Duet3D Logo Duet3D
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order
    • Register
    • Login

    Thermistor,PT100, PT1000

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved
    Duet Hardware and wiring
    5
    21
    1.2k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Auréundefined
      Auré
      last edited by Auré

      Hello,

      My english is not perfect sorry, I read many post and I search on the Duet web site for read temperature on the nozzle and the bed.

      I have toolboard v1.0 and Duet 3mb 6hc.
      I need a thermistor pt100 or pt1000 please?
      Because when I bought the extruder, it is sold with thermistor Semitec 104NT-4-R025H42G it is 100K.
      The bed Keenovo it is sold with NTC 100k.

      Another question when I configure the firmware with rrf config tool what can I need to choose in the menu because there is five section with some choice.

      Thank you very much

      Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

      If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
      A quote from Jacques Rouxel

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • PaulHewundefined
        PaulHew
        last edited by

        I think I understand your request.

        Sometimes it is easier to create the base config in rrf, then change it later by editing config.g

        This is my config for the Keenovo heated mat

        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" A"Heated Bed" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
        M950 H0 C"out0" T0                               ; create bed heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
        ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M307 H0 R0.853 C250.9 D5.98 S0.60                ; tuned to 50degrees - 28/3/21
        M140 H0                                          ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S120                                     ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
        
        

        I will see if I can find the other post about the PT100 / PT1000

        P

        RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
        Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Auréundefined
          Auré
          last edited by Auré

          I believe understand I need RTD interface board with MAX31865 chip on the Duet 3 for the bed because the NTC 100K is in the silicone of bed.

          And now in the rff config tool I need chose in the between this four elements.

          pt100.jpg

          But I don't know which chooses.

          And For the toolboard I need one PT1000.

          What do you think?

          Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

          If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
          A quote from Jacques Rouxel

          jay_s_ukundefined droftartsundefined 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @Auré
            last edited by

            @auré pt100 are not supported on the toolboard. So it's either a standard thermistor or a pt1000

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

            Auréundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Auréundefined
              Auré @jay_s_uk
              last edited by Auré

              @jay_s_uk Hi Jay, thanks I bought a PT100 Daughter Board for the Duet 3 because the NTC 100K is in the silicone of Keenovo and I search a pt1000 for my extruder.

              Do you know where to connect the PT100 Daughter Board on the Duet 3 ?

              Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

              If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
              A quote from Jacques Rouxel

              droftartsundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @Auré
                last edited by

                @auré Your bed (NTC 100k) and hot end (Semitec 104NT-4-R025H42G) temperature sensors are both thermistors, though slightly different. Both are supported by Duet and RepRapfirmware.

                Use these settings for your bed thermistor:

                M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950          ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                

                Settings for your hot end:

                M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
                

                You can change to a PT100 or PT1000 if you want, see this page for a comparison of temperature sensors: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Temperature_sensors
                For a PT100 (which you don't have) you do need a daughterboard.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • droftartsundefined
                  droftarts administrators @Auré
                  last edited by

                  @auré NTC 100K is a thermistor, NOT a PT100

                  Ian

                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

                  Auréundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • Auréundefined
                    Auré @droftarts
                    last edited by

                    @droftarts Thank you I test tomorrow If I can, and I tell you the result 🙂

                    Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                    If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                    A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • Auréundefined
                      Auré
                      last edited by Auré

                      Hello, so I have this on my config.g but the toolboard don't see the thermistor 😕

                      M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
                      M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                      M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                      I have chek the thermistor with a multimeter and it's ok

                      Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                      If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                      A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • Auréundefined
                        Auré
                        last edited by

                        I found this

                        I change a command line with:

                        M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8

                        But don't work

                        Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                        If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                        A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Can you send M115 and M115 B121 and confirm that the firmware version on both the mainboard and toolboard match?

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                          Auréundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Auréundefined
                            Auré @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @phaedrux said in Thermistor,PT100, PT1000:

                            M115 B121

                            Yep:

                            m115.jpg

                            Console:

                            m115 console.jpg

                            M115 B121:

                            m115 b121.jpg

                            Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                            If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                            A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                            jay_s_ukundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • jay_s_ukundefined
                              jay_s_uk @Auré
                              last edited by

                              @auré you're running out of sync firmware. Try running M997 B121

                              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

                              Auréundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Auréundefined
                                Auré @jay_s_uk
                                last edited by Auré

                                @jay_s_uk said in Thermistor,PT100, PT1000:

                                M997 B121

                                Ok I send M997 B121:

                                update tool.jpg

                                The thermistore not work

                                I would like stop the fan and I have new error:

                                fan.jpg

                                Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                                If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                                A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Auréundefined
                                  Auré
                                  last edited by Auré

                                  For the fan I found this post

                                  I add F1:

                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 F1 ; define tool 0

                                  And now the fan control work.

                                  But not the thermistor.

                                  I don't know why but now the thermistor on the toolboard work.....

                                  I have only add F1

                                  Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                                  If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                                  A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                                  jay_s_ukundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk @Auré
                                    last edited by

                                    @auré post your full config and send M115 B121 to confirm 3.2.2 is on the toolboard

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

                                    Phaedruxundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @jay_s_uk
                                      last edited by

                                      @jay_s_uk said in Thermistor,PT100, PT1000:

                                      send M115 B121 to confirm 3.2.2 is on the toolboard

                                      Looks like he is now.

                                      Full config.g would be nice.

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • Auréundefined
                                        Auré
                                        last edited by

                                        I post tomorrow the config.g thank you for your help good night 🙂

                                        Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                                        If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                                        A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • Auréundefined
                                          Auré
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello,

                                          ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                                          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                          ;
                                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Fri Jun 04 2021 20:14:20 GMT+0200 (heure d’été d’Europe centrale)

                                          ; General preferences
                                          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                          M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
                                          M552 S1
                                          M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

                                          ; Drives
                                          G4 S1 ;wait for expansion boards to start
                                          M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                          M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                          M569 P0.3 S0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                          M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                          M569 P0.5 S0 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                                          M569 P121.0 S1 ; physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
                                          M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 E121.0 ; set drive mapping
                                          M671 X-30,109:171.1:372.309 Y-10,413:367,797:-10,413 S50
                                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                          M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z800.00 E335.40 ; set steps per mm
                                          M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z30.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                          M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z1800.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                          M201 X1600.00 Y1600.00 Z100.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                          M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1200 E840 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                          ; Axis Limits
                                          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                          M208 X365 Y365 Z335 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                          ; Endstops
                                          M574 X1 S1 P"121.io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin 121.io1.in
                                          M574 Y1 S1 P"io0.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io0.in
                                          M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

                                          ; Z-Probe
                                          M950 S0 C"121.io0.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                          M558 P9 C"^121.io0.in" H15 F120 T9000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                          G31 P500 X3 Y-41 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                          M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                                          ; Heaters
                                          M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                          M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                          M143 H0 S100 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 100C
                                          M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
                                          M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
                                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                          ; Fans
                                          M950 F0 C"121.out1" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out1 and set its frequency
                                          M106 P0 S0 H T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                          M950 F1 C"121.out2" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
                                          M106 P1 S1 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                          ; Tools
                                          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 F1 ; define tool 0
                                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                          ; Custom settings are not defined

                                          ; Miscellaneous
                                          M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                          M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

                                          Reprap core XY, Ender 3 upgraded.

                                          If you keep trying, you'll eventually succeed. So: the more you fail, the more likely you are to succeed.
                                          A quote from Jacques Rouxel

                                          jay_s_ukundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                                            jay_s_uk @Auré
                                            last edited by

                                            @auré said in Thermistor,PT100, PT1000:

                                            ; Drives
                                            G4 S1 ;wait for expansion boards to start

                                            can you try increasing the G4 S1 to G4 S4 to give it a bit longer for the toolboard to be ready?

                                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

                                            Auréundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA