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    Freddiester @o_lampe
    last edited by 10 Mar 2022, 16:29

    @o_lampe I picked i3 hardware because it's common and inexpensive. I have another machine built into coreXY but they work quite similar in principal. I assume it is harder to implement the kinematics on delta.

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      RAFFACNC @Freddiester
      last edited by RAFFACNC 3 Nov 2022, 06:09 11 Mar 2022, 06:07

      @freddiester
      thank you so much, in git hub insert a link for donations, for support your project.

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        T3P3Tony administrators @Freddiester
        last edited by 12 Mar 2022, 08:58

        @freddiester really interesting work, thanks for sharing it here!

        @xyzdims is also doing interesting work in this area.
        (https://xyzdims.com/)
        As are others on this forum.

        This has felt like a chicken and egg issue for a while: not a huge amount of focus on the hardware because there were not a lot of optins on the software tool chain side. Similarly not a lot of work on the software because there were few hardware options available. I think the corner is being turned in that regard!

        www.duet3d.com

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          T3P3Tony administrators @Freddiester
          last edited by 31 Mar 2022, 07:34

          This was great to see in person at 3d Meetup Sweden

          Would love to hear from anyone else who is planning on building one!

          www.duet3d.com

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            o_lampe @T3P3Tony
            last edited by 31 Mar 2022, 11:04

            @t3p3tony said in 5-axis 3D printer on Prusa i3:

            Would love to hear from anyone else who is planning on building one!

            I don't have enough imagination to see what else could be printed by it?
            OTOH, I proposed this rotary table to my friends in a laser-forum, where I'm currently working on 2.5D laser engraving (aka powermapping)

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              T3P3Tony administrators @o_lampe
              last edited by 31 Mar 2022, 11:16

              @o_lampe this has so much potential both for support less printing, and for non planar printing where the layers are oriented and optimised for the shapes function.

              www.duet3d.com

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                o_lampe @T3P3Tony
                last edited by 1 Apr 2022, 07:17

                @t3p3tony said in 5-axis 3D printer on Prusa i3:

                where the layers are oriented and optimised for the shapes function.

                I see, but the blades of the propellers from the example prints are no good example then. Their strength relies completely on layer bonding, which IMHO is the weakest. (except for ABS cured afterwards)

                In other words: I want to see more prints 😀

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                  T3P3Tony administrators @o_lampe
                  last edited by 1 Apr 2022, 08:26

                  @o_lampe said in 5-axis 3D printer on Prusa i3:

                  Their strength relies completely on layer bonding, which IMHO is the weakest

                  For some materials printed incorrectly this is true (e.g. HIPS at too low temperatures) but is interesting to see research done to show that interlayer adhesion is not always the dominant failure mode:
                  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341289167_Interlayer_bonding_has_bulk-material_strength_in_extrusion_additive_manufacturing_New_understanding_of_anisotropy

                  That said the ability to orient the extrusion path with more freedom using 5 axis printing will certainly help in a lot of situations, especially when continuous fibre tools are used.

                  www.duet3d.com

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                    CNCModeller
                    last edited by 2 Apr 2022, 07:35

                    Hi All,
                    Seems to me that if we could find a way to print a first wall in the optimum direction for printing and then wrap a second around that core with the filament direction aligned for strength this would be an optimal solution. It'd be a bit like a fibre placement machine.

                    Very impressive 👍👍👍

                    Looking forward to seeing how the slicer works too.

                    All the best
                    Barry M

                    Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
                    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWjZVEdMv1BY82izahK45qKh-hp3NFkix
                    Wanhao D4S: Duet2
                    https://forum.duet3d.com/post/296755
                    K40 Laser, Duet2
                    https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
                    Wanhao D5S
                    https://www.youtube.com/CNCModellerUK

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                      T3P3Tony administrators @CNCModeller
                      last edited by 4 Apr 2022, 12:30

                      @cncmodeller the "slicer" is currently written in grasshopper which is part of the CAD software Rhino.

                      @xyzdims is working on open source slicing options for non planarity, I highly recommend following his blog.

                      www.duet3d.com

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                        CNCModeller @T3P3Tony
                        last edited by 5 Apr 2022, 07:24

                        @t3p3tony said in 5-axis 3D printer on Prusa i3:

                        @cncmodeller the "slicer" is currently written in grasshopper which is part of the CAD software Rhino.

                        Thanks for the heads up. I'll have a look when I have some spare headroom.

                        It'd be interesting if the approach could be ported over to Fusion 360 as they have a fully integrated CAM approach.

                        I've often wondered if a 5 axis 3D surface toolpath with a ball end mill would work as a way to generate a wrap layer for such an application.

                        Anyway great stuff!

                        Cheers
                        Barry M

                        Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
                        https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWjZVEdMv1BY82izahK45qKh-hp3NFkix
                        Wanhao D4S: Duet2
                        https://forum.duet3d.com/post/296755
                        K40 Laser, Duet2
                        https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
                        Wanhao D5S
                        https://www.youtube.com/CNCModellerUK

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