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    • peirofundefined
      peirof @peirof
      last edited by

      @peirof

      new info...

      i have try to send a G28, with Putty, and obtained this response:

      G28
      Error: Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range<LF>
      

      Can be that PSU has down?

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @peirof
        last edited by

        @peirof if you look at the M122 output, its showing that theres no input voltage

        Supply voltage: min 0.0, current 0.0, max 0.0
        

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • peirofundefined
          peirof @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk power its on, i am with usb connection, and power on...

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @peirof
            last edited by

            @peirof do you have a multimeter to check the power from the PSU?
            Also check all the fuses if you haven't already

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • peirofundefined
              peirof @jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              @jay_s_uk

              thanks i will try, i put reports after

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              • peirofundefined
                peirof @peirof
                last edited by

                @peirof

                seems fuse.... but why?

                unnamed.jpg

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @peirof
                  last edited by

                  @peirof which Duet do you have, and which fuse has blown?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • peirofundefined
                    peirof @peirof
                    last edited by

                    @peirof

                    Duet v2

                    burned fuse.jpg

                    What protect this fuse?

                    I can read in fuse 7.5

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                    • peirofundefined
                      peirof @peirof
                      last edited by

                      @peirof as supossed... first must solve the issue... i have changed the fuse.... and burn fast....

                      what protect these fuse... know where i have to search

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                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                        jay_s_uk @peirof
                        last edited by

                        @peirof 11e4a656-eb2b-4e7a-96a9-ec7d8f5d602a-image.png

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        • peirofundefined
                          peirof @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by

                          @jay_s_uk thanks

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                          • peirofundefined
                            peirof @peirof
                            last edited by

                            @peirof I have not had time to prove anything ...tomorrow, but I have a question.

                            From that fuse. Does the Due Panel also depend? because it is in black

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                            • T3P3Tonyundefined
                              T3P3Tony administrators @peirof
                              last edited by

                              @peirof yes the 5V from the PanelDue is also supplied via that fuse

                              www.duet3d.com

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                              • peirofundefined
                                peirof @T3P3Tony
                                last edited by

                                @t3p3tony

                                Hi,

                                This is a thought out loud, so you can tell me the mistakes I make, since I have no experience in electronics / electricity.

                                My goal is to identify which component is shorted, and which is causing the fuse to blow.

                                The components that this fuse monitors are:

                                • Due panel
                                • Extruder Heater
                                • Extruder Stepper
                                • Axis Stepper.

                                If the fuse burns, as soon as the printer is turned on, I have to discard the components that have not received power yet ... Which leaves us alone:

                                • Due panel.

                                No? Something escapes me? Do you watch any more components?

                                A component that could cause problems is the Heater ... but if it has not received power when the fuse blows ... I do not think it is the cause of the problem

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                                • peirofundefined
                                  peirof @peirof
                                  last edited by

                                  @peirof

                                  another question that arises ...

                                  I think I remember, that there have been moments, I don't remember if now, in config.g, in M906 I have or have had a current for 1200 motors, which exceeds the protection of the fuse.

                                  Why hasn't it been burned before?

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                                  • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                    jumpedwithbothfeet @peirof
                                    last edited by

                                    @peirof Do you have a multi-meter? if your blowing a fuse the safest thing to do would be to check all your wiring for shorts before you connect anything.

                                    looking at the picture you posted above there appears to be stray strands of wire on the right most stepper connector (red wire)

                                    6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                      T3P3Tony administrators @peirof
                                      last edited by T3P3Tony

                                      @peirof said in Houston we have a problem...:

                                      A component that could cause problems is the Heater ... but if it has not received power when the fuse blows ... I do not think it is the cause of the problem

                                      Heaters are switched on the ground side not the supply side so a heater that had a short to ground would start taking power as soon as the board has power. That said its unlikely that a normal heater in normal operation will draw 7.5A+ and blow the fuse, however a faulty heater with an internal short could do.

                                      As has already been said shorts in the wiring can also be the cause, most likely is VIN to ground.

                                      It is not impossible for it to be the paneldue, but that is the most unlikely as it gets 5V so it is unlikely for it to draw enough current at 5V to blow the fuse, unless the 5V regulator has also failed short (and then you have a lot of problems as VIN on the 5V line will damage other things as well.

                                      www.duet3d.com

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                                      • peirofundefined
                                        peirof
                                        last edited by

                                        hi,

                                        think i have find it, but something its wrong....

                                        i have unplugged:

                                        A)- First

                                        • Heater
                                        • Steppers motors
                                        • Panel Due

                                        B)- Second

                                        • I have changed the burned fuse, 7,5A

                                        C)- Third

                                        • Power on Duet/Printer

                                        and....

                                        After few seconds, maybe 10s...
                                        Smoke has started to come out from the cable connecting the Zprobe to the Duet. As fast as I could I have turned off the printer, but I think it was too late ...

                                        I have disconnected the Zprobe (Precision Piezo), and I have turned on the printer ... and I think wrong ...

                                        Many lights on on the plate, and it does not respond to the orders sent by Panel Due ...

                                        I have tried to connect by Telnet ... and it has not been possible ...

                                        I think DUET has burned ...

                                        what could have happened?
                                        Is it like the new fuse didn't do its job?
                                        What are my options?

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                                        • peirofundefined
                                          peirof
                                          last edited by

                                          disaster photos

                                          b2.jpg b3.jpg b1.jpg

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                                          • peirofundefined
                                            peirof @peirof
                                            last edited by

                                            @peirof

                                            Thinking a bit about what could have happened ... the only thing I can think of is that at some point, I would have connected the Precision Piezo in reverse ...

                                            Could this be the cause of the disaster?

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