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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk @tecno
      last edited by

      @tecno https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/RepRapFirmware/CAN_limitations
      only P8 and P9 can be used on CAN boards

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • tecnoundefined
        tecno @jay_s_uk
        last edited by

        @jay_s_uk

        Doh... too many variables so confusing it is.

        How can i check port that it is working? Short GND to INP or 5V?

        Set it as P8 so I can see Probe value 0 or 1000

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        • infiniteloopundefined
          infiniteloop @tecno
          last edited by

          @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

          Vin non triggered = out Vin

          Do I understand this right: The signal has 6-30V non-triggered?

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @infiniteloop
            last edited by

            @infiniteloop

            Yes

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            • infiniteloopundefined
              infiniteloop @tecno
              last edited by

              @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

              Yes

              Then you've fried the port. 😢

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @infiniteloop
                last edited by

                @infiniteloop

                That is what I suspect, not the first toolboard to go south on me.

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                • infiniteloopundefined
                  infiniteloop @tecno
                  last edited by

                  @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                  How can i check port that it is working? Short GND to INP or 5V?

                  Yes, you can short GND to INP. Does this trigger the endstop?

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                  • tecnoundefined
                    tecno @infiniteloop
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                    @infiniteloop said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                    @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                    How can i check port that it is working? Short GND to INP or 5V?

                    Yes, you can short GND to INP. Does this trigger the endstop?

                    not shorted = value is 0
                    shorted = value is 1000

                    So go figure what is wrong, I only have 1N4148 diode's at hand no BAT´s

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                    • infiniteloopundefined
                      infiniteloop @tecno
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                      @tecno said in Toolboard + NO NPN probe:

                      not shorted = value is 0
                      shorted = value is 1000

                      That's good news, the board still works. Your test means that the probe doesn't pull down the signal strong enough to trigger. Try the diode - according to the documentation, this might work:

                      The diode should preferably be a small-signal Schottky diode such as BAT43 or BAT85, but a small signal silicon diode such as 1N4148 works for some people.

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @infiniteloop
                        last edited by

                        @infiniteloop

                        Already tried the diod = no go

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                        • infiniteloopundefined
                          infiniteloop @tecno
                          last edited by

                          @tecno Hm, I'm guessing, but maybe a pull-down resistor between GND and INP might help. Can't tell you a value, though, but I would start with something like 10k - and go down until the probe triggers reliably.

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                          • martin7404undefined
                            martin7404
                            last edited by martin7404

                            I syrongly sugest using NC probe

                            ; Z-Probe
                            M671 X-31.39:250:531.36 Y-18:433.3:-18 S10       ; Locations left, center, right   
                            M558 P8 C"121.io2.in"  H3 F1000 T6000 A20 S0.005 ; PINDA set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                            
                            

                            This is for my superpinda with duet 3 and toolboard

                            Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                            Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                            Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                            custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                            • tecnoundefined
                              tecno @infiniteloop
                              last edited by

                              I found one PNP that I now have tried = same issue.

                              Found other with better sense distance that I prefere.

                              IFS208-00_EN-GB.pdf

                              How do I connect this one, if possible the 2 wire Vin + io0 in ?

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @tecno
                                last edited by dc42

                                @tecno if shorting input to ground changes the Z probe reading from 0 to 1000 then an NPN output probe connected correctly should work. You do not need to use a diode.

                                Are you sure it is NPN output?

                                Are you sure you have connected it correctly?

                                Does it have a LED on it to indicate when it is triggered?

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @dc42
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                                  @dc42
                                  Label says NPN NO

                                  std coloring on wires BN to +, BK out and BU to -. Load BK to BN so it should be NPN right?
                                  Vin to BN
                                  GND on 121.io0 to BU
                                  BK to 121.io0 input

                                  Yes LED indicates Trig

                                  Tried without and with 1N4148 Diode, Inverted - Non inverted - Pull up no pullup

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                                  • tecnoundefined
                                    tecno @tecno
                                    last edited by tecno

                                    Now I have yet another probe = IFS208 and now it works.

                                    Suspect these bloody mini crimp connectors again = they are not up to par what is needed for a good connector.

                                    So a Toolboard V2 with new bigger common crimp connectors PLEASE. I see no need to scale down this board to be hard to work with. I suggested earlier that toolboard to be delivered with pre crimped pigtails.
                                    All in all it is too wimpy with the assembly with board connector housing not properly seated.

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @tecno
                                      last edited by

                                      probe = IFS208 = Too long so it does not fit.

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                                      • tecnoundefined
                                        tecno @tecno
                                        last edited by

                                        Back to the NPN NO probe, now it works.
                                        M558 C"!121.io0.in" P8 H10 F120 T8000

                                        So bad crimp was the issue.

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