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    dc42 administrators
    last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 10:26

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    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      jay_s_uk
      last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 10:29

      well done!
      I take it that means it will be part of 3.3?

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        weed2all @dc42
        last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 11:11

        @dc42 awsome!

        https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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          dc42 administrators @jay_s_uk
          last edited by dc42 25 Jan 2021, 12:25

          @jay_s_uk said in This should please some Duet 3 users:

          well done!
          I take it that means it will be part of 3.3?

          Yes, it will be in the first official 3.3beta.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            JadonM
            last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 18:33

            I'm considering buying a Duet3 and admit I'm feeling a bit dumb right now. Does someone mind enlightening me on what's new here?

            Thanks a lot!

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              fcwilt @JadonM
              last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 18:36

              @JadonM said in This should please some Duet 3 users:

              I'm considering buying a Duet3 and admit I'm feeling a bit dumb right now. Does someone mind enlightening me on what's new here?

              Thanks a lot!

              Hi,

              Do you mean in the hardware, firmware or both?

              I recently purchased two Duet 3 Mini 5 boards - highly recommended.

              In the past my "goto" setup was a Duet 2 WiFi main board along with a Duex 5 expansion board.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                JadonM @fcwilt
                last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 18:39

                @fcwilt said in This should please some Duet 3 users:

                Do you mean in the hardware, firmware or both?

                I meant with the software - what David's screenshot is highlighting.

                Your opinion is encouraging. I have a few printers running Maestros and I need to convert another one to either a Mini 5+ or Maestro.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @JadonM
                  last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 18:44

                  @JadonM I believe he is highlighting the fact that tool board heaters can now be auto tuned. Previously only heaters connected to the main board could be tuned.

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    JadonM @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 18:45

                    @Phaedrux said in This should please some Duet 3 users:

                    @JadonM I believe he is highlighting the fact that tool board heaters can now be auto tuned. Previously only heaters connected to the main board could be tuned.

                    Thanks! That's what I was wanting to know. And yes, that is great news!

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                      fcwilt @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 18:49

                      @Phaedrux said in This should please some Duet 3 users:

                      @JadonM I believe he is highlighting the fact that tool board heaters can now be auto tuned. Previously only heaters connected to the main board could be tuned.

                      I was wondering what he was talking about.

                      Thanks.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        matt3o @dc42
                        last edited by matt3o 25 Jan 2021, 18:56

                        @dc42 you tease! release it already! 😄

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                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 19:23

                          I have a couple of bug fixes to RRF to do before the 3.3beta1 release.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            Nuramori
                            last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 08:42

                            Yay!!! I’m looking forward to this! My ground up extruder has been working like a champ, and the only final bit of refinement is the pid work.

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                              matt3o @Nuramori
                              last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 10:14

                              @Nuramori to be fair it's easy easy enough to manual tune it... even though the second C parameter doesn't seem to be working in the current version

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                                dc42 administrators @matt3o
                                last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 10:16

                                @matt3o said in This should please some Duet 3 users:

                                @Nuramori to be fair it's easy easy enough to manual tune it... even though the second C parameter doesn't seem to be working in the current version

                                Correct, heater feedforward is not implemented in 3.2, but it is in the forthcoming 3.3beta.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  Nuramori @matt3o
                                  last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 15:42

                                  @matt3o I know. I’ve done it before. I’m just being lazy :). Rewiring just for a pid is a pita on my machine.

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                                    matt3o @Nuramori
                                    last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 15:45

                                    @Nuramori not sure we are talking about the same thing. you can do manual tuning (without rewiring) directly on the tooldboard. You basically do with pen and paper what the pid tuning does automatically. I agree having the procedure automated it's better, but I guess I miss more the feedforward than the autotuning.

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                                      Nuramori @matt3o
                                      last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 15:48

                                      @matt3o oh then I’m definitely too lazy to do paper and pencil work. ! Lol.

                                      Actually I’d do it but I’m not really in a rush atm. Dave and the team have been doing yeomans work and I can wait. Tbh the printing I’ve gotten on the current pid variables work fine for what I’ve needed. It’s more academic to see what the changes do with the new algorithms.

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                                        beachtec
                                        last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 15:48

                                        @dc42 Thank you! Looking forward to that feature, I never wanted to get good at PID loop tuning 🙂 lol

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                                          beachtec @matt3o
                                          last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 15:51

                                          @matt3o I see your point; it is not a very fast process and it is worthwhile to know how to tune a PID loop 🙂

                                          Some people just want to build machines and that might be a nice feature for them. The algorithm looks like it performs pretty well...

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