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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
      T3P3Tony administrators @rjenkinsgb
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      @rjenkinsgb thanks. so ground is now red? what chaos

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      • Wladekczundefined
        Wladekcz
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        BL-Touch is a kind of semiconductor hall sensor. Creality's CR-Touch is a sensor based on optical technology.

        Władekcz

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
          last edited by T3P3Tony

          @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

          CR-Touch

          ahh so they changed to this:
          https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-cr-touch ?

          Have you got the pinout, data sheet, voltage levels etc?

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          • Wladekczundefined
            Wladekcz
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            Yes, I have this datasheet, it still doesn't change anything.

            Władekcz

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            • rjenkinsgbundefined
              rjenkinsgb
              last edited by rjenkinsgb

              OK, confusion! The mention of BL Touch in the original question made it appear to the the Antclabs one.

              They appear to both use exactly the same connections & same newer colour cable as my BL version - but do have some differences in the control signal, unfortunately, as the articles mention different software/firmware addons.

              https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-bl-touch

              https://www.creality3dofficial.com/products/creality-cr-touch

              Edit - looking through the installation docs for the new CR touch, it still uses the BL Touch firmware - so presumably it does use the same signals?? Possibly just a custom BL Touch version for them?

              Robert J.

              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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              • Wladekczundefined
                Wladekcz
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                I am sending photos and files: configuration, M122.

                config_g.txt
                config-override _g.txt
                M122.txt
                sensor CR.jpg
                sensor CR-QR.jpg
                kabel-1.jpg
                kabel2.jpg
                kabel-3.jpg

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                • rjenkinsgbundefined
                  rjenkinsgb
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                  Where you show the plug and socket linking the two cables, the wire sequence from the probe is reversed.

                  I believe it should be, without rearranging the plug at the Duet board end:

                  Probe white and red to duet red.
                  Probe black to duet black
                  Probe yellow to duet blue
                  Probe blue to duet green

                  Robert J.

                  Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                  • Wladekczundefined
                    Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                    @rjenkinsgb creality.jpg

                    Yes you are right, this is another attempt, in the previous version "IN" and "OUT" were swapped and the effect was the same. I am thinking about the resistor but I do not know where to connect it.

                    Władekcz

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                    • rjenkinsgbundefined
                      rjenkinsgb
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                      The power (+5v) and ground are still reversed!

                      Change it to match the connections I put in my last post.

                      Robert J.

                      Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                      • Wladekczundefined
                        Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                        @rjenkinsgb Unfortunately, the reversal of 5+ and the ground did not give the expected effect. The core was not ejected. M401 and M402 do not work. Robert please check config_g.
                        It is like this
                        "; Probe Z
                        M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                        M558 P9 C "! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                        G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                        M557 X30: 280 Y30: 280 S30
                        Shouldn't it be like this:
                        M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                        M558 P9 C "^! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                        G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                        M557 X30: 280 Y30: 280 S30

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators @Wladekcz
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                          @wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

                          M558 P9 C "^! Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000

                          no you should not have the pullup (^) on the input pin. Also if its the same as a normal BL touch from a signal perspective then the signal inversion (!) is also not needed so try:

                          M950 S0 C "io7.out"
                          M558 P9 C "Io7.in" H5 F120 T6000
                          

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                          • Wladekczundefined
                            Wladekcz @T3P3Tony
                            last edited by Wladekcz

                            @t3p3tony I connected the sensor cable directly to the connector on the Duet3. After connecting the power, the sensor turned blue.

                            IMG_20211103_144048.jpg

                            Still not working properly. I measured the tensions between the cables. Between the ground and 5+ "4.9V". Between ground and white and yellow "4.88V". I read on the wiki that out and in only tolerate 3.3V. Do you have any suggestions.

                            IMG_20211103_144159.jpg

                            Władekcz

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                            • rjenkinsgbundefined
                              rjenkinsgb
                              last edited by

                              This is my BLTouch config:

                              ; Z-Probe
                              M950 S0 C"io7.out"                           ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                              M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H5 F100 T6000             ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                              G31 P500 X-46 Y4.5 Z2.840                    ; set Z probe trig value, offset (from TC face centre)+ trigger height
                              M557 X0:240 Y10:270 S20                      ; define mesh grid
                              

                              You need to adjust the offsets and grid to suit your machine.

                              It is unfortunately possible that it may have been damaged by having the positive and negative power reversed.

                              Robert J.

                              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                              • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                rjenkinsgb
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                                From that photo, you still have some wires wrong.

                                With the Duet connector as shown above:

                                The first pin on the left should be just black (+5V)
                                Second pin: Yellow; OK (Out from Duet, In to probe)..
                                Third pin: Red and White; (Grounds).
                                Fourth pin: Blue (Out of probe, In on duet).
                                Fifth pin: No connection; OK.

                                Robert J.

                                Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                • Wladekczundefined
                                  Wladekcz @rjenkinsgb
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                                  @rjenkinsgb This was the case in the previous version and you suggested that I change what I did. Take a look at the previous photos. So I have to return to the original version. Red - 5+, yellow - in, black with blue - ground, white - out, empty - 3.3V

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                                  • Wladekczundefined
                                    Wladekcz
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                                    @rjenkinsgb said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:
                                    I connected according to your last instruction. The sensor glows blue, the core is hidden. Will not respond to M401 / M402. Without the "!" With Probe 1000. In your configuration "M558 P9 C" ^ io7.in "H5 F100 T6000" appears "^" And I don't know if it should be or not

                                    IMG_20211104_074430.jpg
                                    Bez tytułu.gif
                                    M122.txt

                                    config,g.txt

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                                    • Wladekczundefined
                                      Wladekcz
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                                      I measured the voltage on the sensor:
                                      red - yellow 0.115Volt
                                      red - blue 1.583V
                                      red - black 4.905V
                                      black - yellow 0.115V
                                      black - blue 1.583V

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                                      • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                        rjenkinsgb
                                        last edited by rjenkinsgb

                                        OK; that wiring is now exactly the same as my fully working probe + 6HC setup.
                                        I have just done a continuity check from the probe to the board to 100% confirm that is how it is connected.

                                        The Crealty diagram shows the CL version uses exactly the same electrical wiring as the BL one.

                                        So, either the Crealty documentation is wrong re. the probe control values etc. and it needs different parameters in the config file compared to a BL-Touch, or the probe has been damaged by reverse supply connections earlier on..

                                        Robert J.

                                        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                        • wayneosdiasundefined
                                          wayneosdias
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                                          @Wladekcz said in Creality CR Touch Sensor:

                                          G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5

                                          I know this old but I just went thru same issue; Min 5+ and CR Touch
                                          Probe would deploy/retract and trigger, but not reset post probing. In DWC the reported value was 1000.
                                          I changed Duet configurator supplied G31;

                                          G31 P500 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                                          

                                          to

                                          G31 P1000 X30 Y30 Z2.5
                                          

                                          It all seems to work fine now. Given I never had a miss wire so there still be a HW issue w that.

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