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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
      T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
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      @wladekcz 14466bb1-382c-4f09-ae9f-f42d6efd9ac4-image.png

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      • rjenkinsgbundefined
        rjenkinsgb @Wladekcz
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        @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

        I have a problem with CR_Touch

        It is still a genuine Anclabs BL Touch probe, just in a different box and with a cable that has different colours.

        I have one on my machine with a Duet3 6HC board (on IO_7), it works fine.

        The cable with mine did not match either set of colours in the examples page.
        Just work from the wire positions on the probe connector and use the correct colour, whatever is fitted to that connector pin, for that signal.

        Robert J.

        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators @rjenkinsgb
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          @rjenkinsgb what are the alternative cable colours used? we can add those to the documentation. Cheers!

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          • rjenkinsgbundefined
            rjenkinsgb
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            White, black, yellow, red, blue.
            The red & blue are reversed from the existing Crealty notes!

            (And thanks for asking; the close-up photo showed the cable was not quite seated fully - it is now.)

            BLTouch.jpg

            Robert J.

            Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators @rjenkinsgb
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              @rjenkinsgb thanks. so ground is now red? what chaos

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              • Wladekczundefined
                Wladekcz
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                BL-Touch is a kind of semiconductor hall sensor. Creality's CR-Touch is a sensor based on optical technology.

                Władekcz

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
                  last edited by T3P3Tony

                  @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

                  CR-Touch

                  ahh so they changed to this:
                  https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-cr-touch ?

                  Have you got the pinout, data sheet, voltage levels etc?

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                  • Wladekczundefined
                    Wladekcz
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                    Yes, I have this datasheet, it still doesn't change anything.

                    Władekcz

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                    • rjenkinsgbundefined
                      rjenkinsgb
                      last edited by rjenkinsgb

                      OK, confusion! The mention of BL Touch in the original question made it appear to the the Antclabs one.

                      They appear to both use exactly the same connections & same newer colour cable as my BL version - but do have some differences in the control signal, unfortunately, as the articles mention different software/firmware addons.

                      https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-bl-touch

                      https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-cr-touch

                      Edit - looking through the installation docs for the new CR touch, it still uses the BL Touch firmware - so presumably it does use the same signals?? Possibly just a custom BL Touch version for them?

                      Robert J.

                      Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                      • Wladekczundefined
                        Wladekcz
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                        I am sending photos and files: configuration, M122.

                        config_g.txt
                        config-override _g.txt
                        M122.txt
                        sensor CR.jpg
                        sensor CR-QR.jpg
                        kabel-1.jpg
                        kabel2.jpg
                        kabel-3.jpg

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                        • rjenkinsgbundefined
                          rjenkinsgb
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                          Where you show the plug and socket linking the two cables, the wire sequence from the probe is reversed.

                          I believe it should be, without rearranging the plug at the Duet board end:

                          Probe white and red to duet red.
                          Probe black to duet black
                          Probe yellow to duet blue
                          Probe blue to duet green

                          Robert J.

                          Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                          • Wladekczundefined
                            Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                            @rjenkinsgb creality.jpg

                            Yes you are right, this is another attempt, in the previous version "IN" and "OUT" were swapped and the effect was the same. I am thinking about the resistor but I do not know where to connect it.

                            Władekcz

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                            • rjenkinsgbundefined
                              rjenkinsgb
                              last edited by

                              The power (+5v) and ground are still reversed!

                              Change it to match the connections I put in my last post.

                              Robert J.

                              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                              • Wladekczundefined
                                Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                                @rjenkinsgb Unfortunately, the reversal of 5+ and the ground did not give the expected effect. The core was not ejected. M401 and M402 do not work. Robert please check config_g.
                                It is like this
                                "; Probe Z
                                M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                                M558 P9 C "! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                                G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                                M557 X30: 280 Y30: 280 S30
                                Shouldn't it be like this:
                                M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                                M558 P9 C "^! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                                G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                                M557 X30: 280 Y30: 280 S30

                                Władekcz

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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
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                                  @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

                                  M558 P9 C "^! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000

                                  no you should not have the pullup (^) on the input pin. Also if its the same as a normal BL touch from a signal perspective then the signal inversion (!) is also not needed so try:

                                  M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                                  M558 P9 C "Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                                  

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                                  • Wladekczundefined
                                    Wladekcz @T3P3Tony
                                    last edited by Wladekcz

                                    @t3p3tony I connected the sensor cable directly to the connector on the Duet3. After connecting the power, the sensor turned blue.

                                    IMG_20211103_144048.jpg

                                    Still not working properly. I measured the tensions between the cables. Between the ground and 5+ "4.9V". Between ground and white and yellow "4.88V". I read on the wiki that out and in only tolerate 3.3V. Do you have any suggestions.

                                    IMG_20211103_144159.jpg

                                    Władekcz

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                                    • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                      rjenkinsgb
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                                      This is my BLTouch config:

                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M950 S0 C"io7.out"                           ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                      M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H5 F100 T6000             ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                      G31 P500 X-46 Y4.5 Z2.840                    ; set Z probe trig value, offset (from TC face centre)+ trigger height
                                      M557 X0:240 Y10:270 S20                      ; define mesh grid
                                      

                                      You need to adjust the offsets and grid to suit your machine.

                                      It is unfortunately possible that it may have been damaged by having the positive and negative power reversed.

                                      Robert J.

                                      Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                      • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                        rjenkinsgb
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                                        From that photo, you still have some wires wrong.

                                        With the Duet connector as shown above:

                                        The first pin on the left should be just black (+5V)
                                        Second pin: Yellow; OK (Out from Duet, In to probe)..
                                        Third pin: Red and White; (Grounds).
                                        Fourth pin: Blue (Out of probe, In on duet).
                                        Fifth pin: No connection; OK.

                                        Robert J.

                                        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                        • Wladekczundefined
                                          Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                                          @rjenkinsgb This was the case in the previous version and you suggested that I change what I did. Take a look at the previous photos. So I have to return to the original version. Red - 5+, yellow - in, black with blue - ground, white - out, empty - 3.3V

                                          Władekcz

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                                          • Wladekczundefined
                                            Wladekcz
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                                            @rjenkinsgb said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:
                                            I connected according to your last instruction. The sensor glows blue, the core is hidden. Will not respond to M401 / M402. Without the "!" With Probe 1000. In your configuration "M558 P9 C" ^ io7.in "H5 F100 T6000" appears "^" And I don't know if it should be or not

                                            IMG_20211104_074430.jpg
                                            Bez tytułu.gif
                                            M122.txt

                                            config,g.txt

                                            Władekcz

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