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    PaulHew @PaulHew
    last edited by 17 May 2021, 23:05

    @paulhew
    Everything was working, no errors in the log.
    I homed it as I was going to try an extrude.
    Thought I had a block in the hotend, then noticed the motor seemed loose.
    Released the bmg and pushed the filament through.
    Touched the motor and burnt my fingers.
    Apparently I am running too many amps even though it is rated @1amp ??

    As requested

    M122

    m122
    === Diagnostics ===
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3RC2 (2021-05-11 14:55:40) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus Ethernet (standalone mode)
    Board ID: Q595J-A396U-D65J0-40KMD-2403Z-R2K02
    Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (20 max)
    === RTOS ===
    Static ram: 102476
    Dynamic ram: 101052 of which 0 recycled
    Never used RAM 40176, free system stack 194 words
    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,26.0%,243) ETHERNET(notifyWait,0.1%,576) HEAT(delaying,0.0%,338) Move(notifyWait,0.1%,338) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,943) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,371) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,341) TMC(notifyWait,0.7%,115) MAIN(running,71.9%,426) IDLE(ready,0.4%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,266), total 100.0%
    Owned mutexes:
    === Platform ===
    Last reset 00:00:33 ago, cause: power up
    Last software reset at 2021-05-17 23:16, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 36968, slot 0
    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
    Error status: 0x00
    Aux0 errors 0,0,0
    Aux1 errors 0,0,0
    MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 33499, completed 33497, timed out 0, errs 0
    Step timer max interval 751
    MCU temperature: min 17.9, current 22.7, max 22.7
    Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 23.9, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
    Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
    Driver 0: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 10, reads 1714, writes 10, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 1: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 9, reads 1714, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 2: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 9, reads 1714, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 9, reads 1714, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 9, reads 1714, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 5: position 0, assumed not present
    Driver 6: position 0, assumed not present
    Date/time: 2021-05-18 00:00:44
    Cache data hit count 58213471
    Slowest loop: 6.77ms; fastest: 0.12ms
    === Storage ===
    Free file entries: 10
    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
    SD card longest read time 3.2ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
    === Move ===
    DMs created 83, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
    === MainDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
    === AuxDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
    === Heat ===
    Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
    Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
    === GCodes ===
    Segments left: 0
    Movement lock held by null
    HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
    Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
    File is idle in state(s) 0
    USB is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux is idle in state(s) 0
    Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
    Queue is idle in state(s) 0
    LCD is idle in state(s) 0
    SBC is idle in state(s) 0
    Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
    Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
    Code queue is empty.
    === CAN ===
    Messages queued 297, send timeouts 295, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 17 (min 17)
    Last cancelled message type 4514 dest 127
    === Network ===
    Slowest loop: 7.41ms; fastest: 0.03ms
    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
    - Ethernet -
    State: active
    Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
    Socket states: 2 2 2 2 2 0 0 0

    Config.g

    ; For Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini 5+
    ; General preferences
    G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M550 P"Disco V0.1" ; set printer name
    M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode
    ; Network
    M552 P192.168.0.8 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
    M553 P255.255.255.0
    M554 P192.168.0.1
    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
    ; Drives
    M569 P0.0 S1 D3 V0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
    M569 P0.1 S1 D3 V0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
    M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
    M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
    M584 X0.1 Y0.0 Z0.2 E0.3 ; set drive mapping
    M350 X32 Y32 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
    M566 X300.00 Y300.00 Z60.00 E400.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z900.00 E3000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X2500.00 Y2500.00 Z1200.00 E4000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X425 Y425 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
    M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z400.00 ;E420.00 ; set steps per mm
    M92 E730
    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
    M208 X120 Y120 Z120 S0 ; set axis maxima
    ; Endstops
    M574 X2 S1 P"io4.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin io4.in
    M574 Y2 S1 P"io5.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin io5.in
    M574 Z1 S1 P"io6.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin io6.in
    ; Z-Probe
    M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
    M557 X15:90 Y15:90 S20 ; define mesh grid
    ; Bed Heater
    M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" A"Heated Bed" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
    M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
    ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M307 H0 B0 R1.278 C262.7 D4.55 S0.60 V23.9
    ;M307 H0 B0 R1.266 C265.2 D6.02 S0.50 V23.9
    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
    ; Dragon
    ;M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
    M308 s1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" A"Dragon" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8
    M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
    M307 H1 B0 R2.147 C176.0 D4.74 S1.00 V23.9
    ;M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
    M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"out3" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 C"Part Fan" S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M950 F1 C"out5" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
    M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    ;M106 P1 C"Tool Fan" S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M950 F2 C"out4" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out5 and set its frequency
    M106 P2 C"Cooling" S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 2 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" A"Chamber[C]" T100000 B4138
    ; Tools
    M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
    ;Bed Levelling
    M671 X60:5:115 Y5:115:115
    ; Miscellaneous
    ;M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
    M575 P1 S2 B57600 ; enable support for BTT
    T0 ; select first tool

    RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
    Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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      PaulHew @PaulHew
      last edited by 17 May 2021, 23:10

      @paulhew 12v fan for tool is working correctly. ie turns on and off

      RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
      Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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        Phaedrux Moderator @PaulHew
        last edited by 17 May 2021, 23:23

        @paulhew said in Mini Duet 5+ - Part fan runs continuously:

        Apparently I am running too many amps even though it is rated @1amp ??

        Possibly? What is the actual motor? Spec sheet? Maybe do a test with lower amps and see how low you can go.

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          Phaedrux Moderator @PaulHew
          last edited by 17 May 2021, 23:24

          @paulhew said in Mini Duet 5+ - Part fan runs continuously:

          @paulhew 12v fan for tool is working correctly. ie turns on and off

          So which fan is not working?

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            PaulHew @Phaedrux
            last edited by 17 May 2021, 23:27

            @phaedrux
            LDO-36STH17-1004AHG-MM-VRN-RevA.pdf
            Specs on the motor.

            Hopefully Tony can fix it, if something on the board is broken.

            RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
            Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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              PaulHew @Phaedrux
              last edited by 17 May 2021, 23:39

              @phaedrux The 2 part cooling fans being fed by 24v are the ones that are permanently on now.

              RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
              Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by 18 May 2021, 03:46

                @paulhew said in Mini Duet 5+ - Part fan runs continuously:

                @phaedrux The 2 part cooling fans being fed by 24v are the ones that are permanently on now.

                Ok, so when you say the tool fan is working, you mean the hotend heatsink fan?

                Those 2 part cooling fans are wired to the out3 pins in series? Parallel?

                And just to confirm, the extruder is still extruding ok?

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                  PaulHew
                  last edited by 18 May 2021, 08:31

                  @phaedrux The hotend heatsink fan is running on a 12V port "Out5", obviously I moved the jumper.
                  The 2 part cooling fans are wired together into the same port, "Out5" both sit on a 24v output. I think you would call it parallel. (Had to google it)
                  Extruder is fine.
                  Speaking to a friend, regardless of what the spec is of that LDO motor, 800ma is too high for it and should be running 400ma~. He runs his at 0.33a in Klipper values.

                  I think something has happened to the board as the fans were working correctly from DWC before I got around to my first prints.

                  RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                  Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                    T3P3Tony administrators @PaulHew
                    last edited by 18 May 2021, 08:47

                    @paulhew what are the two fans you are running in parallel as print cooling fans?

                    What happens if you connected them to out 4 instead of out 3

                    You need to change this line of your config.g from:

                    M950 F0 C"out3" Q500
                    

                    to

                    M950 F0 C"out4" Q500
                    

                    to test that. also comment out:

                    ;M950 F2 C"out4" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                    ;M106 P2 C"Cooling" S1 H1 T45

                    As from the pictures and your config you don't appear to be using the cooling fan?

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                      droftarts administrators
                      last edited by 18 May 2021, 08:48

                      @paulhew I think the LDO spec sheet is wrong, and it’s a 500mA motor. I have the same motor in an Orbiter extruder, and they say to run it at less than 500mA; I run mine at 450mA. See https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4223085

                      What specification are the cooling fans? Running fans in parallel means that they draw the current of both fans together (in series the voltage is halved, so they run slower).

                      Can you take a good clear picture of the fan MOSFETs between the fan headers?

                      Ian

                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                        PaulHew @T3P3Tony
                        last edited by 18 May 2021, 08:50

                        @t3p3tony No, I have not got round to installing the cooling fans, the Mini is open to free air.
                        Will try your suggestions. Thank you.

                        RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                        Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                          PaulHew @droftarts
                          last edited by 18 May 2021, 08:58

                          @droftarts Damn! That info was on Fermio's website.
                          They are just 2 small GDSTIME 3010 blower fans 0.05a @ 24v

                          I am sorry I do not know what a mosfet is. So took 2 pictures.20210518_095544.jpg 20210518_095559.jpg

                          Thanks Ian and Tony

                          Regards,
                          Paul

                          RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                          Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                            PaulHew
                            last edited by PaulHew 18 May 2021, 09:05

                            Interesting. Did as Tony asked and moved the fans to "Out4"
                            Have control again!
                            Do each of the fan outputs have individual mosfets things now?

                            So it is something relevant to Out3 board side.

                            Just plugged the fans back in with out changing config and they are running full chat.

                            P.

                            RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                            Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                              T3P3Tony administrators @PaulHew
                              last edited by 18 May 2021, 09:18

                              @paulhew yeah each output has its own mosfet.

                              What fans are you using?

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                                PaulHew @T3P3Tony
                                last edited by 18 May 2021, 09:19

                                @t3p3tony They are just 2 small GDSTIME 3010 blower fans 0.05a @ 24v

                                RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                                Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                                  T3P3Tony administrators @PaulHew
                                  last edited by 18 May 2021, 09:22

                                  @paulhew ok yes 0.1A '24V for both together is fine. I see its a 0.5 board and we did have some issues with mosfet soldering on those boards so it could be that (although odd it was working before).

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                                    PaulHew @T3P3Tony
                                    last edited by PaulHew 18 May 2021, 09:32

                                    @t3p3tony I do not mind sending it back and paying for it to be fixed.
                                    Not one for messing people around. I agree it was working, so no dispute there hence why I am offering to pay.

                                    I have heard of mosfet's during my time on the forum, do not know what one looks like.

                                    It did get hot in that little chamber so am going to go through the wiring to make sure all is good. It was hot enough to shrink the heat shrink cable labels near the extruder!

                                    Appreciate the help as usual gents.
                                    Regards,
                                    Paul.

                                    RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                                    Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                                      T3P3Tony administrators @PaulHew
                                      last edited by 18 May 2021, 10:04

                                      @paulhew drop me a line tony@duet3d.com and we can take it from there.

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                                        NexxCat @T3P3Tony
                                        last edited by 18 May 2021, 13:21

                                        @t3p3tony Sorry to intrude, but does the Driver 0 TMC2209 look odd to you? Looking at 2 separate photos, the text line above GERMANY looks odd on that one driver.

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                                          droftarts administrators @NexxCat
                                          last edited by 18 May 2021, 13:56

                                          @nexxcat Yes, there does look like there's a hole burnt into it. @PaulHew does Driver 0 work okay? Is that where the extruder motor is connected?

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                                          Ian

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