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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957
      last edited by Dougal1957

      @tecno with a simple diagram can you show us the motor positions when looking down on the delta from above similar to

      Z
      

      X Y.

      Also post your full Config.g

      Doug

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      • tecnoundefined
        tecno @Dougal1957
        last edited by

        @dougal1957

        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue May 31 2022 17:03:35 GMT+0200 (centraleuropeisk sommartid)
        
        ; General preferences
        M575 P1 S0 B57600                             ; enable support for PanelDue
        G90                                           ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83                                           ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"BigDelta"                              ; set printer name
        M665 R300 L615 B275 H570                      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
        M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
        M669 S1 T1  								  ; kinematics linear delta
        M564 H0 S0									  ; allow axis movement not homed
        
        ; Wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start
        G4 S2
        
        ; Network
        M551 P"bengt"                                 ; set password
        M552 P192.168.1.124 S1                        ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
        M586 P0 S1                                    ; enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S1                                    ; enable FTP
        M586 P2 S1                                    ; enable Telnet
        
        ; Drives
        ;M569 P40.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
        ;M569 P41.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 122.0 goes forwards
        ;M569 P42.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 123.0 goes forwards
        ;M584 X40.0 Y41.0 Z42.0 E0.0                   ; set drive mapping
        M569 P0 S0
        M569 P1 S1
        M569 P2 S1
        M569 P3 S1                                 
        M584 X3 Y2 Z1 E0
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       			  ; configure microstepping with interpolation   X16 Y16 Z16
        M92 X40.00 Y40.00 Z40.00 E663.00              ; set steps per mm
        M566 X120.00 Y120.00 Z120.00 E1200.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X800.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 E1200.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1500 Y1500 Z1500 E800 I30               ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30                                       ; Set idle timeout
        
        
        ; Axis Limits
        M208 Z0 S1                                    ; set minimum Z
        
        ; Endstops
        M574 X2 S1 P"40.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
        M574 Y2 S1 P"41.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
        M574 Z2 S1 P"42.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in
        
        
        ; Z-Probe
        M558 P5 R0.4 C"io3.in+io4.out" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
        G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5                           ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
        M557 R85 S20                                  ; define mesh grid
        
        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
        M950 H0 C"out0" T0                            ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
        M307 H0 B1 S1.00                              ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0                                       ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S120                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
        M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
        M950 H1 C"out1" T1                            ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
        M307 H1 B0 S1.00                              ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
        M143 H1 S280                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
        
        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"out5" Q500                          ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H-1                                ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"out4" Q500                          ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                             ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
        
        ; Tools
        M563 P1 D0 H1 F0                              ; define tool 1
        G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                               ; set tool 1 axis offsets
        G10 P1 R0 S0                                  ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        
        ; Custom settings are not defined
        
        ; Miscellaneous
        ;M501                                          ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
        T1
        
        

        Z back
        X left front
        Y right front

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        • Dougal1957undefined
          Dougal1957 @tecno
          last edited by

          @tecno In that case I think your M584 is in the wrong sequence as George said above try

          M584 X1 Y2 Z3 E0 assuming that the motors are connected to X Y and Z ports in that order.

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @Dougal1957
            last edited by tecno

            @dougal1957

            Sorry but there is no reason to have X on port 1 !

            Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

            Will try to switch motor wires on one winding to see if it helps.

            //edit No it did not

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            • Dougal1957undefined
              Dougal1957 @tecno
              last edited by Dougal1957

              @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

              @dougal1957

              Sorry but there is no reason to have X on port 1 !

              Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

              Will try to switch motor wires on one winding to see if it helps.

              //edit No it did not

              Your config order of the M569 P1 to P3 suggests that the motors are connected to ports 1 2 and 3 in XYZ order tho
              Maybe reverse the order of them may solve your issue because your motors all move in the correct way when individually commanded it has to be a config issue!

              Argh sorry that order I don't think matters but I think it is still worth trying.

              Just looked up M584 and wonder if this maybe your issue.```
              631dbc7b-99e1-4ae9-b65e-dd74cbb94907-image.png

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              • oliofundefined
                oliof @tecno
                last edited by

                @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

                if you switch the configuration and the wiring at the same time, the problem will persist. Do one or the other.

                <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                • Dougal1957undefined
                  Dougal1957
                  last edited by

                  Also remember that in Delta kinematics all 3 axis have to move for any movement in the cartesian plane.

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                  • tecnoundefined
                    tecno @Dougal1957
                    last edited by

                    @dougal1957

                    I have tried all possibly settings

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                    • tecnoundefined
                      tecno @Dougal1957
                      last edited by tecno

                      @dougal1957

                      So M584 line has to be X0 Y1 Z2 and E4 or E5 or just E4 no x/y/z?

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @tecno
                        last edited by

                        I feel like fool now 😞

                        Been looking at the carriage motion not head motion = NOOB with Delta 😉

                        All appears to move as it should.

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                        • Dougal1957undefined
                          Dougal1957 @tecno
                          last edited by

                          @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                          @dougal1957

                          So M584 line has to be X0 Y1 Z2 and E4 or E5 or just E4 no x/y/z?

                          I am just about to go out but I will get you a copy of my Config.g

                          
                          ; General preferences
                          M575 P1 S1 B57600                                   ; enable support for PanelDue
                          G90                                                 ; send absolute coordinates...
                          M83                                                 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                          M550 P"Delta"                                       ; set printer name
                          M665 R239.403 L450.7 B175 H401                      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                          M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                       ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                          
                          ; Network
                          M552 S1                                             ; enable network
                          M586 P0 S1                                          ; enable HTTP
                          M586 P1 S1                                          ; enable FTP
                          M586 P2 S0                                          ; disable Telnet
                          
                          ; Drives
                          M569 P0 S1                                          ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                          M569 P1 S1                                          ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                          M569 P2 S1                                          ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                          M569 P3 S1                                          ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                    ; set drive mapping
                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                             ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                          M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z200.00 E2500.00                ; set steps per mm
                          M566 X54000.00 Y54000.00 Z54000.00 E2400.00         ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                          M203 X1080000.00 Y1080000.00 Z1080000.00 E144000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                          M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E120.00             ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                          M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E500 I30                     ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                          M84 S30                                             ; Set idle timeout
                          
                          ; Axis Limits
                          M208 Z0 S1                                          ; set minimum Z
                          
                          ; Endstops
                          M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
                          M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
                          M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop
                          
                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P5 R0.4 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0.1                                 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          M557 R85 S20                                        ; define mesh grid
                          
                          ; Heaters
                          M308 S0 P"spi.cs2" Y"rtd-max31865" F50
                          ;M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                               ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                          M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                          M140 H0                                             ; map heated bed to heater 0
                          M143 H0 S75                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 75C
                          M308 S1 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865" F50
                          ;M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138       ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                          M143 H1 S280                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                          
                          ; Fans
                          M950 F0 C"fan2" Q500                                ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                          M106 P0 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                                ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                   ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                          
                          ; Tools
                          M563 P0 D0 H1 F2                                    ; define tool 0
                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                     ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                          G10 P0 R0 S0                                        ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                          
                          ; Custom settings are not defined
                          
                          ; Miscellaneous
                          M501                                                ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                          T0                                                  ; select first tool
                          
                          
                          
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