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    • KevinMarundefined
      KevinMar @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux I have a silicone sock and have tried the tuning with and without it.
      I adjusted the F parameter to have the fan run at only 40%, and even tried tuning without the fan at all

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      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
        DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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        @kevinmar
        Do you use M501 in the config?

        (UTC+1)

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @KevinMar
          last edited by dc42

          @kevinmar please run M307 H1 with no other parameters, to check that it really is using the parameters that you found from tuning.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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            @diy-o-sphere Yes

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            • KevinMarundefined
              KevinMar @dc42
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              @dc42 Confirmed, it is using the parameters that I found from tuning

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                The Hemera's have an overpowered part cooling fan, so I'm tuning using M303 T0 A30 F.40 S220

                The tuning runs fine, but when I paste the parameters into config.g, the resulting heater activation inevitably results in a fault before the tool reaches 120C, usually around 70-100C

                Is the ambient temp really 30?

                And what fault are you getting?

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                  DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar
                  Do you still have old parameters in the config-override.g?
                  But after you have checked the heater in the console it should actually fit.

                  (UTC+1)

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @fcwilt
                    last edited by

                    @fcwilt Ambient is 26-30C
                    I am not getting a fault readout in the console

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                      @diy-o-sphere No, old parameters are overwritten when a new set is generated and saved using M500

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt Ambient is 26-30C

                        Wow. I gather it is hot were you live and you have no air conditioning?

                        I am not getting a fault readout in the console

                        You posted this where you said there was a fault.

                        The tuning runs fine, but when I paste the parameters into config.g, the resulting heater activation inevitably results in a fault before the tool reaches 120C, usually around 70-100C

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar
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                          I think it's faulting way too liberally. My heater and PT1000 are working, it's not like I'm experiencing thermal runaway.
                          Is there a way to change the sensitivity of the faults?

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            I think it's faulting way too liberally. My heater and PT1000 are working, it's not like I'm experiencing thermal runaway.
                            Is there a way to change the sensitivity of the faults?

                            What fault are you getting?

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt Well, true ambient is about 24C, but the PT1000's always read about 27C as ambient.

                              The heater faults, but there is no readout in the console.

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                @fcwilt Well, true ambient is about 24C, but the PT1000's always read about 27C as ambient.

                                The heater faults, but there is no readout in the console.

                                In what way does the heater fault?

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • KevinMarundefined
                                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt I wish I knew!

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                    @fcwilt I wish I knew!

                                    What is happening that is evidence of a fault?

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt 206b714d-0f6e-4af1-b468-c804880c2ed3-image.png

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                                      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                        DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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                                        @kevinmar
                                        Please post the config.g

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                          @diy-o-sphere config (1).g

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            @fcwilt 206b714d-0f6e-4af1-b468-c804880c2ed3-image.png

                                            OK that helps.

                                            All all three heaters actually active at the same time?

                                            Do they all fault at the same time?

                                            Can you take a screen shot of the temp graph showing the heaters as they heat up and then fault?

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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