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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by

      @jrcl

      Try one of the Duex5 pins that have pwm in the name. Not all output pins can generate PWM signals.

      !duex.pwm1
      !duex.pwm2
      !duex.pwm3
      !duex.pwm4
      !duex.pwm5

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • JoergS5undefined
        JoergS5 @JRCL
        last edited by JoergS5

        @jrcl said in Servo Configuration Check:

        a M280 S0 P90 command

        hello, the command is P0 for servo index, not S.
        M280 P0 S90
        (an example of mutliple traps where the letter changes for the same thing)

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        • JRCLundefined
          JRCL @JoergS5
          last edited by

          @joergs5 Whoops! A mistype on my part in the post the correct command still does nothing. It's been since edited.

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          • JRCLundefined
            JRCL @fcwilt
            last edited by

            @fcwilt Gave this a try to no avail. Realized that my BL Touch was assigned to S0 so changed to

            M950 S1 C"!duex.pwm2"

            and after sending a M280 P1 S90, still got no response.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Please try M950 S1 C"!duex.pwm2" but without the !

              And you're for sure using the pwm2 header?

              Photo of your wiring?

              https://docs.duet3d.com/duet_boards/duet_2_expansion/duex_wiring_v0.11_d1.0.png

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              • alankilianundefined
                alankilian @JRCL
                last edited by

                @jrcl

                Do you have the ground of the 5 Volt output connected to the ground on the Duet?

                If it's isolated then you would need the grounds tied together.
                (somewhat unlikely, but who knows)

                SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                • JRCLundefined
                  JRCL @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux Tried without the ! and here is my wiring diagram and circled the pin on the duex to be safe. Still no dice.

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                  • JRCLundefined
                    JRCL @alankilian
                    last edited by JRCL

                    @alankilian just posted my abridged wiring diagram above. I don't think that's isolated, but maybe?

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @JRCL
                      last edited by

                      @jrcl said in Servo Configuration Check:

                      @alankilian just posted my abridged wiring diagram above. I don't think that's isolated, but maybe?

                      Do you perhaps have an oscilloscope you could check the PWM signal with? It may not be meeting the requirements for your servo.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • JRCLundefined
                        JRCL @fcwilt
                        last edited by

                        @fcwilt I don't unfortunately. I'm no electrical engineer, but could I use some sort of amplification module on the signal? Not sure if PWM signals work like that/or can be amplified like that.

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                        • JRCLundefined
                          JRCL @JRCL
                          last edited by

                          @jrcl said in Servo Configuration Check:

                          @fcwilt I don't unfortunately. I'm no electrical engineer, but could I use some sort of amplification module on the signal? Not sure if PWM signals work like that/or can be amplified like that.

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                          Managed to find the control signal specs. What are the PWM signals on the Duex able to supply?

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @JRCL
                            last edited by

                            @jrcl said in Servo Configuration Check:

                            @fcwilt I don't unfortunately. I'm no electrical engineer, but could I use some sort of amplification module on the signal? Not sure if PWM signals work like that/or can be amplified like that.

                            A PWM signal as used to drive a servo is a fixed frequency, typically 50 Hz, with a varying duty cycle.

                            While you could possible hear via an audio amplifier with suitable frequency range it wouldn't tell you if the signal met the needs of your servo.

                            You can get a fairly nice combo multimeter and oscilloscope which would do the job for $100 off of Amazon. A useful tool for working on 3D printers.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @JRCL
                              last edited by

                              @jrcl said in Servo Configuration Check:

                              @phaedrux Tried without the ! and here is my wiring diagram and circled the pin on the duex to be safe. Still no dice.

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                              You've circled the PWM3 header, but the command you posted was for PWM2 M950 S1 C"!duex.pwm2"

                              Which is it?

                              Assuming it matches and it was just a typo, does the servo make any noise or get warm when you try and activate it?

                              Can you send M950 S1 by itself and report back the reply?

                              Can you try with some different PWM frequencies by adding a Q parameter to the M950 command?

                              M950 S1 C"!duex.pwm2" Q50 perhaps

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                              • alankilianundefined
                                alankilian @JRCL
                                last edited by

                                @jrcl

                                Can you post the manufacturer and part number for your 24-to-5 Volt converter?

                                SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                                • JRCLundefined
                                  JRCL @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @phaedrux Are they not grouped like this? I figured it was just a naming convention for the pin (E3_PWM) went with the PWM number (PWM2) and I saw this on the pin name table too and thought I still called C"duex.pwm2" though the control pin is called E3_PWM

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                                  • JRCLundefined
                                    JRCL @alankilian
                                    last edited by

                                    @alankilian Tobsun EA75-5V

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                                    • alankilianundefined
                                      alankilian @JRCL
                                      last edited by

                                      @jrcl

                                      I can't tell if that's isolated or not.

                                      If you've got everything else figured out, try connecting the two grounds together at the converter.

                                      SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @alankilian
                                        last edited by

                                        @alankilian said in Servo Configuration Check:

                                        @jrcl

                                        I can't tell if that's isolated or not.

                                        If you've got everything else figured out, try connecting the two grounds together at the converter.

                                        Without knowing how the unit is designed that might be unwise.

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • JRCLundefined
                                          JRCL @fcwilt
                                          last edited by

                                          @fcwilt Agreed, it's a buck converter if that makes any difference, but it does seem like that would allow the full power load to pass through the Duex and potentially fry the rail. Ordering the recommended MG995, from the servo wiki, to test against at least for now.

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @JRCL
                                            last edited by

                                            @jrcl said in Servo Configuration Check:

                                            @fcwilt Agreed, it's a buck converter if that makes any difference, but it does seem like that would allow the full power load to pass through the Duex and potentially fry the rail. Ordering the recommended MG995, from the servo wiki, to test against at least for now.

                                            It could be fine, it could be destructive - without word from the manufacturer you just don't know.

                                            Since it seems you have no test equipment even the lack of destruction would not insure it was actually working - it might just shutdown if wired incorrectly.

                                            I went ahead and ordered one. I should be able to determine if the output is isolated. If so you would need to connect the grounds together. I will let you know what I find.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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