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    • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
      jumpedwithbothfeet
      last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet

      Morning all, I seem to be having some an issue with my printer mainly the print head stalling during movement (hot or cold) and baby stepping not working! before I completely rip my printer apart could someone please take a look at the snap diagnostics and maybe point me in a direction, driver 2 (z motor) seems suspicious to me, but i'm unsure if its my board, motor or a bad bearing!

      17/06/2021, 10:19:53 M122
      === Diagnostics ===
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.2.2 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 (SBC mode)
      Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKDG-3SS6L-KB12H
      Used output buffers: 10 of 40 (19 max)
      === RTOS ===
      Static ram: 149788
      Dynamic ram: 63352 of which 72 recycled
      Never used RAM 145620, free system stack 127 words
      Tasks: Linux(ready,79) HEAT(blocked,297) CanReceiv(blocked,927) CanSender(blocked,352) CanClock(blocked,352) TMC(blocked,17) MAIN(running,720) IDLE(ready,19)
      Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
      === Platform ===
      Last reset 00:23:10 ago, cause: software
      Last software reset at 2021-06-17 09:56, reason: User, none spinning, available RAM 145620, slot 1
      Software reset code 0x0012 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00400000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task Linu Freestk 0 n/a
      Error status: 0x00
      Aux0 errors 0,0,0
      Aux1 errors 0,0,0
      MCU temperature: min 32.9, current 33.2, max 41.2
      Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
      12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0
      Driver 0: position 0, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/950
      Driver 1: position 0, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
      Driver 2: position 4062, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
      Driver 3: position 0, standstill, reads 33569, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/243
      Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 33570, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/191
      Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 33570, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/254
      Date/time: 2021-06-17 10:19:26
      Slowest loop: 156.96ms; fastest: 0.03ms
      === Storage ===
      Free file entries: 10
      SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
      SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
      === Move ===
      DMs created 125, maxWait 79993ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.072
      === MainDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 757, completed moves 757, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 7], CDDA state -1
      === AuxDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === Heat ===
      Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
      === GCodes ===
      Segments left: 0
      Movement lock held by null
      HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
      Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
      File* is idle in state(s) 0
      USB is idle in state(s) 0
      Aux is idle in state(s) 0
      Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
      Queue is idle in state(s) 0
      LCD is idle in state(s) 0
      SBC is idle in state(s) 0
      Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
      Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
      Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
      Code queue is empty.
      === CAN ===
      Messages queued 5595, send timeouts 12547, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, free buffers 48
      === SBC interface ===
      State: 4, failed transfers: 0
      Last transfer: 3ms ago
      RX/TX seq numbers: 50245/50245
      SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
      Number of disconnects: 0, IAP RAM available 0x2c8a8
      Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
      === Duet Control Server ===
      Duet Control Server v3.2.2
      Code buffer space: 4096
      Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
      Full transfers per second: 36.21
      Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 3640/864

      config.g

      Thanks in advance
      Jim

      P.S have just updated the firmware after I posted this!

      6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
        last edited by

        @jumpedwithbothfeet is your babystepping issues around not being able to go lower than 0mm?
        That'll be because your M208 doesn't allow it
        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
          jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk AHAH yup that might be the cause, I'll have a play with the limits and cal my z height again! but that doesn't account for the YX movement stall, I've just taken a snap shot whilst it was stalling anything obvious you can see? it does tend to start stalling when the printer heater/s are up to temp so maybe a power issue?

          M122
          === Diagnostics ===
          RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.3 (2021-06-15 21:45:47) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 (SBC mode)
          Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKDG-3SS6L-KB12H
          Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (19 max)
          === RTOS ===
          Static ram: 150904
          Dynamic ram: 62760 of which 108 recycled
          Never used RAM 137564, free system stack 142 words
          Tasks: SBC(ready,5.3%,308) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,325) Move(notifyWait,0.1%,250) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,944) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,362) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,333) TMC(notifyWait,7.7%,59) MAIN(running,86.8%,922) IDLE(ready,0.0%,29), total 100.0%
          Owned mutexes: Telnet(MAIN)
          === Platform ===
          Last reset 00:08:32 ago, cause: software
          Last software reset at 2021-06-17 11:20, reason: User, none spinning, available RAM 137780, slot 2
          Software reset code 0x0012 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0044a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task SBC Freestk 0 n/a
          Error status: 0x00
          Aux0 errors 0,0,0
          Step timer max interval 323
          MCU temperature: min 33.0, current 34.5, max 41.3
          Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
          12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0
          Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/8/8, gc cycles 0
          Driver 0: position 18012, ok, reads 29208, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/295
          Driver 1: position 4828, ok, reads 29208, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
          Driver 2: position 5202, ok, reads 29208, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/1023
          Driver 3: position 0, ok, reads 29209, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/234
          Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 29212, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
          Driver 5: position 0, ok, reads 29209, writes 17 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/242
          Date/time: 2021-06-17 11:29:16
          Slowest loop: 179.82ms; fastest: 0.03ms
          === Storage ===
          Free file entries: 10
          SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
          SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
          === Move ===
          DMs created 125, maxWait 179338ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
          === MainDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 1300, completed moves 1241, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 2], CDDA state 3
          === AuxDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
          === Heat ===
          Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
          Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.7
          Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
          === GCodes ===
          Segments left: 12
          Movement lock held by null
          HTTP* is idle in state(s) 3 0, running macro
          Telnet* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
          File is idle in state(s) 0
          USB is idle in state(s) 0
          Aux is idle in state(s) 0
          Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
          Queue is idle in state(s) 0
          LCD is idle in state(s) 0
          SBC is idle in state(s) 0
          Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
          Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
          Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
          Code queue is empty.
          === CAN ===
          Messages queued 4634, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 49 (min 49), ts 2561/0/0
          Tx timeouts 0,55,2560,0,0,2016 last cancelled message type 30 dest 127

          === SBC interface ===
          State: 4, failed transfers: 0, checksum errors: 0
          Last transfer: 3ms ago
          RX/TX seq numbers: 18343/18343
          SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
          Disconnects: 0, timeouts: 0, IAP RAM available 0x2c83c
          Buffer RX/TX: 512/1224-0
          === Duet Control Server ===
          Duet Control Server v3.3.0
          HTTP:
          Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
          Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
          Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
          Buffered code: G3 X100 Y100 I25
          Buffered code: G3 X100 Y100 I25
          Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
          Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
          Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
          Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
          Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
          Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
          Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
          Buffered code: G2 X100 Y100 I25
          Buffered code: G0 X10 Y10
          Buffered code: G0 X100 Y100 F10000
          Buffered code: G3 X100 Y100 I25
          ==> 736 bytes
          Executing macro 0:/macros/Test files/Spiral, started by M98 P"0:/macros/Test files/Spiral"

          Next stack level
          Code buffer space: 2872
          Configured SPI speed: 8000000Hz
          Full transfers per second: 36.05, max wait times: 9.6ms/0.0ms
          Codes per second: 0.39
          Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 4007/832
          ok

          6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
            last edited by

            @jumpedwithbothfeet what motors do you have?

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
              jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              @jay_s_uk Nema 17 (stepperonline) 1.8 degree 40mm in a coreXY config, I've just just tested each motor individually and they move absolutely fine but when they move together the hot end stalls and that was with the bed heater off.....

              6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
                last edited by

                @jumpedwithbothfeet do you have the actual part number of them? what speed are you moving them at when they're stalling?

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                  jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                  last edited by

                  @jay_s_uk I've just turned off the printer and back on again repeated the test both motors work with no issue in both the tests I did, seems like its a power issue of some sort it that occurs after I heat my bed up, FYI I'm using two PSU's one 15amp 24v for the bed and one 14.6 amp 24v for the board.

                  6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                  • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                    jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by

                    @jay_s_uk the motors are -

                    17HS16 - 1604S - X1 stepper-online (taken upside down with my head under the heat bed!) running at 900mA

                    they stall anywhere from 20 - 167mm/s

                    I've now turned my bed on to 100 and repeated the test and they are working fine.....I've truly got no clue what's going on now

                    6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @jumpedwithbothfeet
                      last edited by

                      @jumpedwithbothfeet those motors are rated to 1.68 amp. the rule of thumb is to run them at 80% of the rated maximum, which would be 1344ma.
                      So I suggest running them at that.
                      Could you post a photo of your wiring?
                      I would've thought 15amp on both is more than capable (depending on bed size and amps requirement). I run one of my printers (not including the bed) off a 6amp 24v PSU

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                        jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk I've changed the current to 1300 for both the hot end sure does move quickly now lol, i'll continue to test and try to repeat the fault, the bed I'm using is from the ender 5 Plus so it is fairly large 15 amps is just enough to power it but not much overhead if I remember correctly.

                        I've included two poor pics of the wiring, the motor wires go straight to drivers and all are 1m or less and please remember this is a work in progress it'll be a lot neater when it's done!!

                        IMG_3514.jpg IMG_3513.jpg

                        6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                        • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                          jumpedwithbothfeet @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet

                          @jay_s_uk so the fault is still there both stalling just at a faster speed!, bed to 100 then carried out my bed levelling macro which is -

                          G28
                          G32
                          G32
                          G29 S2
                          G29 S0

                          I then carried out a test file I made that moves the hot end around which is just -
                          G28 XY
                          G0 X100 Y100 F10000
                          G3 X100 Y100 I25
                          G3 X100 Y100 I25
                          G0 X10 Y10
                          G0 X100 Y100 F10000
                          G2 X100 Y100 I25
                          G2 X100 Y100 I25
                          G0 X10 Y10
                          (repeated over and over)

                          unfortunately I have to go to work now and wont be able to test more till the morning, if you have any ideas I'm all ears and thankyou for your help so far 🙂

                          Jim

                          6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @jumpedwithbothfeet
                            last edited by

                            @jumpedwithbothfeet it may be easier for us to help if you post your config.g file.

                            As well as motor current being too low, another common cause of motors stalling is acceleration set too high. Acceleration is controlled by the M201 command in config.g.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                            • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                              jumpedwithbothfeet @dc42
                              last edited by Phaedrux

                              @dc42 sorry I did attach it to the first post but it would of made more sense putting it at the top apologies so here is a fresh copy -

                              config.g

                              I have not played with the acceleration settings at all in config.g as my machine is nearly always in a state of flux! so I imagine they are stock settings for the firmware still

                              ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Mon Apr 06 2020 18:55:28 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                              
                              ; General preferences
                              G90                                         ; send absolute coordinates...
                              M83                                         ; ...but relative extruder moves
                              M550 P"Duet 3"                              ; set printer name
                              M669 K1                                     ; select CoreXY mode
                              M575 P1 S1 B57600                           ; paneldue
                              
                              ; Drives
                              M569 P0.0 S0                                ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.1 S0                                ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                              M569 P0.2 S0                                ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.3 S0                                ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.4 S0                                ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                              M569 P0.5 S1                                ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                              M584 X0.3 Y0.5 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E0.4            ; set drive mapping
                              M671 X0:175:284 Y0:330:0 S10                ; Z leadscrews locations
                              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                     ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                              M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E812.6            ; set steps per mm
                              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00         ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                              M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E3000.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                              M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20 E5000.00           ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                              M906 X1300 Y1300 Z900 E900 I30                ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M84 S30                                     ; Set idle timeout
                              
                              ; Axis Limits
                              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                            ; set axis minima
                              M208 X340 Y330 Z268 S0                      ; set axis maxima
                              
                              ; Endstops
                              M574 X1 S1 P"io4.in"                        ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io4.in
                              M574 Y1 S1 P"io5.in"                        ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io5.in
                              M574 Z1 S2                                  ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                              
                              ; Z-Probe
                              M950 S0 C"io7.out"                           ; create servo pin 0 for Mini IR
                              M558 P8 C"io7.in" H5 F120 T6000 R0.75        ; set Z probe type to Mini IR and the dive height + speeds
                              G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z1.641                        ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                              M557 X50:320 Y40:300 S45:52                  ; define mesh grid
                              
                              ; Heaters
                              M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185           ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                              M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                    ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                              M143 H0 S130                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                              M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                              M140 H0                                               ; map heated bed to heater 0
                              M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" Y"rtd-max31865"                    ; define temperature sensor number 1 as a PT100 on the first port of a temperature daughter
                              M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                              M143 H1 S350                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C
                              M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                              M308 S2 P"mcu-temp" Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp"           ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                              M308 S3 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" A"Enclosure temp" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin temp1
                              
                              ; Fans
                              ;M950 F5 C"out9" Q500                                 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                              ;M106 P5 S0 H-1 C"servo"                              ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              M950 F1 C"!out5+out5.tach" Q500                       ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                              M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Rear Fan"                            ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              M950 F2 C"out6" Q500                                  ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency (Rad Fan)
                              M106 P2 S1 H-1 C"Rad Fan"                             ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              M950 F3 C"out8+out6.tach"                             ; create fan 3 on pin out5 and set its frequency (Cooling Pump)
                              M106 P3 S1 H-1 C"Cooling Pump"                        ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              M950 F4 C"out9" Q500                                  ; create fan 4 on pin out4 and set its frequency (case fan)
                              M106 P4 H2 T25                                        ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                              M950 F0 C"out7" Q500                                  ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency (New parts fan)
                              M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Air Pump"                            ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              ;M950 S0 C"out9"                                      ; assign GPIO port 0 to servo port, servo mode
                              ;M280 P0 S5                                           ; set 80deg servo position on GPIO port 0
                              
                              ; Tools
                              M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 F1              ; define tool 0
                              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                             ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                              G10 P0 R0 S0                                ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                              
                              ; Custom settings are not defined
                              M912 P0 S-7.9
                              ;M593 F40.5  ; cancel ringing at 40.5Hz
                              
                              ; Miscellaneous
                              M501                                        ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                              T0                                          ; select first tool
                              
                              

                              6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                              • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                jumpedwithbothfeet @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42 or anybody with any ideas for that matter! , I have been repeating the fault over and over both X and Y motors work independently but stall when used together so I cant see it being a mechanical issue so...

                                could the stepper motors or wiring to them be an issue will one drag down the other if there is some sort of mismatch?
                                would a board reset/fresh install be beneficial?

                                Thanks Jim

                                6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                  jumpedwithbothfeet @jumpedwithbothfeet
                                  last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet

                                  Further update to my issue, I've stripped my top end apart, as a correction the motors installed are 17HS15-1504S-X1 (the 5's look like 6's) these are rated at 1.5 amp.

                                  All coils measure approximately 2.3 ohms taking into account lead correction so within spec.
                                  both motor leads tested with no breaks or high resistance found, and the crimps appear secure, one lead measures 102cm and the other 99cm, would 3 cm make any difference given they are running on different drivers?

                                  my hot end moves freely on its rails and all my pulleys follow suit, I'm now thinking this is a board or firmware issue, I cant see any burnt or popped components on the board although it is still installed so I cant rule this out yet.

                                  I've run P98 on my config and multiple M122 during faulting and after with nothing I can spot with my limited knowledge, is there any other diagnostic tests I can run?

                                  Regards Jim

                                  6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by Phaedrux

                                    I don't suppose you could post a video of the problem movement?

                                    It may also be helpful to temporarily setup to run the Duet in standalone mode without the Pi to help isolate the issue.

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

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                                    • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                      jumpedwithbothfeet @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux, Morning well at least it is here 🙂 , I've just rebuilt the printer and I believe completely offloaded the 12v and 5v rails and my cooling pump as far as possible, however given that I had little running on either I don't hold much hope, I'm currently trying to get it to fail again!! as soon as it does I'll try and post a video, I'm also just configuring an SD card to run in standalone using the guide in your link so fingers crossed.

                                      Cheers Jim

                                      6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                      • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                        jumpedwithbothfeet @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet

                                        @phaedrux, so I thought I was getting somewhere as it has been behaving but I've managed to capture it whilst it's faulting, the first 15 seconds show what it like not faulting -

                                        Fault.mp4

                                        I have attempted to set up an SD card but I found the guide a little confusing as they sort of reference each other but I will attempt to set it up for standalone again tomorrow I just need to do some more digging in the docs and forum to see what files I actually need on the SD.

                                        here's the config file at time of faulting -

                                        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Mon Apr 06 2020 18:55:28 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                                        
                                        ; General preferences
                                        G90                                         ; send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83                                         ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"Duet 3"                              ; set printer name
                                        M669 K1                                     ; select CoreXY mode
                                        M575 P1 S1 B57600                           ; paneldue
                                        
                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0.0 S0                                ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.1 S0                                ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                        M569 P0.2 S0                                ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.3 S0                                ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.4 S0                                ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.5 S1                                ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                        M584 X0.3 Y0.5 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E0.4            ; set drive mapping
                                        M671 X0:175:284 Y0:330:0 S10                ; Z leadscrews locations
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                     ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E812.6            ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00         ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E3000.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20 E5000.00           ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X1200 Y1200 Z900 E900 I30                ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30                                     ; Set idle timeout
                                        
                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                            ; set axis minima
                                        M208 X340 Y330 Z268 S0                      ; set axis maxima
                                        
                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X1 S1 P"io4.in"                        ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io4.in
                                        M574 Y1 S1 P"io5.in"                        ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io5.in
                                        M574 Z1 S2                                  ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                                        
                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M950 S0 C"io7.out"                           ; create servo pin 0 for Mini IR
                                        M558 P8 C"io7.in" H5 F120 T6000 R0.75        ; set Z probe type to Mini IR and the dive height + speeds
                                        G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z1.656                        ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                        M557 X50:320 Y40:300 S45:52                  ; define mesh grid
                                        
                                        ; Heaters
                                        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185           ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                        M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                    ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                        M143 H0 S130                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                        M140 H0                                               ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                        M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" Y"rtd-max31865"                    ; define temperature sensor number 1 as a PT100 on the first port of a temperature daughter
                                        M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                        M143 H1 S350                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C
                                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                        M308 S2 P"mcu-temp" Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp"           ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                                        M308 S3 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" A"Enclosure temp" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                        
                                        ; Fans
                                        ;M950 F5 C"out9" Q500                                 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                        ;M106 P5 S0 H-1 C"servo"                              ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M950 F1 C"!out5+out5.tach" Q500                       ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                        M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Rear Fan"                            ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 F2 C"out6" Q500                                 ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency (Rad Fan)
                                        ;M106 P2 S1 H-1 C"Rad Fan"                            ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 F3 C"out8+out6.tach"                            ; create fan 3 on pin out5 and set its frequency (Cooling Pump)
                                        ;M106 P3 S1 H-1 C"Cooling Pump"                       ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M950 F4 C"out9" Q500                                  ; create fan 4 on pin out4 and set its frequency (case fan)
                                        M106 P4 H2 T40 C"Case fan"                            ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        ;M950 F0 C"out7" Q500                                 ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency (New parts fan)
                                        ;M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Air Pump"                           ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M950 S0 C"out9"                                      ; assign GPIO port 0 to servo port, servo mode
                                        ;M280 P0 S5                                           ; set 80deg servo position on GPIO port 0
                                        
                                        ; Tools
                                        ;M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 F1              ; define tool 0
                                        M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1               ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                             ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P0 R0 S0                                ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                        
                                        ; Custom settings are not defined
                                        M912 P0 S-7.9
                                        ;M593 F40.5  ; cancel ringing at 40.5Hz
                                        
                                        ; Miscellaneous
                                        M501                                        ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                        T0                                          ; select first tool
                                        
                                        
                                        

                                        Cheers Jim

                                        6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                          jumpedwithbothfeet @Phaedrux
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                                          @phaedrux, So I have finally managed to get my printer running in stand alone mode, however now I have an issue I didn't seem to have before whilst using the SBC, my DC42 IR sensor is reporting as triggered before homing and has the red LED dimly lit at all times , the wiring I believe is correct using IO7 and I cant find any shorts -

                                          IO7 3.3v to VCC
                                          IO7.in to OUT
                                          IO7 GND to GND

                                          I also spotted an M950 that's surplus in the Z-probe section and also that G31 had a P500 instead of P50 this has now been changed to no affect, I have swapped around the 3.3v and IO7.in like suggested in the troubleshooting section of https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com/mini-height-sensor-board/ I'm obviously doing something wrong but I cant spot it!

                                          ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                                          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                          ;
                                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Mon Apr 06 2020 18:55:28 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                                          
                                          ; General preferences
                                          G90                                         ; send absolute coordinates...
                                          M83                                         ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                          M550 P"Duet 3"                              ; set printer name
                                          M669 K1                                     ; select CoreXY mode
                                          M575 P1 S1 B57600                           ; paneldue
                                          
                                          ; Network
                                          M552 S1                                     ; enable networking
                                          
                                          ; Drives
                                          M569 P0.0 S0                                ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                                          M569 P0.1 S0                                ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                          M569 P0.2 S0                                ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                                          M569 P0.3 S0                                ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                                          M569 P0.4 S0                                ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                          M569 P0.5 S1                                ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                          M584 X0.3 Y0.5 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E0.4            ; set drive mapping
                                          M671 X0:175:284 Y0:330:0 S10                ; Z leadscrews locations
                                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                     ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E812.6            ; set steps per mm
                                          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00         ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                          M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E3000.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                          M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20 E5000.00           ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                          M906 X1200 Y1200 Z900 E900 I30                ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                          M84 S30                                     ; Set idle timeout
                                          
                                          ; Axis Limits
                                          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                            ; set axis minima
                                          M208 X340 Y330 Z268 S0                      ; set axis maxima
                                          
                                          ; Endstops
                                          M574 X1 S1 P"io4.in"                        ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io4.in
                                          M574 Y1 S1 P"io5.in"                        ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io5.in
                                          M574 Z1 S2                                  ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                                          
                                          ; Z-Probe
                                          ;M950 S0 C"io7.out"                          ; create servo pin 0 for Mini IR
                                          M558 P8 C"io7.in" H5 F120 T6000 R0.75        ; set Z probe type to Mini IR and the dive height + speeds
                                          G31 P50 X0 Y0 Z0                             ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                          M557 X50:320 Y40:300 S45:52                  ; define mesh grid
                                          
                                          ; Heaters
                                          M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185           ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                          M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                    ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                          M143 H0 S130                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                          M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                          M140 H0                                               ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                          M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" Y"rtd-max31865"                    ; define temperature sensor number 1 as a PT100 on the first port of a temperature daughter
                                          M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                          M143 H1 S350                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C
                                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                          M308 S2 P"mcu-temp" Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp"           ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                                          M308 S3 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" A"Enclosure temp" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                          
                                          ; Fans
                                          ;M950 F5 C"out9" Q500                                 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                          ;M106 P5 S0 H-1 C"servo"                              ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                          ;M950 F1 C"!out5+out5.tach" Q500                       ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency (parts cooling fan)
                                          ;M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Rear Fan"                            ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                          ;M950 F2 C"out6" Q500                                  ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency (Rad Fan)
                                          ;M106 P2 S1 H-1 C"Rad Fan"                             ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                          ;M950 F3 C"out8+out6.tach"                             ; create fan 3 on pin out5 and set its frequency (Cooling Pump)
                                          ;M106 P3 S1 H-1 C"Cooling Pump"                        ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                          ;M950 F4 C"out9" Q500                                  ; create fan 4 on pin out4 and set its frequency (case fan)
                                          ;M106 P4 H2 T25                                        ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                          ;M950 F0 C"out7" Q500                                  ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency (New parts fan)
                                          ;M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Air Pump"                            ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                          ;M950 S0 C"out9"                                      ; assign GPIO port 0 to servo port, servo mode
                                          ;M280 P0 S5                                           ; set 80deg servo position on GPIO port 0
                                          
                                          ; Tools
                                          ;M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1 F1              ; define tool 0
                                          M563 P0 S"Titan Aqua" D0 H1               ; define tool 0
                                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                             ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                          G10 P0 R0 S0                                ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                          
                                          ; Custom settings are not defined
                                          M912 P0 S-7.9
                                          ;M593 F40.5  ; cancel ringing at 40.5Hz
                                          
                                          ; Miscellaneous
                                          M501                                        ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                          T0                                          ; select first tool
                                          
                                          
                                          

                                          6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                            Phaedrux Moderator @jumpedwithbothfeet
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                                            @jumpedwithbothfeet said in Hotend stalling during movement and baby stepping issue:

                                            Fault.mp4

                                            Thanks for the video. I wouldn't have called that stalling movement. In the context of stepper motors stalling would mean motion is completely halted. That would appear to be smooth slow down during curves.

                                            Aside from the IR sensor problem in standalone mode, are you now able to execute the same moves without that slow down occuring?

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