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Smart effector for delta printers
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    loic
    last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 14:29 3 Aug 2017, 14:28

    @Dougal1957:

    The PCB Effector with Nimble and mounting adaptor plus custom E3D V6 comes in at 159 grammes.

    Don't know how the Flex would fit TBH the mounting for the custom heatsink is 3x M3 holes on a 18mm PCD which would be tight.

    http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/dougal1957/DSC_0117_zps5zgaq1gs.jpg

    Right time to go put it back on the printer

    Doug

    where is the fan for the print piece?
    we need one to have good quality print.

    i agree the nimble is top notch but if i need to buy everything i will have for 280e only for the head..110euro for arm+rod kit+ 60euro for pcb+100 with shpping cost for nimble..it s a lot expansive
    it s almost the price for my anycubic i3 mega only for parts..

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      Dougal1957
      last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 14:34

      I hav'nt included the part fan as I use the Berdair system

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        DjDemonD
        last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 14:40

        That's a nice feature being able to disconnect it easily, due to the magnets and the electrical couplings used. Is there one connector for the whole effector, or multiple connectors?

        Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
        www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
        PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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          Zesty_Lykle
          last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 17:44 3 Aug 2017, 14:44

          OK, new adapter is available.
          This adapter is mounted onto the PCB using 6.6 mm tall standoffs. The PCB has 3 holes of 2.9 mm diameter and the adapter has space for 3 M2.5 bolts that go through the standoffs.

          The bottom of the adapter sits on top of the hot end and has a 4mm opening that is 5 mm deep. This hole is for the PTFE tube. It locks the tube into the hot end, so that there is no need for the collet.

          edit: corrected the standoff length.

          https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2453322

          Lykle
          Design, make and enjoy life

          Co Creator of the Zesty Nimble

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            jannisj
            last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 16:01

            @dc42:

            Bear in mind that to use the Nimble with the production effector, you will need a different adaptor compared to the prototype that Doug used. The new heatsink doesn't come with the threaded collar that the old one did, instead there is a shorter threaded section and a M12 fine pitch half nut and washer. OTOH the effector now has 3 additional 2.9mm holes at 120 degree intervals on a 17mm radius.

            Damn, I ordered the adapter from shapeways last weekend..

            Hopefully they are able to cancel the order

            -Jannis

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              jannisj
              last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 16:05 3 Aug 2017, 16:03

              @Zesty_Lykle:

              OK, new adapter is available.
              This adapter is mounted onto the PCB using 7.4 mm tall standoffs. The PCB has 3 holes of 2.9 mm diameter and the adapter has space for 3 M2.5 bolts that go through the standoffs.

              The bottom of the adapter sits on top of the hot end and has a 4mm opening that is 5 mm deep. This hole is for the PTFE tube. It locks the tube into the hot end, so that there is no need for the collet.

              https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2453322

              Will this be available from shapeways too?
              I ordered the Nimble today (and already got the tracking number)

              -Jannis

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                Dougal1957
                last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 16:19

                DJ there are 2 connectors on it a 8 way single row for thesensors etc and a 3x2 for heater fan and thermistors/temp sensor it took me about 3 minutes to take it of the machine for the photo

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                  olee
                  last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 16:29

                  Hello. It's my first message in this forum but I has been reading it for a few month. Sorry for my english it's not my native language. I'm going to build my first delta 3D printer based on David's Kossel XL. I've got almost all main mechanical parts: extrusions, buildplate, heater, stepper motors etc. Now I'm waiting for the PCB effector to order it with electronics (Duet an so on). On the way to me is the Nimble extruder which I want to pair with the effector. Reading this thread I got sure that the adaptor from shapeways allow me to do that (obviously can't print it myself). But now I see that I need a new version of the adaptor. So it is a question. Can I order this new adaptor from shapeways right now or should I wait some time before this version will be available there? Thanks in advance.
                  Oleg

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                    Dougal1957
                    last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 16:45

                    Yes

                    https://www.shapeways.com/product/62MB3QZJ7/nimble-mount-base-for-smart-effector?optionId=62810434

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                      olee
                      last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 16:50

                      @Dougal1957:

                      Yes

                      https://www.shapeways.com/product/62MB3QZJ7/nimble-mount-base-for-smart-effector?optionId=62810434

                      That is a new one is the same as the old adaptor except it needs to use 7.4mm stands that I should make by myself?

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                        Dougal1957
                        last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 16:56 3 Aug 2017, 16:53

                        it is quite a bit different to the old one although it may look the same and the stand offs can be purchased tho wether you will get 7.4 mm ones I am not sure but 10 would do you would just have to extend the PTFE Tube a bit further I think check ebay for standoffs.

                        Found some 8mm long ones here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M3-M4-M5-M6-M8-Nylon-plastic-spacers-standoff-washers/282477022050?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D757a377c307d47cf806cde39a5736fa8%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272505748740 you will also need some m2.5 screws and nuts probably around 20mm long screws should do I think

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                          olee
                          last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:01

                          @Dougal1957:

                          it is quite a bit different to the old one although it may look the same and the stand offs can be purchased tho wether you will get 7.4 mm ones I am not sure but 10 would do you would just have to extend the PTFE Tube a bit further I think check ebay for standoffs

                          Thank you! It is just not obvious that the link points to a new version of adaptor as it looks much the same as the old one that I was ready to order before read las posts in this thread. So I will order this right now and if I got it right I can use standard bronze or plastic standoffs that used for PCB mounting. Thanks one more!
                          Oleg

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                            Dougal1957
                            last edited by 8 Mar 2017, 17:29 3 Aug 2017, 17:28

                            just hold off for a bit Lykle is still working on it with input from me as well.

                            He is adding the standoffs as part of the print we just need to get the hight correct first?

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                              olee
                              last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:32

                              I think M3 screws make the job better. 2.9mm hole diameter is exact size of external dia of M3 thread so it seems that David chose this size for precize positioning with M3 screws, IMHO.

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                                Dougal1957
                                last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:37

                                the fact that the PTFE Tube is locked in the bottom of the adaptor should locate it adequately

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                                  Zesty_Lykle
                                  last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 17:55

                                  OK, after some work, and a nice discussion with Doug, I have wrapped up the design for the adapter.

                                  It now features a nice set of integrated legs, 6.6 mm long as we want to make sure we do not bend the PCB when mounting the adapter. No idea if it will hinder the working of the sensor embedded in the PCB.

                                  So the Shapeways model is now complete and ready.
                                  The Thingiverse page holds the 2 models, the legless one and the legged one. (If you look at the adapter standing there you will realise why I am calling it the Grand Piano adapter)

                                  Shapeways http://shpws.me/OPLc
                                  Thingiverse https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2453322

                                  Lykle
                                  Design, make and enjoy life

                                  Co Creator of the Zesty Nimble

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                                    olee
                                    last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:03

                                    @Dougal1957:

                                    the fact that the PTFE Tube is locked in the bottom of the adaptor should locate it adequately

                                    Precision could not be much. BTW I ordered the adaptor and it could be seen small feet on bottom of the adaptor onat the picture on the order status page. So it's possiblly no standoffs are needed.

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                                      Dougal1957
                                      last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:16

                                      yes indeed that is correct precise mount is important but the tube will locate it centrally anyway.

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                                        olee
                                        last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:24

                                        @Dougal1957:

                                        yes indeed that is correct precise mount is important but the tube will locate it centrally anyway.

                                        OK, you won. Your advices help me make another step building my delta so thanks anyway.

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                                          A Former User
                                          last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 18:24

                                          I think the Nimble is the way to go on a Delta, and after my aborted fiasco with the Distech Automation 2-1 effort im going with a nimble dual on my FT-5 too 🙂 🙂 🙂

                                          I am impatient now !!!!!

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