 F600 ; move away from the endstops
                                      G1 S1 X-20 ; fine home X
                                      G1 S1 Y-20 ; fine home Y
                                      G1 X20 Y20 F4000
                                      G1 F600
                                      G1 S1 Z-300 F600
                                      G1 Z5 F200
                                      G30
                                      ; If you are using a microswitch for Z homing, insert similar code for the Z axis here,
                                      ; but use lower feed rates suitable for your Z axis.
                                      G90 ; back to absolute mode
                                      ; If you homed the Z axis using an endstop switch, you can insert a G92 command here to correct the height.
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                                        Veti
                                        last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 16:53

                                        what script wont work without endstops

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                                          o_lampe
                                          last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 16:58

                                          with the homeall script the behaviour is a bit different: it runs to 20,20 then probes (G1 S1) and runs against the rear beam.

                                          Whenever G30 is issued,the printer freaks out.

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