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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti @o_lampe
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      @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

      I'll try S0 for maxima, but the examples in the gcode wiki only use S1 for minima ( S0 is default?)

      you really should be using the https://configtool.reprapfirmware.org/Start to generate your config

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      • o_lampeundefined
        o_lampe @Veti
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        @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

        @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

        I use the console, but also tried to setup a probe grid and use the menu run mesh bed levelling

        i see no M557 definition in your config for the mesh bed leveling

        Right,
        It's defined through the autoleveling menu in DWC.
        That's why I tried to update DWC to 2.07...

        I can try to put it in the config.g and then simply send G29 from the console?

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti @o_lampe
          last edited by Veti

          @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

          It's defined through the autoleveling menu in DWC.

          again the configtool will generate a config for you that has all the relevant parameters set.
          even M557

          i suggest that you put your existing values in there.
          this will also make the migration to version 3 a lot easier as you can just import he json

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          • o_lampeundefined
            o_lampe
            last edited by

            OK, thanks to both of you @Veti and @chrishamm
            for the qiuck responses.
            I now have the confidence to solve it.
            Will report later

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            • o_lampeundefined
              o_lampe
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              Ok, no changes in behaviour so far...
              I changed the maxima setting to 208 ...S0
              I added M557 X10:250 Y10:170 S40:40 to specify the mesh grid
              I copied DWC 2.07 to the SD card. ( What a relieve)

              But still it does these funny moves and crashes into the leadscrew.

              Any other suggestions?

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              • o_lampeundefined
                o_lampe
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                Oh, there's one thing I want to ask:
                I have a negative number for Zmin in the M208 S1.
                Now, when I home Z, the homed height is set to -2 or whatever I set in M208.
                I haven't found the right way to compensate that other than overwriting it with G92 Z0.

                Does it matter if my G31 Z-probe definition is before or after M208?

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti @o_lampe
                  last edited by

                  @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                  Now, when I home Z, the homed height is set to -2 or whatever I set in M208.

                  post you home script

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt
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                    M574 X Y S3 - where are the values for X and Y specify the location of the end stop?

                    You have specified the Z trigger height in G31 as 0. Usually a capacitive probe triggers a few mm off the surface.

                    Also capacitive probes can be slow to respond so you might need to change the F value in M558.

                    When you home any axis the position is set to the axis min/max based on the axis parameter in M574.

                    You have specified that the end stop of Z is at the low end so it gets set to Z min which you have as -2.

                    Why do you have Z min as -2?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • o_lampeundefined
                      o_lampe @Veti
                      last edited by o_lampe

                      @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                      @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                      Now, when I home Z, the homed height is set to -2 or whatever I set in M208.

                      post you home script

                      G91
                      G29 S2
                      G1 S1 Z-300 F800
                      G1  Z5 F800
                      G1 S1 Z-10
                      ;G92  Z0.0
                      G90
                      ;G29 S1
                      
                      
                      
                      

                      What does it mean, when DWC is giving me a warning about Z=0 datum isn't set everytime i load the heightmap?
                      Is it trying to do that, when it crashes against the leadscrew?
                      I've made two short videos to show what happens, but I'm not sure when I find the nerve to upload them to u-tube.

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by Veti

                        that is not a home script. as it disregards any endstop

                        nevermind. it used the old S syntax.

                        that is the reason why its set to S-1
                        when the endstop is triggered the axis is set to the endstop position.
                        with a G30 this will not happen as this sets the current positon to z=0

                        that would also get rid of the Z=0 datum message.

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                        • o_lampeundefined
                          o_lampe @Veti
                          last edited by

                          @Veti
                          To be clear, it uses the Z-probe as endstop.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by

                            that is wrong.

                            try a default homez.

                            ; homez.g
                            ; called to home the Z axis
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.2 on Wed Jan 20 2021 13:31:39 GMT+0100 (Central European Standard Time)
                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G90 ; absolute positioning
                            G1 X15 Y15 F6000 ; go to first probe point
                            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                            ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                            ;G91 ; relative positioning
                            ;G1 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            ;G90 ; absolute positioning

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                            • o_lampeundefined
                              o_lampe @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                              with a G30 this will not happen as this sets the current positon to z=0
                              that would also get rid of the Z=0 datum message.

                              So, I should use G30 instead of G1 S1?

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti @o_lampe
                                last edited by Veti

                                @o_lampe

                                yes

                                you REALLY need to use a standard config that is generated by the config tool.

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                                • o_lampeundefined
                                  o_lampe @Veti
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                                  @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                                  @o_lampe

                                  yes

                                  you REALLY need to use a standard config that is generated by the config tool.

                                  I started filling out the config wizard, but then got stuck with the stepper settings. I would have to copy my existing config settings into the wizard, so what is it good for?
                                  I'd just copy any possible mistake into the new file, if there's any...

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti @o_lampe
                                    last edited by Veti

                                    @o_lampe
                                    well it would have generated a correct homing script for once.
                                    and as i said it will make the migration to version 3 easier

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                                    • o_lampeundefined
                                      o_lampe
                                      last edited by o_lampe

                                      @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                                      G1 X15 Y15 F6000 ; go to first probe point

                                      The head moves to that first probe point and then throws an error insufficient axes homed
                                      As always I homed X/Y before homeZ with G92 X0 Y0.

                                      Do I really have to install endstops for X/Y axis?
                                      I never needed them for my CNC. I just parked the toolhead at 0,0 before I switched off and went the G92 way to start...
                                      I checked the homeX/Y files. They all look similar to the one I originally posted. (I had this SD-card backup from my CNC machine)

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        the G30 command give you insufficient axis homed?

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @o_lampe
                                          last edited by

                                          @o_lampe said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                                          As always I homed X/Y before homeZ with G92 X0 Y0.

                                          The would work IF the actual positions of X and Y were zero. How do you know they are?

                                          Do I really have to install endstops for X/Y axis?

                                          No - you can use sensor-less homing.

                                          I don't care for that myself. To me using physical end stop sensors for homing is like stopping your car using the brakes. Sensor-less homing seems like stopping your car by running into the car in front of you. 😉


                                          As to using G30: did you read the docs on what each variant of G30 does?

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • o_lampeundefined
                                            o_lampe @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Veti said in G30 S-1 is giving me heart stitches:

                                            the G30 command give you insufficient axis homed?

                                            No, the macro doesn't run G30 because of the error message.

                                            I used jumpers on X/Y endstops and defined them as active high
                                            When I ask M119 it reports X/Y at min endstops. Now I should be able to use the homeall macro. But it stops after the same line as above mentioned.

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