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    jumpedwithbothfeet
    last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet 17 Jun 2021, 09:44

    Morning all, I seem to be having some an issue with my printer mainly the print head stalling during movement (hot or cold) and baby stepping not working! before I completely rip my printer apart could someone please take a look at the snap diagnostics and maybe point me in a direction, driver 2 (z motor) seems suspicious to me, but i'm unsure if its my board, motor or a bad bearing!

    17/06/2021, 10:19:53 M122
    === Diagnostics ===
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.2.2 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 (SBC mode)
    Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKDG-3SS6L-KB12H
    Used output buffers: 10 of 40 (19 max)
    === RTOS ===
    Static ram: 149788
    Dynamic ram: 63352 of which 72 recycled
    Never used RAM 145620, free system stack 127 words
    Tasks: Linux(ready,79) HEAT(blocked,297) CanReceiv(blocked,927) CanSender(blocked,352) CanClock(blocked,352) TMC(blocked,17) MAIN(running,720) IDLE(ready,19)
    Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
    === Platform ===
    Last reset 00:23:10 ago, cause: software
    Last software reset at 2021-06-17 09:56, reason: User, none spinning, available RAM 145620, slot 1
    Software reset code 0x0012 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00400000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task Linu Freestk 0 n/a
    Error status: 0x00
    Aux0 errors 0,0,0
    Aux1 errors 0,0,0
    MCU temperature: min 32.9, current 33.2, max 41.2
    Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
    12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0
    Driver 0: position 0, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/950
    Driver 1: position 0, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
    Driver 2: position 4062, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
    Driver 3: position 0, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/243
    Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 33570, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/191
    Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 33570, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/254
    Date/time: 2021-06-17 10:19:26
    Slowest loop: 156.96ms; fastest: 0.03ms
    === Storage ===
    Free file entries: 10
    SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
    SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
    === Move ===
    DMs created 125, maxWait 79993ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.072
    === MainDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 757, completed moves 757, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 7], CDDA state -1
    === AuxDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
    === Heat ===
    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
    === GCodes ===
    Segments left: 0
    Movement lock held by null
    HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
    Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
    File* is idle in state(s) 0
    USB is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux is idle in state(s) 0
    Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
    Queue is idle in state(s) 0
    LCD is idle in state(s) 0
    SBC is idle in state(s) 0
    Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
    Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
    Code queue is empty.
    === CAN ===
    Messages queued 5595, send timeouts 12547, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, free buffers 48
    === SBC interface ===
    State: 4, failed transfers: 0
    Last transfer: 3ms ago
    RX/TX seq numbers: 50245/50245
    SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
    Number of disconnects: 0, IAP RAM available 0x2c8a8
    Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
    === Duet Control Server ===
    Duet Control Server v3.2.2
    Code buffer space: 4096
    Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
    Full transfers per second: 36.21
    Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 3640/864

    config.g

    Thanks in advance
    Jim

    P.S have just updated the firmware after I posted this!

    6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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      jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
      last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 10:18

      @jumpedwithbothfeet is your babystepping issues around not being able to go lower than 0mm?
      That'll be because your M208 doesn't allow it
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
        last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 10:33

        @jay_s_uk AHAH yup that might be the cause, I'll have a play with the limits and cal my z height again! but that doesn't account for the YX movement stall, I've just taken a snap shot whilst it was stalling anything obvious you can see? it does tend to start stalling when the printer heater/s are up to temp so maybe a power issue?

        M122
        === Diagnostics ===
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.3 (2021-06-15 21:45:47) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 (SBC mode)
        Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKDG-3SS6L-KB12H
        Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (19 max)
        === RTOS ===
        Static ram: 150904
        Dynamic ram: 62760 of which 108 recycled
        Never used RAM 137564, free system stack 142 words
        Tasks: SBC(ready,5.3%,308) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,325) Move(notifyWait,0.1%,250) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,944) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,362) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,333) TMC(notifyWait,7.7%,59) MAIN(running,86.8%,922) IDLE(ready,0.0%,29), total 100.0%
        Owned mutexes: Telnet(MAIN)
        === Platform ===
        Last reset 00:08:32 ago, cause: software
        Last software reset at 2021-06-17 11:20, reason: User, none spinning, available RAM 137780, slot 2
        Software reset code 0x0012 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0044a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task SBC Freestk 0 n/a
        Error status: 0x00
        Aux0 errors 0,0,0
        Step timer max interval 323
        MCU temperature: min 33.0, current 34.5, max 41.3
        Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
        12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0
        Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/8/8, gc cycles 0
        Driver 0: position 18012, ok, reads 29208, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/295
        Driver 1: position 4828, ok, reads 29208, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
        Driver 2: position 5202, ok, reads 29208, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
        Driver 3: position 0, ok, reads 29209, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/234
        Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 29212, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
        Driver 5: position 0, ok, reads 29209, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/242
        Date/time: 2021-06-17 11:29:16
        Slowest loop: 179.82ms; fastest: 0.03ms
        === Storage ===
        Free file entries: 10
        SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
        SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
        === Move ===
        DMs created 125, maxWait 179338ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
        === MainDDARing ===
        Scheduled moves 1300, completed moves 1241, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 2], CDDA state 3
        === AuxDDARing ===
        Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
        === Heat ===
        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
        Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.7
        Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
        === GCodes ===
        Segments left: 12
        Movement lock held by null
        HTTP* is idle in state(s) 3 0, running macro
        Telnet* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
        File is idle in state(s) 0
        USB is idle in state(s) 0
        Aux is idle in state(s) 0
        Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
        Queue is idle in state(s) 0
        LCD is idle in state(s) 0
        SBC is idle in state(s) 0
        Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
        Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
        Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
        Code queue is empty.
        === CAN ===
        Messages queued 4634, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 49 (min 49), ts 2561/0/0
        Tx timeouts 0,55,2560,0,0,2016 last cancelled message type 30 dest 127

        === SBC interface ===
        State: 4, failed transfers: 0, checksum errors: 0
        Last transfer: 3ms ago
        RX/TX seq numbers: 18343/18343
        SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
        Disconnects: 0, timeouts: 0, IAP RAM available 0x2c83c
        Buffer RX/TX: 512/1224-0
        === Duet Control Server ===
        Duet Control Server v3.3.0
        HTTP:
        Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
        Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
        Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
        Buffered code: G3 X100 Y100 I25
        Buffered code: G3 X100 Y100 I25
        Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
        Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
        Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
        Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
        Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
        Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
        Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
        Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
        Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
        Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
        Buffered code: G3 X100 Y100 I25
        ==> 736 bytes
        Executing macro 0:/macros/Test files/Spiral, started by M98 P"0:/macros/Test files/Spiral"

        Next stack level
        Code buffer space: 2872
        Configured SPI speed: 8000000Hz
        Full transfers per second: 36.05, max wait times: 9.6ms/0.0ms
        Codes per second: 0.39
        Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 4007/832
        ok

        6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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          jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
          last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 10:34

          @jumpedwithbothfeet what motors do you have?

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
            last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 10:39

            @jay_s_uk Nema 17 (stepperonline) 1.8 degree 40mm in a coreXY config, I've just just tested each motor individually and they move absolutely fine but when they move together the hot end stalls and that was with the bed heater off.....

            6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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              jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
              last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 10:47

              @jumpedwithbothfeet do you have the actual part number of them? what speed are you moving them at when they're stalling?

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 10:49

                @jay_s_uk I've just turned off the printer and back on again repeated the test both motors work with no issue in both the tests I did, seems like its a power issue of some sort it that occurs after I heat my bed up, FYI I'm using two PSU's one 15amp 24v for the bed and one 14.6 amp 24v for the board.

                6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                  jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                  last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 10:57

                  @jay_s_uk the motors are -

                  17HS16 - 1604S - X1 stepper-online (taken upside down with my head under the heat bed!) running at 900mA

                  they stall anywhere from 20 - 167mm/s

                  I've now turned my bed on to 100 and repeated the test and they are working fine.....I've truly got no clue what's going on now

                  6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                    jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
                    last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 11:07

                    @jumpedwithbothfeet those motors are rated to 1.68 amp. the rule of thumb is to run them at 80% of the rated maximum, which would be 1344ma.
                    So I suggest running them at that.
                    Could you post a photo of your wiring?
                    I would've thought 15amp on both is more than capable (depending on bed size and amps requirement). I run one of my printers (not including the bed) off a 6amp 24v PSU

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                      last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 11:24

                      @jay_s_uk I've changed the current to 1300 for both the hot end sure does move quickly now lol, i'll continue to test and try to repeat the fault, the bed I'm using is from the ender 5 Plus so it is fairly large 15 amps is just enough to power it but not much overhead if I remember correctly.

                      I've included two poor pics of the wiring, the motor wires go straight to drivers and all are 1m or less and please remember this is a work in progress it'll be a lot neater when it's done!!

                      IMG_3514.jpg IMG_3513.jpg

                      6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                        jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet 17 Jun 2021, 11:54

                        @jay_s_uk so the fault is still there both stalling just at a faster speed!, bed to 100 then carried out my bed levelling macro which is -

                        G28
                        G32
                        G32
                        G29 S2
                        G29 S0

                        I then carried out a test file I made that moves the hot end around which is just -
                        G28 XY
                        G0 X100 Y100 F10000
                        G3 X100 Y100 I25
                        G3 X100 Y100 I25
                        G0 X10 Y10
                        G0 X100 Y100 F10000
                        G2 X100 Y100 I25
                        G2 X100 Y100 I25
                        G0 X10 Y10
                        (repeated over and over)

                        unfortunately I have to go to work now and wont be able to test more till the morning, if you have any ideas I'm all ears and thankyou for your help so far 🙂

                        Jim

                        6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                          dc42 administrators @jumpedwithbothfeet
                          last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 11:59

                          @jumpedwithbothfeet it may be easier for us to help if you post your config.g file.

                          As well as motor current being too low, another common cause of motors stalling is acceleration set too high. Acceleration is controlled by the M201 command in config.g.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            jumpedwithbothfeet @dc42
                            last edited by Phaedrux 18 Jun 2021, 04:52

                            @dc42 sorry I did attach it to the first post but it would of made more sense putting it at the top apologies so here is a fresh copy -

                            config.g

                            I have not played with the acceleration settings at all in config.g as my machine is nearly always in a state of flux! so I imagine they are stock settings for the firmware still

                            ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Mon Apr 06 2020 18:55:28 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                            ; General preferences
                            G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                            M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
                            M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode
                            M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; paneldue
                            ; Drives
                            M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                            M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                            M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                            M569 P0.3 S0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                            M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                            M569 P0.5 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                            M584 X0.3 Y0.5 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E0.4 ; set drive mapping
                            M671 X0:175:284 Y0:330:0 S10 ; Z leadscrews locations
                            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                            M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E812.6 ; set steps per mm
                            M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                            M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E3000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20 E5000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                            M906 X1300 Y1300 Z900 E900 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                            M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                            ; Axis Limits
                            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                            M208 X340 Y330 Z268 S0 ; set axis maxima
                            ; Endstops
                            M574 X1 S1 P"io4.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io4.in
                            M574 Y1 S1 P"io5.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io5.in
                            M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                            ; Z-Probe
                            M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for Mini IR
                            M558 P8 C"io7.in" H5 F120 T6000 R0.75 ; set Z probe type to Mini IR and the dive height + speeds
                            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z1.641 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                            M557 X50:320 Y40:300 S45:52 ; define mesh grid
                            ; Heaters
                            M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                            M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                            M143 H0 S130 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                            M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                            M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                            M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" Y"rtd-max31865" ; define temperature sensor number 1 as a PT100 on the first port of a temperature daughter
                            M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                            M143 H1 S350 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C
                            M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                            M308 S2 P"mcu-temp" Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp" ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                            M308 S3 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" A"Enclosure temp" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin temp1
                            ; Fans
                            ;M950 F5 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                            ;M106 P5 S0 H-1 C"servo" ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M950 F1 C"!out5+out5.tach" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                            M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Rear Fan" ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M950 F2 C"out6" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency (Rad Fan)
                            M106 P2 S1 H-1 C"Rad Fan" ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M950 F3 C"out8+out6.tach" ; create fan 3 on pin out5 and set its frequency (Cooling Pump)
                            M106 P3 S1 H-1 C"Cooling Pump" ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M950 F4 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 4 on pin out4 and set its frequency (case fan)
                            M106 P4 H2 T25 ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                            M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency (New parts fan)
                            M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Air Pump" ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            ;M950 S0 C"out9" ; assign GPIO port 0 to servo port, servo mode
                            ;M280 P0 S5 ; set 80deg servo position on GPIO port 0
                            ; Tools
                            M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 F1 ; define tool 0
                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                            ; Custom settings are not defined
                            M912 P0 S-7.9
                            ;M593 F40.5 ; cancel ringing at 40.5Hz
                            ; Miscellaneous
                            M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                            T0 ; select first tool

                            6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                              jumpedwithbothfeet @dc42
                              last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 08:44

                              @dc42 or anybody with any ideas for that matter! , I have been repeating the fault over and over both X and Y motors work independently but stall when used together so I cant see it being a mechanical issue so...

                              could the stepper motors or wiring to them be an issue will one drag down the other if there is some sort of mismatch?
                              would a board reset/fresh install be beneficial?

                              Thanks Jim

                              6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                jumpedwithbothfeet @jumpedwithbothfeet
                                last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet 18 Jun 2021, 09:46

                                Further update to my issue, I've stripped my top end apart, as a correction the motors installed are 17HS15-1504S-X1 (the 5's look like 6's) these are rated at 1.5 amp.

                                All coils measure approximately 2.3 ohms taking into account lead correction so within spec.
                                both motor leads tested with no breaks or high resistance found, and the crimps appear secure, one lead measures 102cm and the other 99cm, would 3 cm make any difference given they are running on different drivers?

                                my hot end moves freely on its rails and all my pulleys follow suit, I'm now thinking this is a board or firmware issue, I cant see any burnt or popped components on the board although it is still installed so I cant rule this out yet.

                                I've run P98 on my config and multiple M122 during faulting and after with nothing I can spot with my limited knowledge, is there any other diagnostic tests I can run?

                                Regards Jim

                                6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by Phaedrux 18 Jun 2021, 16:52

                                  I don't suppose you could post a video of the problem movement?

                                  It may also be helpful to temporarily setup to run the Duet in standalone mode without the Pi to help isolate the issue.

                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                    jumpedwithbothfeet @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 06:12

                                    @phaedrux, Morning well at least it is here 🙂 , I've just rebuilt the printer and I believe completely offloaded the 12v and 5v rails and my cooling pump as far as possible, however given that I had little running on either I don't hold much hope, I'm currently trying to get it to fail again!! as soon as it does I'll try and post a video, I'm also just configuring an SD card to run in standalone using the guide in your link so fingers crossed.

                                    Cheers Jim

                                    6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                      jumpedwithbothfeet @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet 19 Jun 2021, 21:27

                                      @phaedrux, so I thought I was getting somewhere as it has been behaving but I've managed to capture it whilst it's faulting, the first 15 seconds show what it like not faulting -

                                      Fault.mp4

                                      I have attempted to set up an SD card but I found the guide a little confusing as they sort of reference each other but I will attempt to set it up for standalone again tomorrow I just need to do some more digging in the docs and forum to see what files I actually need on the SD.

                                      here's the config file at time of faulting -

                                      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                      ;
                                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Mon Apr 06 2020 18:55:28 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                                      ; General preferences
                                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
                                      M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode
                                      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; paneldue
                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                                      M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                                      M569 P0.3 S0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                                      M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                      M569 P0.5 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                      M584 X0.3 Y0.5 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                      M671 X0:175:284 Y0:330:0 S10 ; Z leadscrews locations
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E812.6 ; set steps per mm
                                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                      M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E3000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20 E5000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X1200 Y1200 Z900 E900 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                      M208 X340 Y330 Z268 S0 ; set axis maxima
                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X1 S1 P"io4.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io4.in
                                      M574 Y1 S1 P"io5.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io5.in
                                      M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for Mini IR
                                      M558 P8 C"io7.in" H5 F120 T6000 R0.75 ; set Z probe type to Mini IR and the dive height + speeds
                                      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z1.656 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                      M557 X50:320 Y40:300 S45:52 ; define mesh grid
                                      ; Heaters
                                      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                      M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                      M143 H0 S130 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                      M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" Y"rtd-max31865" ; define temperature sensor number 1 as a PT100 on the first port of a temperature daughter
                                      M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                      M143 H1 S350 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C
                                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                      M308 S2 P"mcu-temp" Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp" ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                                      M308 S3 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" A"Enclosure temp" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                      ; Fans
                                      ;M950 F5 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                      ;M106 P5 S0 H-1 C"servo" ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M950 F1 C"!out5+out5.tach" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                      M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Rear Fan" ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      ;M950 F2 C"out6" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency (Rad Fan)
                                      ;M106 P2 S1 H-1 C"Rad Fan" ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      ;M950 F3 C"out8+out6.tach" ; create fan 3 on pin out5 and set its frequency (Cooling Pump)
                                      ;M106 P3 S1 H-1 C"Cooling Pump" ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M950 F4 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 4 on pin out4 and set its frequency (case fan)
                                      M106 P4 H2 T40 C"Case fan" ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                      ;M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency (New parts fan)
                                      ;M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Air Pump" ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      ;M950 S0 C"out9" ; assign GPIO port 0 to servo port, servo mode
                                      ;M280 P0 S5 ; set 80deg servo position on GPIO port 0
                                      ; Tools
                                      ;M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 F1 ; define tool 0
                                      M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 ; define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                      ; Custom settings are not defined
                                      M912 P0 S-7.9
                                      ;M593 F40.5 ; cancel ringing at 40.5Hz
                                      ; Miscellaneous
                                      M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                      T0 ; select first tool

                                      Cheers Jim

                                      6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                        jumpedwithbothfeet @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by 20 Jun 2021, 10:56

                                        @phaedrux, So I have finally managed to get my printer running in stand alone mode, however now I have an issue I didn't seem to have before whilst using the SBC, my DC42 IR sensor is reporting as triggered before homing and has the red LED dimly lit at all times , the wiring I believe is correct using IO7 and I cant find any shorts -

                                        IO7 3.3v to VCC
                                        IO7.in to OUT
                                        IO7 GND to GND

                                        I also spotted an M950 that's surplus in the Z-probe section and also that G31 had a P500 instead of P50 this has now been changed to no affect, I have swapped around the 3.3v and IO7.in like suggested in the troubleshooting section of https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com/mini-height-sensor-board/ I'm obviously doing something wrong but I cant spot it!

                                        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Mon Apr 06 2020 18:55:28 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                                        ; General preferences
                                        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
                                        M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode
                                        M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; paneldue
                                        ; Network
                                        M552 S1 ; enable networking
                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.3 S0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.5 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                        M584 X0.3 Y0.5 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                        M671 X0:175:284 Y0:330:0 S10 ; Z leadscrews locations
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E812.6 ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E3000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20 E5000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X1200 Y1200 Z900 E900 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                        M208 X340 Y330 Z268 S0 ; set axis maxima
                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X1 S1 P"io4.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io4.in
                                        M574 Y1 S1 P"io5.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io5.in
                                        M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        ;M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for Mini IR
                                        M558 P8 C"io7.in" H5 F120 T6000 R0.75 ; set Z probe type to Mini IR and the dive height + speeds
                                        G31 P50 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                        M557 X50:320 Y40:300 S45:52 ; define mesh grid
                                        ; Heaters
                                        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                        M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                        M143 H0 S130 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                        M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" Y"rtd-max31865" ; define temperature sensor number 1 as a PT100 on the first port of a temperature daughter
                                        M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                        M143 H1 S350 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C
                                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                        M308 S2 P"mcu-temp" Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp" ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                                        M308 S3 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" A"Enclosure temp" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                        ; Fans
                                        ;M950 F5 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                        ;M106 P5 S0 H-1 C"servo" ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 F1 C"!out5+out5.tach" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                        ;M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Rear Fan" ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 F2 C"out6" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency (Rad Fan)
                                        ;M106 P2 S1 H-1 C"Rad Fan" ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 F3 C"out8+out6.tach" ; create fan 3 on pin out5 and set its frequency (Cooling Pump)
                                        ;M106 P3 S1 H-1 C"Cooling Pump" ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 F4 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 4 on pin out4 and set its frequency (case fan)
                                        ;M106 P4 H2 T25 ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        ;M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency (New parts fan)
                                        ;M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Air Pump" ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 S0 C"out9" ; assign GPIO port 0 to servo port, servo mode
                                        ;M280 P0 S5 ; set 80deg servo position on GPIO port 0
                                        ; Tools
                                        ;M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 F1 ; define tool 0
                                        M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                        ; Custom settings are not defined
                                        M912 P0 S-7.9
                                        ;M593 F40.5 ; cancel ringing at 40.5Hz
                                        ; Miscellaneous
                                        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                        T0 ; select first tool

                                        6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                          Phaedrux Moderator @jumpedwithbothfeet
                                          last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 05:24

                                          @jumpedwithbothfeet said in Hotend stalling during movement and baby stepping issue:

                                          Fault.mp4

                                          Thanks for the video. I wouldn't have called that stalling movement. In the context of stepper motors stalling would mean motion is completely halted. That would appear to be smooth slow down during curves.

                                          Aside from the IR sensor problem in standalone mode, are you now able to execute the same moves without that slow down occuring?

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