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    • terbospaghettiundefined
      terbospaghetti
      last edited by

      I'm attempting to tune my IDEX printer, but when I position the second extruder (t1) over the bed and attempt to lower the gantry, the carriage moves back to the U axis limit EVERY TIME.

      The X axis doesn't do this, only U axis. This is with that tool selected and active.

      I cannot fathom why it would happen, but it occurs no matter how much of a z move is requested, and the Y axis stays still.

      I'm beyond frustrated with it! WHY MOVE IN AN AXIS I DIDN'T REQUEST?!?!?!?!?!!?!

      Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here? Why is this even happening? I really can't come up with a reason anyone would desire this behavior in their machine so I've either screwed something up or this is a bug of some kind.

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @terbospaghetti
        last edited by

        @terbospaghetti

        Please cut-and-paste your config.g and homing files using the </> tag.

        When you use that tag the result should look something like this:

        line 1
        line 2
        line 3
        

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Show us your gcode please. config.g, homing files, tool change files. What firmware version? What duet board? What commands did you send to get it to do what it does?

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • terbospaghettiundefined
            terbospaghetti
            last edited by

            Lol my gcode is "g1 z0" or literally anything that asks for a movement in Z while the tool is selected. I can click the "-0.5" button in the web interface, type a gcode command, anything, they all have the same problem.

            MB6HC, firmware 3.3.

            config.g

            ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Sat Jul 17 2021 19:40:18 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
            
            ; General preferences
            G90                                                  ; send absolute coordinates...
            M83                                                  ; ...but relative extruder moves
            M550 P"Tenlog Hands 2+"                              ; set printer name
            
            ; Network
            M551 P"idexer"                                       ; set password
            M552 P0.0.0.0 S1                                     ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
            M586 P0 S1                                           ; enable HTTP
            M586 P1 S0                                           ; disable FTP
            M586 P2 S0                                           ; disable Telnet
            
            ; Drives
            M569 P0.0 S0                                    			; physical drive 0.0 goes BACKWARDS
            M569 P0.1 S1                                    			; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
            M569 P0.2 S0                                    			; physical drive 0.2 goes BACKWARDS
            M569 P0.3 S0													;DRIVE 3 GOES BACKWARDS
            M569 P0.4 S1													;DRIVE 4 GOES FORWARDS
            M569 P0.5 S1													;DRIVE 5 GOES FORWARDS
            M569 P1.0 S1                            	        		; physical drive 1.0 goes FORWARDS
            M569 P1.1 S0                                    			; physical drive 1.1 goes BACKWARDS
            M569 P1.2 S1													;DRIVE 1.2 GOES FORWARDS
            M584 X0.0 U0.5 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.3 E1.0:1.1           			; set drive mapping							ADDED U AND Z2 AXES
            M671 X-25:245 Y0:0 S2.5 						; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
            M350 X64 U64 Y64 Z16 E64:64 I1               				; configure microstepping with interpolation				ADDED U AXIS
            M92 X320.00 U320.00 Y320.00 Z800.00 E1600:1600   		; set steps per mm							ADDED U AXIS
            M566 X900.00 U900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00:120.00      		; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)			ADDED U AXIS
            M203 X10000.00 U10000.00 Y10000.00 Z500.00 E1200.00:1200.00 		; set maximum speeds (mm/min)						ADDED U AXIS
            M201 X1500.00 U1500.00 Y1500.00 Z30.00 E150.00:150.00    		; set accelerations (mm/s^2)						ADDED U AXIS
            M906 X1600 U1600 Y1600 Z1360 E800:800 I30             			; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent		ADDED U AXIS
            M84 S30                                         			; Set idle timeout
            
            ; Axis Limits
            M208 X-35 U-5 Y0 Z-1 S1                        ; set axis minima
            M208 X225 U255 Y218 Z210 S0                    ; set axis maxima
            
            ; Endstops
            M574 U2 s1 P"io4.in"					; configure active-high endstop for high end on U via pin io4.in
            M574 X1 S1 P"io1.in"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io1.in
            M574 Y1 S1 P"io2.in"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io2.in
            ;M574 Z1 S2                                           ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z (COMMENTED OUT FOR TESTING)
            
            ; Z-Probe
            M558 P8 C"io5.in+io5.out" H5 F300 T24000                     ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
            G31 P500 X-10 Y28 Z0.4                                  ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X40:180 Y40:180 S20                             ; define mesh grid
            
            ; Heaters
            M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138         ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
            M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                   ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
            M307 H0 B0 R0.299 C532.6 D3.65 S1.00 V24.0  			; heated bed tuning specs
            M140 H0                                              ; map heated bed to heater 0
            M143 H0 S115                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 115C
            M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8							         ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
            M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                   ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
            M307 H1 B0 R2.308 C271.0:261.3 D5.56 S1.00 V24.0			; heater 1 on e0 tuning specs
            M143 H1 S260                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 260C
            M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8							         ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
            M950 H2 C"out2" T2                                   ; create nozzle heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 2
            M307 H2 B0 R2.268 C237.1:235.1 D5.83 S1.00 V24.0			; heater 2 on e1 tuning specs
            M143 H2 S260                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 260C
            
            ; Fans
            M950 F0 C"out4" Q500                                 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency CASE FAN 1
            M106 P0 S0 H-1                                       ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F1 C"out5" Q500                                 ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency CASE FAN 2
            M106 P1 S1 H-1                                       ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F2 C"1.out3" Q500                               ; create fan 2 on pin 1.out3 and set its frequency CASE FAN 3
            M106 P2 S1 H-1                                       ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F3 C"out6" Q500                                 ; create fan 3 on pin out6 and set its frequency HE FAN E0
            M106 P3 S1 H1 T60                                    ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
            M950 F4 C"out7" Q500                                 ; create fan 4 on pin out7 and set its frequency PART COOLING FAN E0
            M106 P4 S1 H-1                                       ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F5 C"out8" Q500                                 ; create fan 5 on pin out8 and set its frequency HE FAN E1
            M106 P5 S1 H2 T60                                    ; set fan 5 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
            M950 F6 C"out9" Q500                                 ; create fan 6 on pin out9 and set its frequency PART COOLING FAN E1
            M106 P6 S1 H-1                                       ; set fan 6 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            
            ; Tools
            M563 P0 S"LEFT" D0 H1 F4                         	; define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                 	; set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S220                                   	; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            M563 P1 S"RIGHT" D1 H2 X3 F6                          	; define tool 1						ADDED X3 TO MAP U AXIS TO X AXIS 
            G10 P1 X0.1 Y-0.6 Z0.265                                 	; set tool 1 axis offsets
            G10 P1 R0 S220                                    	; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            M563 P2 S"DUPLICATE" D0:1 H1:2 X0:3 F4:6										;ADDED DUPLICATE TOOL
            G10 P2 X40 Y0 U-40												;SET OFFSETS TO KEEP CARRIAGES 80MM APART
            G10 P2 S220 R0													;SET STARTING AND STANDBY TEMPS TO 0C
            M567 P2 E1:1 													; set mix ratio 100% on both extruders
            
            ; Custom settings are not defined
            
            ; Miscellaneous
            M575 P1 S1 B57600                                    ; enable support for PanelDue
            M911 S10 R11.5 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
            

            tfree0

            ; tfree0.g
            ; called when tool 0 is freed
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue Jun 08 2021 18:16:59 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
            
            G91 				; relative axis movement
            G1 Z5 F1000 			; Z up 5mm
            G90 				; absolute axis movement
            G0 H0 X-10			; fast move the X carriage to -10
            

            tfree1

            ; tfree1.g
            ; called when tool 1 is freed
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue Jun 08 2021 18:16:59 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
            
            
            G91 				; relative axis movement
            G1 Z5 F1000 			; Z up 5mm
            G90 				; absolute axis movement
            G0 H0 U230			; Fast move the U carriage to 230
            

            tpost0

            ; tpost0.g
            ; called after tool 0 has been selected
            ;
            M116 P0
            
            

            tpost1

            ; tpost1.g
            ; called after tool 1 has been selected
            ;
            M116 P1
            

            I haven't put anything in the tpre files yet,. I'm still setting the machine up

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by Phaedrux

              Can you send M98 P"config.g" in the console and report any errors?

              And your homing files?

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • terbospaghettiundefined
                terbospaghetti @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @phaedrux

                No errors come back from the m98 command, I get the following response:

                m98 P"config.g"
                
                HTTP is enabled on port 80
                FTP is disabled
                TELNET is disabled
                

                homeall

                ; homeall.g
                ; called to home all axes
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue Jun 08 2021 18:16:58 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                G91                     		; relative positioning
                G1 H2 Z5 F12000       			; lift Z relative to current position
                G1 H1 X-300 U300 Y-235 F5000 	; move quickly to X, U, and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                G1 H2 X5 U-5 Y5 F5000      	; go back a few mm on each axis
                G1 H1 X-300 U300 Y-235 F1000  	; move slowly to X, U, and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                G90 							;back to absolute mode
                G1 X120 Y82 F5000 				; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
                G30 							; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height
                G32					        	; run bed.g to level Z axis leadscrews
                G91
                G1 H1 X-300 Y-235 F5000 	; move quickly to X, U, and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                G1 H2 X5 Y5 F5000      	; go back a few mm on each axis
                G1 H1 X-300 U300 Y-235 F1000  	; move slowly to X, U, and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                

                homeu

                
                Tenlog Hands 2+
                m98 P"config.g"
                Status
                Idle
                Mode: FFF
                Tool Position
                X
                -35.0
                Y
                101.5
                Z
                24.73
                U
                100.0
                Extruder Drives
                Drive 0
                0.0
                Drive 1
                0.0
                Speeds
                Requested Speed
                0 mm/s
                Top Speed
                0 mm/s
                Sensors
                Vin
                24.1 V
                V12
                12.0 V
                MCU Temperature
                41.7 °C
                Z-Probe
                0
                 Tools
                 Extra
                 Control Heaters
                Tool	Heater	Current	Active	Standby
                LEFT
                T0 - Load Filament	Heater 1
                off	74.0 °C	
                220
                0
                RIGHT
                T1 - Load Filament	Heater 2
                off	72.6 °C	
                220
                0
                DUPLICATE
                T2	Heater 1
                off	74.0 °C	
                220
                0
                Heater 2
                off	72.6 °C	
                220
                0
                Bed	Heater 0
                off	23.5 °C	
                0
                0
                Temperature Chart
                System Directory
                0:/sys/homeu.g
                ; homeu.g
                ; called to home the U axis
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue Jun 08 2021 18:16:58 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                G91               ; relative positioning
                G1 H2 Z5 F5000  ; lift Z relative to current position
                G1 H1 U300 F5000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                G1 H2 U-5 F5000   ; go back a few mm
                G1 H1 U300 F1000  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                G1 H2 Z-5 F5000 ; lower Z again
                G90               ; absolute positioning
                

                homex

                ; homex.g
                ; called to home the X axis
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue Jun 08 2021 18:16:58 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                G91               ; relative positioning
                G1 H2 Z5 F24000  ; lift Z relative to current position
                G1 H1 X-300 F5000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                G1 H2 X5 F5000   ; go back a few mm
                G1 H1 X-300 F1000  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                G1 H2 Z-5 F24000 ; lower Z again
                G90               ; absolute positioning
                

                homey

                ; homey.g
                ; called to home the Y axis
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue Jun 08 2021 18:16:58 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                G91               ; relative positioning
                G1 H2 Z5 F25000  ; lift Z relative to current position
                G1 H1 Y-235 F5000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                G1 H2 Y5 F5000   ; go back a few mm
                G1 H1 Y-235 F1000  ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
                G1 H2 Z-5 F25000 ; lower Z again
                G90               ; absolute positioning
                

                homez

                G91 ; relative mode
                G1 H2 Z5 F5000 ; raise head 15mm to ensure it is above the Z probe trigger height
                G90 ; back to absolute mode
                G1 H1 U300 F5000  	; move U CARRIAGE out of the way
                G1 X120 Y110 F5000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
                G30 ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height
                
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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @terbospaghetti
                  last edited by

                  @terbospaghetti

                  homeall - the last 3 lines seem odd

                  homeu - seriously odd

                  Also if you don't already do it your bed.g file after doing a leveling the bed you need to set the Z=0 datum again with G30.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • terbospaghettiundefined
                    terbospaghetti @fcwilt
                    last edited by

                    @fcwilt said in T1 moves in X without being asked.:

                    @terbospaghetti

                    homeall - the last 3 lines seem odd

                    homeu - seriously odd

                    Also if you don't already do it your bed.g file after doing a leveling the bed you need to set the Z=0 datum again with G30.

                    Frederick

                    Hey Frederick, none of that is relevant to the question being asked here. Do you have anything of value to add?

                    I've already stated that the machine is a work in progress. If you don't have anything helpful to add, maybe don't post anything in a thread next time.

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                    • alankilianundefined
                      alankilian @terbospaghetti
                      last edited by alankilian

                      @terbospaghetti

                      I get that it's sometimes frustrating to receive help from forum volunteers that's not <specifically> what you are asking for.

                      Please accept the free help even if it's not perfect.
                      This forum runs on helpful volunteers as well as professionals. We need the volunteers to continue helping this community.

                      It's quite fine to ignore helpyness you aren't interested in receiving, but please do not encourage people not to post. It makes everyone less likely to try and help you or the next person in line with a question.

                      I do not know anything about your printer, so I can't be helpful for this problem, but maybe I can help you another time in the future.

                      SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                      • terbospaghettiundefined
                        terbospaghetti @alankilian
                        last edited by

                        @alankilian consider this constructive criticism in that spirit.

                        Help that didn't get asked for isn't help at all. Quite the opposite in fact.

                        And I'd repeat my criticism for your post, do you have anything of value to add here? If not, maybe the forum would be best served by your going help someone with something that you understand?

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                        • gloomyandyundefined
                          gloomyandy @terbospaghetti
                          last edited by

                          @terbospaghetti Is there a line missing from your homeall.g file? If not it looks like it will leave you set in relative mode, which may not be what you intend. I doubt if that will be causing your strange movement problem though. You may want to connect via USB and enable gcode debug by using M111 P3 S1 then run your test, the output may provide a clue as to what is going on.

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @terbospaghetti
                            last edited by

                            @terbospaghetti said in T1 moves in X without being asked.:

                            I've already stated that the machine is a work in progress. If you don't have anything helpful to add, maybe don't post anything in a thread next time.

                            What a wonderful attitude. I will indeed refrain from intruding.

                            I will just add this one thought. My printers all work.

                            Goodbye

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              I was going to put some time and effort into going over your files closely, but your attitude has dampened my enthusiasm. I'd rather spend some time with my family. Maybe tomorrow if you can manage to show some contrition between now and then. I don't want to leave you with nothing though, so have you seen this? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringMultipleIndependentXcarriagesCartesian

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              • mikeabuilderundefined
                                mikeabuilder
                                last edited by mikeabuilder

                                I'll risk the flames... and this is a guess. What you describe is one axis (U) moving when you are commanding a different axis (Z) to move. One possibility is that you have a motor assignment saved in firmware. M584 does not eliminate previous mappings. To test, in your config.g, add an M18 to clear all motor assignments (M18 X Y Z A B C D U V W ). This needs to be before the M584 command. I have this in my config.g as a matter of personal policy.

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                                • oliofundefined
                                  oliof
                                  last edited by oliof

                                  @terbospaghetti said in T1 moves in X without being asked.:

                                  G10 P1 X0.1 Y-0.6 Z0.265 ; set tool 1 axis offsets

                                  This line is sufficiently different to my IDEX configuration that I believe your X offset on T1 may be related to this issue. On my printer with an X span of 235 mm the minimum distance between the nozzles is 58.5mm to avoid them crashing into each other, so my X offset is just that (Y offset is unrelated and Z offset is 0 because I can adjust the height of the hotend):

                                  G10 P1 X58.5 Y-14 Z0 R0 S0 
                                  

                                  This is a pure shot in the dark, but maybe it helps you figure out what's oing on.

                                  <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                                  • terbospaghettiundefined
                                    terbospaghetti @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @fcwilt said in T1 moves in X without being asked.:

                                    @terbospaghetti said in T1 moves in X without being asked.:

                                    I've already stated that the machine is a work in progress. If you don't have anything helpful to add, maybe don't post anything in a thread next time.

                                    What a wonderful attitude. I will indeed refrain from intruding.

                                    I will just add this one thought. My printers all work.

                                    Goodbye

                                    This kind of holier-than-thou attitude is exactly why I hesitate to come near this forum in the first place. You don't wanna come near an issue unless you get the chance to pick at any little detail.

                                    All of you go fuck yourselves, I'm glad I bought clones.

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