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    • eddygaraundefined
      eddygara
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      As the title says, ive recently decided to move all my deltas over to duet 3s, (thinking this would be an easy ans smart move).. Either way, its been a struggle but im almost there. My latest issue has been the heat sink fan not working. Can someone please guide me, the online guide is not very easy to follow once you start adding all these extra factors.

      I have me fan connected to Out5 as suggested on the Smart effector guide, (even tho the duet 3 guide says out4...)

      I have the 12v jumper on the smart effector so my lights are not dim.

      My settings im not even sure where to start. thanks in advance! !IMG_2462(1).jpg )

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @eddygara
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        @eddygara you've got out5 mapped twice. Where are both fans connected?

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • eddygaraundefined
          eddygara @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk I honestly don’t know man. I’m so confused by this set up vs the WiFi version.

          I have the wires connected to my heat sink fan via out5 on the duet 3 board, snd then that connected to my duet smart effector.

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @eddygara
            last edited by

            @eddygara then comment out the F0 and P0 lines. Add a ; in front

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • eddygaraundefined
              eddygara @jay_s_uk
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              @jay_s_uk just did still no luck

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              • rjenkinsgbundefined
                rjenkinsgb @eddygara
                last edited by

                @eddygara said in Duet 3 heatsink fan not working with smart effector:

                just did still no luck

                Are you waiting for the hotend to get above 45'C, as that's what is defined for the fan turn-on temperature?

                Robert J.

                Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  Can you post your full config.g as text here?
                  Also can you send M98 P"config.g" and post the results?

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                  • eddygaraundefined
                    eddygara @Phaedrux
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                    @phaedrux config.g

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                    • eddygaraundefined
                      eddygara @rjenkinsgb
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                      @rjenkinsgb ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.0 on Sun Jan 03 2021 21:41:01 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                      ; General preferences
                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                      M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
                      M665 R144 L290 B140 H282.90 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                      M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                      M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 ; set drive mapping
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z160.00 E833.16 ; set steps per mm
                      M566 X120000.00 Y120000.00 Z120000.00 E120000.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X1080000.00 Y1080000.00 Z1080000.00 E1080000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X4200.00 Y4200.00 Z4200.00 E5000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 Z-20 S1 ; set minimum Z

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X2 S1 P"io0.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
                      M574 Y2 S1 P"io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
                      M574 Z2 S1 P"io2.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in

                      ; Z-Probe
                      M558 P1 C"io3.in" H30 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                      M558 H30 ;*** Remove this line after delta calibration has been done and new delta parameters have been saved
                      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                      M557 R85 S20

                      ; Heaters
                      M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                      M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M308 S1 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
                      M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                      M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                      ; Fans
                      ;M950 F0 C"out5" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin ;out5 and set its frequency
                      ;M106 P0 S1 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                      M950 F1 C"out5" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                      ; Custom settings are not defined

                      ; Miscellaneous
                      M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                        ; Fans
                        M950 F0 C"out5" Q500                                 ; create fan 0 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                        M106 P0 S1 H-1                                       ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                        M950 F1 C"out5" Q500                                 ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                    ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                        

                        So you're using out5 twice here. You'll need to trace back your wiring and identify which fan is connected where. Right now you're trying to define the part cooling fan and the heatsink fan to the same output.

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                        • eddygaraundefined
                          eddygara @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @phaedrux look at the latest post they are turned off. I try to figure out which one was working. Neither start the fan. Wiring is hooked up to OUT5 as the smart effector recommendations suggest

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            It's currently set as a thermostatic fan to turn on when the heat sink gets above 45c. Are you test ing that way?

                            To force the fan on you can send M106 P1 S1 H-1 Does that work?

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                            • eddygaraundefined
                              eddygara @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @phaedrux yes i have

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                              • eddygaraundefined
                                eddygara @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @phaedrux can confirm fan doest work, must be wiring. but again these "how too config docs" are all over the place and do not have any good indication of how to set these up correctly in my opinion.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Well you have set it up correctly other than using the output pin twice. If it's a bad wire or some other damage that can make it seem like it's not setup correctly.

                                  Can you connect the fan directly to the out5 pins to test to eliminate the wiring in between? If it still doesn't work, connect the fan to VIN and see if it's the fan itself or the out5 pins.

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                                  • eddygaraundefined
                                    eddygara @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux so I went ahead and tired this. My issue still remains. Can someone please help me diagnose this issue. Or else I’m stuck with 3 boards that can’t work for my machines.

                                    I’m still using the out5 pin. My config files are fine. I’m directly connecting to the pins. And I’ve even used different fans. Someone has to know to problem here..

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @eddygara
                                      last edited by

                                      @eddygara have you tried connecting a fan directly to OUT5 on the Duet, to check that the OUT5 output is still working?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                        rjenkinsgb @eddygara
                                        last edited by

                                        @eddygara said in Duet 3 heatsink fan not working with smart effector:

                                        Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)

                                        The last config you posted still showed out5 used in two different places - that cannot work as intended.

                                        This is the heat & fan section from my config for a delta with smart effector, using a Duet3 6HC board.

                                        I have no problems with heaters or fans; the heatsink fan turns on at 45'C and the part fan runs as set by the slicer G code.

                                        ; Heaters
                                        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" A"Bed" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                        M950 H0 C"out0" T0                            ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00                              ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                        M140 H0                                       ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S120                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        ;
                                        M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"PT1000" A"Tool"            ; configure sensor 1 as a PT1000 on pin temp1
                                        M950 H1 C"out1" T1                            ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00                              ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                        M143 H1 S280                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                        
                                        ; Fans
                                        ; Part cooling
                                        M950 F0 C"out4" Q500                          ; create fan 0 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P0 S0 H-1                                ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;
                                        ; Hotend heatsink
                                        M950 F1 C"out5" Q500                          ; create fan 1 on pin out6 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                             ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        
                                        

                                        The tool sensor type is different to yours and will need changing back to the 100K thermistor rather than the PT1000.

                                        If you are still not sure, post a photo of the Duet board showing what's connected where??

                                        Robert J.

                                        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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