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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk @tecno
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      @tecno might be a good idea to post your whole config and an output of M98 P"config.g"

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • tecnoundefined
        tecno @jay_s_uk
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        @jay_s_uk

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk @tecno
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          @tecno well there you go. use P8 and not P5

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @jay_s_uk
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            @jay_s_uk

            a61bae5c-9ac9-475e-a5c0-a73e2738dc4c-config.g

            Hard DIVE into the bed, led on probe lights up but no reaction to that

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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk @tecno
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              @tecno maybe you don't need the pullup?
              best to check these things far away from the bed rather than relying on that as a last resort

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @jay_s_uk
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                @jay_s_uk
                M558 C"!121.io0.in" P8 H10 F120 T8000

                With probe not triggered Prove value is 0 triggered is 0

                If I set probe not inverted Probe value is 1000 triggered still 1000

                No change whatever I try

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk @tecno
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                  @tecno maybe you need a diode as detailed here https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Z_probe_connecting#npn-output-normally-open-inductive-or-capacitive-sensor?
                  other than that, no idea

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • infiniteloopundefined
                    infiniteloop @tecno
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                    @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                    With probe not triggered Prove value is 0 triggered is 0
                    If I set probe not inverted Probe value is 1000 triggered still 1000

                    Either you have no signal on the pin, or it is constantly tied to 3.3V by the probe. Check function of the probe stand-alone with a multimeter: What voltages do you read when the probe is triggered/untriggered?

                    A third possibility might be the port being defective, but first, check your probe signal.

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                    • tecnoundefined
                      tecno @infiniteloop
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                      @infiniteloop

                      NPN and no 3.3V ! Vin as these need 6-30V

                      Vin non triggered = out Vin
                      Triggered = out under 0.6V

                      So probe is OK

                      Looks like the Tollboard is busted again 😞

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @jay_s_uk
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                        @jay_s_uk said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                        @tecno well there you go. use P8 and not P5

                        Select mode 5 (P5) in the M558 command. Invert the probe output From the manual you linked !

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @tecno
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                          @tecno https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/RepRapFirmware/CAN_limitations
                          only P8 and P9 can be used on CAN boards

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • tecnoundefined
                            tecno @jay_s_uk
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                            @jay_s_uk

                            Doh... too many variables so confusing it is.

                            How can i check port that it is working? Short GND to INP or 5V?

                            Set it as P8 so I can see Probe value 0 or 1000

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                            • infiniteloopundefined
                              infiniteloop @tecno
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                              @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                              Vin non triggered = out Vin

                              Do I understand this right: The signal has 6-30V non-triggered?

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                              • tecnoundefined
                                tecno @infiniteloop
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                                @infiniteloop

                                Yes

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                                • infiniteloopundefined
                                  infiniteloop @tecno
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                                  @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                                  Yes

                                  Then you've fried the port. 😢

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                                  • tecnoundefined
                                    tecno @infiniteloop
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                                    @infiniteloop

                                    That is what I suspect, not the first toolboard to go south on me.

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                                    • infiniteloopundefined
                                      infiniteloop @tecno
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                                      @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                                      How can i check port that it is working? Short GND to INP or 5V?

                                      Yes, you can short GND to INP. Does this trigger the endstop?

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                                      • tecnoundefined
                                        tecno @infiniteloop
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                                        @infiniteloop said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                                        @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                                        How can i check port that it is working? Short GND to INP or 5V?

                                        Yes, you can short GND to INP. Does this trigger the endstop?

                                        not shorted = value is 0
                                        shorted = value is 1000

                                        So go figure what is wrong, I only have 1N4148 diode's at hand no BAT´s

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                                        • infiniteloopundefined
                                          infiniteloop @tecno
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                                          @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                                          not shorted = value is 0
                                          shorted = value is 1000

                                          That's good news, the board still works. Your test means that the probe doesn't pull down the signal strong enough to trigger. Try the diode - according to the documentation, this might work:

                                          The diode should preferably be a small-signal Schottky diode such as BAT43 or BAT85, but a small signal silicon diode such as 1N4148 works for some people.

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                                          • tecnoundefined
                                            tecno @infiniteloop
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                                            @infiniteloop

                                            Already tried the diod = no go

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